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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 23:22:05 GMT
This clip has just been on BBC News You have to question The need for people to incessantly Film
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Post by zak97 on Jun 3, 2017 23:23:26 GMT
This clip has just been on BBC News Terrifying to watch. Even inside what should be safe spaces people are in danger. Normally a safe area.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 23:23:27 GMT
I think it should be pointed out that official sources say that knives, not guns were involved and thus the suggestion that any shots are coming from the police.
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Post by Dan213 on Jun 3, 2017 23:29:15 GMT
You have to question The need for people to incessantly Film You see a lot of videos on Twitter etc of people getting right up to armed police etc and filming them. Why can't they just let them do their job...
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Post by zak97 on Jun 3, 2017 23:33:48 GMT
I hope everyone on the streets has found somewhere to stay. I'd hate to be a tourist at the moment, not knowing where to go would be one of the most traumatic experiences possible.
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Post by thebearofwestend on Jun 3, 2017 23:38:23 GMT
so sorry
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 3, 2017 23:41:58 GMT
PM treating the incident as a 'potential act of terrorism'.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 3, 2017 23:44:04 GMT
PM treating the incident as a 'potential act of terrorism'. She is right to be cautious in her language until the fuller picture is confirmed by the authorities. It is far better to wait given the confused reports that are emerging.
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 3, 2017 23:45:59 GMT
And on the night before/early hours of the morning of the Manchester Concert, too. Maybe it was too soon? Who is to ever say.
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Post by zak97 on Jun 3, 2017 23:49:29 GMT
And on the night before/early hours of the morning of the Manchester Concert, too. Maybe it was too soon? Who is to ever say. Whether the attacks are related or not, I can't help but feel this attack was designed to provoke new fear in the capital, but exacerbate the fear in Manchester to, possibly to scare people from going to the concert due to the risk of another attack.
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 3, 2017 23:52:59 GMT
London Bridge & Borough Market are terrorist attacks. Vauxhall stabbing unrelated.
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Post by joem on Jun 4, 2017 0:02:38 GMT
Things will get much worse before they get any better.
Unless there is a willingness to confront the issue head on, without caveats and euphemisms, you can expect much more than this.
Terrorism is only defeated by being more ruthless than the terrorists, and our flabby post-Summer of Love liberal societies are simply not prepared to countenance this yet. We instinctively search for compromise and negotiation even where none is possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 0:07:04 GMT
London Bridge & Borough Market are terrorist attacks. Vauxhall stabbing unrelated. Which effectively confirms what we were all thinking
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Post by vabbian on Jun 4, 2017 0:20:01 GMT
I work at the Shard. Was meant to finish at 11pm Fire alarm went off at 10 30, Saw some boys running we thought they had set off the alarm for a laugh
My colleague checked his Twitter 10 minutes later and found out about the incident We evacuated immediately It was very scary walking through the streets Tons of sirens and helicopter above
Meant to be working tomorrow but I feel too shaken Mood on the tube home was very mellow Couldn't stop crying when I saw my mum
Safely home now
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Post by d'James on Jun 4, 2017 0:36:50 GMT
I work at the Shard. Was meant to finish at 11pm Fire alarm went off at 10 30, Saw some boys running we thought they had set off the alarm for a laugh My colleague checked his Twitter 10 minutes later and found out about the incident We evacuated immediately It was very scary walking through the streets Tons of sirens and helicopter above Meant to be working tomorrow but I feel too shaken Mood on the tube home was very mellow Couldn't stop crying when I saw my mum Safely home now Hugs. Glad you're safe.
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 4, 2017 0:36:52 GMT
It sounds glib to say "Stay safe, Londoners", but I can't think of how better to state what I mean.
So stay safe, yell, scream, cry, feel whatever you are feeling. I wish you didn't have to go through this. Terrorism is sudden and shocking and terrifying.
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Post by tr252 on Jun 4, 2017 1:52:50 GMT
Didn't know of anything until I started getting texts through asking if I'm ok. Been out in Islington and now home safe.
Please stay vigilant and of course safe anybody else who is out and about tonight.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jun 4, 2017 2:22:54 GMT
I work at the Shard. Was meant to finish at 11pm Fire alarm went off at 10 30, Saw some boys running we thought they had set off the alarm for a laugh My colleague checked his Twitter 10 minutes later and found out about the incident We evacuated immediately It was very scary walking through the streets Tons of sirens and helicopter above Meant to be working tomorrow but I feel too shaken Mood on the tube home was very mellow Couldn't stop crying when I saw my mum Safely home now That must have been terrifying for you. So glad you are safe home. Sending love and hugs.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jun 4, 2017 2:25:39 GMT
Anyone watching Lettice and Lovage at the Menier Chocolate Factory tonight must have been affected tonight getting out and home at around 10.30pm.
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Post by viserys on Jun 4, 2017 5:47:17 GMT
Just woke up to the terrible news. Yesterday evening a friend of mine presently in London had posted a short video of her walking through Borough Market on FB, so my first thought was for her (she was safe). I am shocked and saddened, but not frightened to visit London in ten days. I have no smart suggestions on what to do or any other smart words to share here, on Twitter, FB or elsewhere. I don't know how to reach all these deluded people who fall for the attraction of terrorism as there are too many and there's no way to ever please everyone in the world. I take comfort in knowing that our police services and secret services do a great job and have probably prevented many many attacks in the last years. Stay safe everyone and don't let the terrorists get into your heads, if you can.
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Post by stefy69 on Jun 4, 2017 6:22:37 GMT
Oh gosh, just around the corner from my office.
Stay save everyone and catty on for once I agree with Mr Trump : I from now on I will call them Losers.
Love to all here x
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Post by isabel on Jun 4, 2017 7:29:47 GMT
I'm heading back to London in a few hours ( now live in London ) time, I'm not scared
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Post by tmesis on Jun 4, 2017 7:38:36 GMT
I work at the Shard. Was meant to finish at 11pm Fire alarm went off at 10 30, Saw some boys running we thought they had set off the alarm for a laugh My colleague checked his Twitter 10 minutes later and found out about the incident We evacuated immediately It was very scary walking through the streets Tons of sirens and helicopter above Meant to be working tomorrow but I feel too shaken Mood on the tube home was very mellow Couldn't stop crying when I saw my mum Safely home now Really glad you're safe. I was walking over Waterloo Bridge at 10.30 pm to get to Waterloo Station after L'elisir d'amore at ROH. Couldn't understand the massive number of police cars below hurtling towards London Bridge. Thinking about you...much love.
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Post by Dave25 on Jun 4, 2017 8:03:48 GMT
Let's sing a happy song together! And organise a meeting with flowers next week saying: ""We will not let them harm our mood". That will teach them.
Seriously. Why are classes in all schools of the country not immediately adjusted? Most of these terrorists live and work in the UK, USA, etc. They were never exposed to critical thinking or other religions. Why do we keep on insisting creating world alienated people? Why do we allow that? Why are so many people never exposed to anything else, even in this society? Why the hell is it taking so long for the government to do anything about that? The seeds are planted when they are very young. Schools should take responsibility. It's the indoctrination of religion that is the real perpetrator.
We are in a war of ideas and beliefs. We need to promote atheism, secularism, critical thinking, wide education and criticise introctrination and intellectual abuse of children.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 8:13:34 GMT
In recent years school staff have been trained in PREVENT, knowing how to recognise radicalisation on young children. It is as frequently delivered as safeguarding/child protection training but in a dedicated sector of its own. Yes schools could do more in informing the children themselves but i hardly think they are to blame for this behaviour, if a child is vulnerable to manipulation (for many reasons) then there's very little a teacher can do to convince them otherwise.
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