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Post by showbizkid on Jun 11, 2017 23:18:45 GMT
Or accents I mean!
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Post by d'James on Jun 11, 2017 23:21:35 GMT
After all the films it'd be odd to hear Harry, Ron and Hermione with American accents. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 23:23:05 GMT
After all the films it'd be odd to hear Harry, Ron and Hermione with American accents. Never mind that it's set in the UK! |
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Post by d'James on Jun 11, 2017 23:24:17 GMT
After all the films it'd be odd to hear Harry, Ron and Hermione with American accents. Never mind that it's set in the UK! Very true. |
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Post by QueerTheatre on Jun 13, 2017 12:52:56 GMT
I have it on good authority that the leads are all going to New York with this (or are at least currently in negotiations)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 13:01:18 GMT
I have it on good authority that the leads are all going to New York with this (or are at least currently in negotiations) If it does happen it won't be surprising, and might mean I need to book a ticket for early in the Broadway run seeing as I failed to catch the original cast here! |
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Post by vickster51 on Jun 13, 2017 20:32:36 GMT
I have it on good authority that the leads are all going to New York with this (or are at least currently in negotiations) Oh no, as a huge Jamie Parker fan for years, that will mean I'll have to try and see it in NYC too! Plus Anthony Boyle is superb in the Scorpius role! |
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Post by showbizkid on Jul 4, 2017 9:18:13 GMT
Anthony is just amazing - it would do him very well to go to Broadway with this. He will be picked up and have a massive career ahead of him (not that he doesn't already!) fingers crossed....
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Post by dillan on Aug 2, 2017 15:10:56 GMT
All 7 are back!!
Tickets go on sale in October.
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Post by d'James on Aug 2, 2017 17:41:06 GMT
Oh that's good. I liked them all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 14:27:16 GMT
I was taken aback by the ticketing system they are going to use for this. Not only do you have to pre-register (as you did in London, originally) BUT from all those pre-registrations, they will select RANDOM people who will be given the codes they need to try and book. AND they don't guarantee even those given codes will be able to buy tickets. Sorry, but I think that sucks. For sure, screen out scalpers and multiple entries, and maybe even limit pre-registration codes to the first million to register, but to randomise access twice over seems extreme and unlikely to beat professionals who will probably use software to generate a million addresses, of which many will get lucky. Ugh that sounds horrendous! I was going to attempt to book but if it's going to be that complicated I might just leave it and chance the lottery/cancellation line instead! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:21:52 GMT
That's bloody awful! (insert Ron Weasley voice)
I think limiting initial registrations or something would be fine but that's vile. I'll just see it in London again I think...
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Post by showbizkid on Aug 14, 2017 5:42:07 GMT
I think it's annoying but also great, because it means that a young girl logging on with one computer in Chicago for example has the same chance as a computer whizz kid (or rip off merchant) who has cheekily generated 100 devices in Denver. Annoying but fair.
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Post by viserys on Aug 14, 2017 11:30:03 GMT
Showbizkid's logic assumes that the pre-registration processs means they would weed out the computer whiz kids (and scalpers) who generated 1000 addresses, so that whiz kid and young girl in Chicago each have ONE shot at a code. But how the could do that, if they can't even keep the bots away from Hamilton etc. is beyond me.
Isn't the double step exactly what happened with the Hiddlehamlet at RADA now though? People had to register and then lucky ones were chosen who were allowed to book?
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Post by kathryn on Aug 14, 2017 20:48:00 GMT
I was taken aback by the ticketing system they are going to use for this. Not only do you have to pre-register (as you did in London, originally) BUT from all those pre-registrations, they will select RANDOM people who will be given the codes they need to try and book. AND they don't guarantee even those given codes will be able to buy tickets. Sorry, but I think that sucks. For sure, screen out scalpers and multiple entries, and maybe even limit pre-registration codes to the first million to register, but to randomise access twice over seems extreme and unlikely to beat professionals who will probably use software to generate a million addresses, of which many will get lucky. There seems to be a perceived wisdom that anything 'random' is 'fair'. It ignores the fact that a random system is just as likely to select a scalper as a genuine fan, and more likely once the scalpers work out how to skew the odds in their favour. |
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Post by Kenneth_C on Aug 15, 2017 2:27:05 GMT
I was taken aback by the ticketing system they are going to use for this. Not only do you have to pre-register (as you did in London, originally) BUT from all those pre-registrations, they will select RANDOM people who will be given the codes they need to try and book. AND they don't guarantee even those given codes will be able to buy tickets. Sorry, but I think that sucks. For sure, screen out scalpers and multiple entries, and maybe even limit pre-registration codes to the first million to register, but to randomise access twice over seems extreme and unlikely to beat professionals who will probably use software to generate a million addresses, of which many will get lucky. There seems to be a perceived wisdom that anything 'random' is 'fair'. It ignores the fact that a random system is just as likely to select a scalper as a genuine fan, and more likely once the scalpers work out how to skew the odds in their favour. This is not just a "random" system. The key element is the pre-sale verification phase. Think of it like a background check. Ticketmaster says it will run its metrics against those accounts that pre-register for access to tickets. Without saying exactly what said metrics are, I expect they will be things like past ticket-buying history, secondary market sales (using TM's in-house resale system) and possibly even attendance. (A few rock bands have added "verification" components like buying their albums through specific links or sharing posts on social media, but that is unlikely to be a factor in the case of HP.) Only after an account has been "verified" will the random codes, internet waiting rooms, whatever, come into play. The idea is that, not only will there not be an advantage for the computer whiz kid with 1000 email addresses, they shouldn't even make it into the "verified" pool to begin with. Or certainly not in the numbers they have heretofore. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 7:22:26 GMT
That's it really. If you have a robust verification system, then random allocation is fair. People will always come up with ways to game the system (I've used a few low key methods myself, like queuing in multiple browsers, or working out the link directly to the seating plan stage of the booking process rather than going from the "about this play" page like you're probably supposed to, and I know I've felt frustration when confronted with a system where I cannot give myself this little head-start), but if you are able to verify that every individual granted permission to book is indeed an individual (and I appreciate that that can be a big IF) then randomisation is pretty equitable. More equitable, at least, than leaving it as a free-for-all and having the regular bookers beating the newbies purely because we have our little tips and tricks and they don't.
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Post by kathryn on Aug 15, 2017 7:30:30 GMT
There seems to be a perceived wisdom that anything 'random' is 'fair'. It ignores the fact that a random system is just as likely to select a scalper as a genuine fan, and more likely once the scalpers work out how to skew the odds in their favour. This is not just a "random" system. The key element is the pre-sale verification phase. Think of it like a background check. Ticketmaster says it will run its metrics against those accounts that pre-register for access to tickets. Without saying exactly what said metrics are, I expect they will be things like past ticket-buying history, secondary market sales (using TM's in-house resale system) and possibly even attendance. (A few rock bands have added "verification" components like buying their albums through specific links or sharing posts on social media, but that is unlikely to be a factor in the case of HP.) Only after an account has been "verified" will the random codes, internet waiting rooms, whatever, come into play. The idea is that, not only will there not be an advantage for the computer whiz kid with 1000 email addresses, they shouldn't even make it into the "verified" pool to begin with. Or certainly not in the numbers they have heretofore. And how do they distinguish between a brand-new account and one that has been created for an invented person? Or will anyone who has never booked through Ticketmaster before simply not get a ticket? |
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Post by kathryn on Aug 15, 2017 9:34:50 GMT
This is not just a "random" system. The key element is the pre-sale verification phase. Think of it like a background check. The page gave the impression, though, that even if there is a security check to pass, it doesn't mean you will even get a code to let you compete to get a ticket. I'm all for verification, though, if that is the system. Only problem is what if, like me, you don't use Ticketmaster that much - I have a massive record of purchases with many other outlets, for example, but not particularly that one. Verification is only good if it genuinely sorts the touts from people who genuinely want to see the show. Very difficult to do that, as innocent people will be caught up in it, and the touts can easily hire people to enter the ballot system for them. A better way of doing that would be simply make re-selling tickets for more than face value illegal. But Ticketmaster would never allow that as it'll hit their profits. |
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Post by viserys on Aug 15, 2017 10:29:30 GMT
I'm all for verification, though, if that is the system. Only problem is what if, like me, you don't use Ticketmaster that much - I have a massive record of purchases with many other outlets, for example, but not particularly that one. It may be different if your main place is New York though as virtually all big Broadway musicals sell either through Ticketmaster or Telecharge. I rarely ever use Ticketmaster in the UK, but have used them several times in the USA out of necessity. This whole background check thing sounds so elaborate though that I wonder how they will manage with hundred of thousands of applications. And it would put countless families at a disadvantage who rarely go to big shows because they may live far away from NYC and/or can't afford the prices, but are huge Harry Potter fans and make the effort for this show. I fully agree with Kathryn - reselling and voiding resold tickets like Harry Potter and Hamilton do in London would be the best and fairest solution. |
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Post by Kenneth_C on Aug 15, 2017 15:44:31 GMT
This is not just a "random" system. The key element is the pre-sale verification phase. Think of it like a background check. The page gave the impression, though, that even if there is a security check to pass, it doesn't mean you will even get a code to let you compete to get a ticket. Right, because of demand. I've been looking into this Verified Fan thing since Springsteen will be using the system for his Broadway shows. Currently, he is scheduled to play 5 shows a week for 8 weeks in a theatre that holds ~960 seats. That means his total run could accommodate about 38,000 fans. He sells that many tickets to stadium shows in a few minutes. Now, how many people might register to be verified? Tens of thousands more, I would bet. Should they send out codes to 200,000 people for 40,000 tickets? Perhaps they should, but that is a distinct matter from the "Verified Fan" system. As I said above, we really have to think of this whole "Verified Fan" thing as a background check. It is not, from my understanding, really anything more than that. Being "verified" is only Step One; there may be other gates to hurdle before being able to get a ticket. Verified Fan + Code Lotteries. Verified Fan + Internet Waiting Rooms. Verified Fan + Credit Card Entry. Verified Fan + All of the Above. Springsteen's system might end up having a different component than Harry Potter's which might have a different component than Hamilton's ( which was just announced this morning) -- but they will all share the Ticketmaster Verified Fan/background check metrics. We don't know what those are, and I doubt that we ever will. Yes, they may discriminate against people who have never bought a ticket before. They may make it more difficult for overseas buyers. We don't know. But something has to be done. It's going to be next-to-impossible to get tickets to see the Boss anyway, but I'd rather have a fighting chance against real people than against bots and whiz kids and scalpers. |
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Post by showbizkid on Aug 20, 2017 7:15:27 GMT
How much are tickets - anyone know yet?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 7:02:20 GMT
Is it really that good of a play?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 0:15:30 GMT
I just think this broadway seasons is like an odd badly built theme park by Mr Trash
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Post by musicalmarge on Oct 23, 2017 1:41:26 GMT
Is it really that good of a play? Yes. It is amazing beyond words! |
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