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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 0:12:24 GMT
10 of the 23 deaths are under 18 years old.
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Post by infofreako on May 23, 2017 0:13:02 GMT
Come on people. This is an awful night. Let's not fight on here Just a general comment by the way. I completely respect your general comment lovely, I just don't like it when strangers try to come for me on here. (not you, obviously)  Fair enough. Just don't feel its the time. We're all good people. This is an evocative emotional situation and its so easy to comment on an emotional level which never comes across well |
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Post by infofreako on May 23, 2017 0:13:42 GMT
19 confirmed dead according to BBC
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Post by isabel on May 23, 2017 0:14:05 GMT
This is really really upsetting - those poor poor children / teenagers
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 0:14:16 GMT
I completely respect your general comment lovely, I just don't like it when strangers try to come for me on here. (not you, obviously) Fair enough. Just don't feel its the time. We're all good people. This is an evocative emotional situation and its so easy to comment on an emotional level which never comes across well I completely agree with everything you have just said.  |
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Post by theatremadness on May 23, 2017 0:15:41 GMT
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Post by d'James on May 23, 2017 0:33:14 GMT
Important info. for anyone in Manchester:
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Post by infofreako on May 23, 2017 0:33:36 GMT
Controlled explosion carried out near the arena
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Post by daniel on May 23, 2017 0:35:53 GMT
Important info. for anyone in Manchester: BBC reporting that this was a second suspicious device which thankfully didn't go off. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 0:38:40 GMT
It would be useful if people posted only official news sources, rather than twitter rumours/amateur news sites. Fake news is bad enough without people treating all sources as equal.
Knowing the place, it seems like it was in public area just outside the venue timed for the end of the concert, but which had overrun slightly. This would be a concert which was going to have a high proportion of young women and gay men and that is likely to be one possible area of enquiry as to motive,
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Post by theatremadness on May 23, 2017 0:38:52 GMT
That controlled explosion went off whilst a guy was reporting live from Manchester on BBC News. Pretty frightening to watch/hear, and people in the surrounding areas were rather scared, but thankfully the word of a controlled explosion had spread quick enough just before it happened.
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Post by d'James on May 23, 2017 0:40:31 GMT
It would be useful if people posted only official news sources, rather than twitter rumours/amateur news sites. Fake news is bad enough without people treating all sources as equal. The thing is, Greater Manchester Police are using Twitter to get information out. This means Twitter links are inevitable. |
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Post by infofreako on May 23, 2017 0:41:36 GMT
It would be useful if people posted only official news sources, rather than twitter rumours/amateur news sites. Fake news is bad enough without people treating all sources as equal. Knowing the place, it seems like it was in public area just outside the venue timed for the end of the concert, but which had overrun slightly. This would be a concert which was going to have a high proportion of young women and gay men and that is likely to be one possible area of enquiry as to motive, I was reporting from what was happening on BBC news or is the BBC not official enough? |
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Post by theatremadness on May 23, 2017 0:45:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 0:46:50 GMT
BBC and GMP are official, look back and you can see some unverifiable sources though.
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Post by d'James on May 23, 2017 0:48:28 GMT
Interesting. They must've had some suspicions. Better to be safe than sorry, I guess. |
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Post by infofreako on May 23, 2017 0:49:26 GMT
So sad tonight. Attacking kids seems a whole new level to me. Must have been absolutely terrifying and for those at the hotel waiting to be reunited with guardians I can't grasp what the emotional impact on them will be of things they've seen tonight
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Post by Phantom of London on May 23, 2017 0:56:51 GMT
Hearing on Sky News, coming out on US networks that this was a suicide bomber, this has been uncolabrated though by British sources.
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Post by infofreako on May 23, 2017 0:58:56 GMT
Hearing on Sky News, coming out on US networks that this was a suicide bomber, this has been uncolabrated though by British sources. BBC news reporting the same angle |
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Post by d'James on May 23, 2017 1:09:46 GMT
I hope it will.
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Post by d'James on May 23, 2017 1:33:02 GMT
The latest tweet from Greater Manchester Police:
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Post by infofreako on May 23, 2017 1:47:44 GMT
The Independent are reporting that all election campaigning is suspended
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Post by d'James on May 23, 2017 1:50:15 GMT
The Independent are reporting that all election campaigning is suspended Yes I saw that. Some politicians, who shall not be named, will use it for sickening point scoring in the meantime, though. |
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Post by d'James on May 23, 2017 2:23:33 GMT
The latest information from Greater Manchester Police:
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 23, 2017 3:04:48 GMT
I can fully understand why Phantom has reacted as strongly as he has. I wish it was as easy as saying enough is enough but the solution to Islamist terrorism does not lie with us or any action we can take. Changing a culture of hatred, violence and blinkered thinking is something we cannot enforce.
We do have to stop tolerating any apologists for this sort of mentality. Evil has to be called out for what it is.
If this incident is proven to be a suicide bomber, it is the sort of attack that is nigh-on impossible to prevent. That is the reality of the situation. Someone walking up to a concert venue and waiting for people to start leaving before detonating is very hard to intercept unless you get some very, very good intelligence early enough.
I really wish there was a solution but I just cannot see one.
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