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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 20:01:13 GMT
And also remarkable to see that This is Me, The Greatest Show and Rewrite the Stars have all become Top 30 hits on the Singles Chart!
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Post by anthony40 on Jan 15, 2018 21:17:32 GMT
And also remarkable to see that This is Me, The Greatest Show and Rewrite the Stars have all become Top 30 hits on the Singles Chart! It's interesting as when we saw the film, my sister who knew nothing about the film (other that Hugh Jackman being in it) or the Barnum story and actually said "These songs are so good they could be played on the radio". |
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Post by itsemily on Jan 18, 2018 10:09:12 GMT
Going to see this today - really looking forward to it!
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Post by itsemily on Jan 18, 2018 19:17:09 GMT
sorry for the double post, but wow this film is brilliant! I walked straight out the cinema and into HMV and bought the soundtrack!
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Post by robertb213 on Jan 18, 2018 19:23:23 GMT
6 of the songs are now in the UK Top 50, according to our Spotify playlist in the office this afternoon! Made a nice change from Ed Sheeran 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 17:23:40 GMT
Crazily 9 of the 11 songs have also charted in the Global Charts. Mental!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 17:28:48 GMT
I don't think it's as crazy or mental as it seems.
20 years ago for Moulin Rouge songs to chart would have been an achievement, but music sales are so low these days it takes a lot less for a song to chart. I'm sure I read fairly recently that it only takes sales of around 30k to hit number one. Granted it is still very positive that a 'musical' soundtrack is gaining so much traction.
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Post by theatreian on Jan 19, 2018 17:30:07 GMT
And the album is still number one in the official charts this week. It has its strongest sales week to date shifting 40,000 copies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 17:30:42 GMT
I don't think it's as crazy or mental as it seems. 20 years ago for Moulin Rouge songs to chart would have been an achievement, but music sales are so low these days it takes a lot less for a song to chart. I'm sure I read fairly recently that it only takes sales of around 30k to hit number one. Granted it is still very positive that a 'musical' soundtrack is gaining so much traction. Espeially consdering it actually got quite mixed reviews overall, its great to see audiences engage with a musical this much!  |
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Post by stageyninja83 on Jan 19, 2018 18:19:30 GMT
If anyone is interested, The Prince Charles Cinema in Leicester Square is having a singalong screening of the film on Saturday 27th January.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 18:27:25 GMT
Is it me or are some of the songs missing off the soundtrack. One I remember fro, the film is when all the performers were singing in the bar. It seems odd that they would not put all the songs on the album or maybe I'm just loosing it a bit.
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Post by viserys on Jan 19, 2018 21:49:13 GMT
I hate to be "that person" but I wasn't all that impressed with the movie or the music. The plot was uneven and ropey and the subplot with Jenny Lind cringeworthy bad. And why did they hire someone who can't sing and had to be dubbed for the part instead of some proper musical performer who had knocked that song out of the park?
The music, much like Dear Evan Hansen, sounded way overamplified and noisy when it could and should have been lovely and sweeping. The song that stuck in my mind was a "A Million... Dreams? Stars?" so much for being stuck in my mind, lol. I did like the staging of the duet between Zendaya and Beefcake, this should be a lovely moment when this inevitably hits the stage.
Much prefered La La Land to be honest.
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Post by cheesy116 on Jan 20, 2018 1:05:42 GMT
Is it me or are some of the songs missing off the soundtrack. One I remember fro, the film is when all the performers were singing in the bar. It seems odd that they would not put all the songs on the album or maybe I'm just loosing it a bit. The bar song is on the album on Spotify, I believe its 'From Now On' |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 10:59:37 GMT
I finally saw this Friday as well (because viserys and I somehow coordinate our cinema dates across continents). With my 'critical' hat on I share a few of the reservations- the Jenny Lind/kiss subplot was awful and redundant...it would have been enough to show Barnum's expensive gamble failing etc. on the reverse, I loved the Efron/Zandeya love story and wished that got more air time. Michelle Williams tragically didn't have enough to do but was her usual fabulous self with what she had. Musicals-wise, it had better musical content and was defiantly a 'musical' vs 'film with songs' (as I'd categorise La La Land) but I felt weirdly short-changed by some of the big numbers- they just felt a bit cut short? BUT that said the opening and closing, along with 'This is Me' were stunningly produced. All in all it's a slight but fun take on Barnum's story, and it did what it sets out to- the quote at the end about making people happy, I think fits- it certainly left me with a smile. On a personal note, I did feel oddly emotional- seeing Hugh Jackman in a musical was the reason I both fell in love with musicals, and (god help me) steered me on the career path I ended up on. So seeing Hugh doing what (IMO) Hugh does best, and knowing this was a labour of love of a film for him, got me oddly emotional. And damn if Mr J doesn't look fine in a top hat and tails. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 21, 2018 17:50:47 GMT
I hate to be "that person" but I wasn't all that impressed with the movie or the music. The plot was uneven and ropey and the subplot with Jenny Lind cringeworthy bad. And why did they hire someone who can't sing and had to be dubbed for the part instead of some proper musical performer who had knocked that song out of the park? Not just you. I thought the contemporary music and choreography (all that foot stomping and punching the air with one fist) looked completely wrong performed by people in Victorian dress. I’ve said before re Barnum that the plot is paper thin and it’s the same here. If I recall, in the musical he at least leaves the wife for Jenny Lind, we don’t even get that here. Zac Efron looking misty eyed every two minutes didn’t wash either (although the group of women behind appreciated it). The real opportunity, to give us some of the “freaks” back stories, was overlooked. That woman with the white hair was at the front in almost every scene and we didn’t even find out her name, she never spoke. Also General Tom Thumb, looked like a kid with a deep voice dubbed on. I shouldnt have gone. I hate Circus 😝 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 11:47:54 GMT
I hate to be "that person" but I wasn't all that impressed with the movie or the music. The plot was uneven and ropey and the subplot with Jenny Lind cringeworthy bad. And why did they hire someone who can't sing and had to be dubbed for the part instead of some proper musical performer who had knocked that song out of the park? The real opportunity, to give us some of the “freaks” back stories, was overlooked. That woman with the white hair was at the front in almost every scene and we didn’t even find out her name, she never spoke. Also General Tom Thumb, looked like a kid with a deep voice dubbed on. 100% agree I'd much rather have heard about those characters than Barnum's fairly dull family...but I got told off for saying something similar over on the Follies thread so HOW VERY DARE YOU BURLY THAT IS NOT THE FILM AUTHOR IS GOD etc etc
*please see my earlier post today on sarcasm, before anyone gets their arse in hand 
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:04:32 GMT
Pasek and Paul recieve their third Oscar nomination for "This is Me". |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 18:45:21 GMT
The soundtrack to this has been nicely keeping me company all day. Though I also can't get 'The Greatest Show' out of my head.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 19:39:58 GMT
It's so exciting to see Keale Seattle now in the Top 10 (at #8) as of today! Yes for the Broadway realness! |
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Post by groupbooker on Jan 31, 2018 23:47:17 GMT
Broadway World - 20th Century Fox looking at a "possible" Broadway show! I just felt first time I saw Frozen "that's going to be a musical" the way it was written and same goes for this now - could well be? Have LED screens behind for bigger circus scenes? Who knows.
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Post by The Lost on Jan 31, 2018 23:52:30 GMT
I've read a couple of articles recently that have said that this movie has broken a number of records, in that despite having been playing for several weeks, the weekly gross doesn't seem to be decreasing. I think I actually heard that it took more money in its SIXTH weekend than it did in its first and although hasn't made anywhere near as much as them, has that Titanic/Avatar appeal as people are going to see it just as much as the weeks go by, instead of there being a consistent reduction in takings week on week.
My question of course is, why? Why is this staggeringly mediocre piece of historical inaccuracy and shallowness doing so well? The most accurate adjective I can think to describe this film is "average". Its songs all make the same vapid point about self-identity and breaking free that we've seen done to death in every musical franchise since the dawn of time, its plot is neither adventurous nor remotely accurate for what's meant to be a biopic of P.T Barnum's life. I honestly don't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 9:04:07 GMT
Broadway World - 20th Century Fox looking at a "possible" Broadway show! I just felt first time I saw Frozen "that's going to be a musical" the way it was written and same goes for this now - could well be? Have LED screens behind for bigger circus scenes? Who knows. Urgh no. With the exception of the Phantom 25th at the Royal Albert Hall, I think the use of LED Screens as set devices are a real cop out. The recent tour of elf, for example, used a massive video wall for most of the setand resulted in a really two dimensional, flat effect. Phantom worked as an exception because not only were they really restricted on depth and backstage space, but it took a very intelligent approach breaking them up as individual pieces, layered with projection. The size of the entire image filling almost floor to ceiling of the Royal Albert Hall just emphasised the spectacle. Using flat walls of video as a backdrop is ugly, in my mind. Slight diversion from the original point in case. I think TGS was definitely written with a transfer to stage in mind and its probably a race now to see which lands first, Showman or La La Land. Case in point:  |
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Post by kathryn on Feb 1, 2018 9:13:26 GMT
My question of course is, why? Why is this staggeringly mediocre piece of historical inaccuracy and shallowness doing so well? The most accurate adjective I can think to describe this film is "average". Its songs all make the same vapid point about self-identity and breaking free that we've seen done to death in every musical franchise since the dawn of time, its plot is neither adventurous nor remotely accurate for what's meant to be a biopic of P.T Barnum's life. I honestly don't get it. People pay for their cinema tickets before they see the film! I'm sure it's not very good, but it does look like a fun trip to the cinema, not too demanding, not depressing, at a time when cinemas are swamped with awards-bait dramas about Serious Issues. And it's January, after all, so lots of people want cheering up. They really should be seeing Paddington 2 instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 9:53:27 GMT
My question of course is, why? Why is this staggeringly mediocre piece of historical inaccuracy and shallowness doing so well? The most accurate adjective I can think to describe this film is "average". Its songs all make the same vapid point about self-identity and breaking free that we've seen done to death in every musical franchise since the dawn of time, its plot is neither adventurous nor remotely accurate for what's meant to be a biopic of P.T Barnum's life. I honestly don't get it. People pay for their cinema tickets before they see the film! I'm sure it's not very good, but it does look like a fun trip to the cinema, not too demanding, not depressing, at a time when cinemas are swamped with awards-bait dramas about Serious Issues. And it's January, after all, so lots of people want cheering up. They really should be seeing Paddington 2 instead. Exactly! Funny enough I haven't seen the film before I um...see the film? And having seen Paddington 2 (and it departed our cinemas) And honestly, in the depths of January I'd still have watched the admittedly deep as a puddle, but actually fun enough to pass a couple of hours TGS than sit through 3 hours of Oscar Bait 'issue cinema' (there's a time and place for that but a grey Friday in January for me is not it). Same with theatre while we're at it. I have no earthly desire to see Mama Mia in a theatre, but I fully respect people who when looking for a fun night out want to see that rather than The Birthday Party |
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Post by viserys on Feb 1, 2018 9:57:48 GMT
Slight diversion from the original point in case. I think TGS was definitely written with a transfer to stage in mind and its probably a race now to see which lands first, Showman or La La Land. I honestly think that these things are ALWAYS written with a transfer to stage in mind these days, whether it's Disney's animated movies or this new slew of movie musicals with "real people". The Mamma Mia Sequel will turn up on stage sooner or later too, I'm sure. As for WHY this is so successful - I felt it was average at most myself, but I would agree with Kathryn that people are looking for something cheerful and uplifting in these glum winter days when the real world out there is increasingly depressing. I would also assume that the average cinema-goer isn't as experienced in the done-to-death theatrical tropes of "self-identity and breaking-free" as we are. |
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