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Post by Latecomer on May 21, 2017 7:46:58 GMT
I hope you are all signed up. To any young person who does not intend to vote I would say VOTE! If you do not vote you give political parties a "get out of jail free" card. Why would they make policies that appeal to the young if the young do not vote?! Make yourselves important! There is the (very true) argument of people died to give us the right to vote but in the there here and now don't give them the excuse to ignore you! Be heard! Please talk to friends family and get everyone to make their voices heard!
There, I'm done!
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Post by infofreako on May 21, 2017 8:14:40 GMT
Seconded. My daughter can't really be bothered but I've organised a postal vote for her so once she gets the card she can just get it done
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 8:40:22 GMT
Seconded. My daughter can't really be bothered but I've organised a postal vote for her so once she gets the card she can just get it done What if she ends up voting UKIP? Would u wish u hadn't bothered? |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 21, 2017 9:01:14 GMT
Seconded. My daughter can't really be bothered but I've organised a postal vote for her so once she gets the card she can just get it done What if she ends up voting UKIP? Would u wish u hadn't bothered? That's democracy. Stupid people get to vote |
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Post by hulmeman on May 21, 2017 9:04:25 GMT
Seconded. My daughter can't really be bothered but I've organised a postal vote for her so once she gets the card she can just get it done What if she ends up voting UKIP? Would u wish u hadn't bothered? Ah! a real chicken and egg situation! At the EU referendum, I encouraged my other half to get out and vote, but when he said if he did vote, he would vote to leave the EU, I shut me trap. I can't help thinking he said it just to shut me up though!! For what it's worth, I reckon it's best to get the first time voters just to vote and maybe engage them in the process. They can change their mind in subsequent elections. However, if I had a child that wanted to vote UKIP I think I'd have to take them to the big house up the hill to see some men in white coats (they're always men aren't they!!) |
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Post by infofreako on May 21, 2017 9:17:54 GMT
Seconded. My daughter can't really be bothered but I've organised a postal vote for her so once she gets the card she can just get it done What if she ends up voting UKIP? Would u wish u hadn't bothered? We come under Kemp town. She's much more likely to vote doktor haze from the circus of horrors. I'm fine with that scenario |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 9:24:54 GMT
What if she ends up voting UKIP? Would u wish u hadn't bothered? We come under Kemp town. She's much more likely to vote doktor haze from the circus of horrors. I'm fine with that scenario I live London Road! We r practically sisters! Il be voting my main woman Lucas! |
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Post by wickedgrin on May 21, 2017 9:50:58 GMT
Everyone should vote - it should be mandatory!
In the last election 2.4m voted Lib Dem, 3.9m voted UKIP, 9.3m voted Labour, 11.3 million voted Conservative and 15.7 MILLION DID NOT VOTE! These none voters could make all the difference! It is no good complaining that the government of the day is elected on (say) £30% of the voting populace if you did not vote!
Especially (I am going to be controversial here - I will have to run for cover) women should ALL vote as women fought for the right to vote in this country. I can imagine that the very women who do not vote would be marching the streets for their right to vote if they still could not!
VOTE VOTE VOTE!
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 9:58:44 GMT
The right to vote is equal. That doesn't mean that everyone should be forced to exercise their right.
The effect of each vote is certainly not equal. Most people's votes make no difference to the outcome.
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 21, 2017 10:05:41 GMT
Even though I always vote, is I feel voting should be a persons own choice. But PR should be in place, so every vote counts
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 10:16:12 GMT
But PR should be in place, so every vote counts In the 2011 referendum, the UK electorate voted to continue to use the "first past the post" system. We have PR in the Welsh Assembly elections. It has given us Neil Hamilton as the leading UKIP Assembly Member. |
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Post by Flim Flam on May 21, 2017 10:45:19 GMT
As a woman, I always vote, and always think of our British Suffragettes when I do so.
Recently stumbled across a very interesting two-part documentary on Youtube, about the fight for the women's vote in America. Totally different dynamic to the British movement, but an equally fascinating story. What amazing women.
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Post by Phantom of London on May 21, 2017 10:57:12 GMT
Even if you are in a constituency with a big majority, your vote does count, as it does cut that majority and if you had a number of like minded people then just maybe......
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Post by Latecomer on May 21, 2017 11:08:34 GMT
I live in 12th safest Tory seat and even if all the "non-Tories" got together and voted the same way they would still win....but I shall be voting as after the election they will be spouting figures about % of vote gained by each party in the whole country....so if I can show that I support a party, even in this minor way that will not change my MP, then I will!
You will note that UKIP never won many MPs but their share of the vote changed the way politics in this country woks. The Occupy London movement changed the way we feel about companies paying tax in the UK. You don't have to win an election to change politics (although it's obviously easier!)
I traditionally didn't talk much about politics in my family (it's an awkward British thing, like talking about how much money you earn!) but it's time we all stood up and cared a bit more!
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Post by profquatermass on May 21, 2017 11:54:33 GMT
But PR should be in place, so every vote counts In the 2011 referendum, the UK electorate voted to continue to use the "first past the post" system. We have PR in the Welsh Assembly elections. It has given us Neil Hamilton as the leading UKIP Assembly Member. The referendum didn't offer PR as a choice though. Who knows what the result would have been if it had been an option? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 21, 2017 12:01:12 GMT
Yes it was the system where you put your choices in order of preference and one by one the candidates with the lowest numbers get knocked out. Much more exciting! It was a lib dem initiative, quelle surprise, and I think the reason it didn't get chosen is because it was only the lib dems who were really pushing it. Conservatives and Labour are quietly very happy with the current system, despite moaning about it when the lose.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 12:25:54 GMT
...but I shall be voting as after the election they will be spouting figures about % of vote gained by each party in the whole country....so if I can show that I support a party, even in this minor way that will not change my MP, then I will! Yes, and people who aren't interested and are happy not to participate in elections should be free to show this by not voting. I know that some people prefer to show it by spoiling their ballot paper. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 21, 2017 12:39:13 GMT
...but I shall be voting as after the election they will be spouting figures about % of vote gained by each party in the whole country....so if I can show that I support a party, even in this minor way that will not change my MP, then I will! Yes, and people who aren't interested and are happy not to participate in elections should be free to show this by not voting. I know that some people prefer to show it by spoiling their ballot paper. As long as they accept that their opinions about the outcome are worth nothing. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 21, 2017 12:57:06 GMT
Everyone should vote - it should be mandatory! In the last election 2.4m voted Lib Dem, 3.9m voted UKIP, 9.3m voted Labour, 11.3 million voted Conservative and 15.7 MILLION DID NOT VOTE! These none voters could make all the difference! It is no good complaining that the government of the day is elected on (say) £30% of the voting populace if you did not vote! Especially (I am going to be controversial here - I will have to run for cover) women should ALL vote as women fought for the right to vote in this country. I can imagine that the very women who do not vote would be marching the streets for their right to vote if they still could not! VOTE VOTE VOTE! Did men never fight for the right to vote? |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 21, 2017 13:01:46 GMT
Yes, and people who aren't interested and are happy not to participate in elections should be free to show this by not voting. I know that some people prefer to show it by spoiling their ballot paper. As long as they accept that their opinions about the outcome are worth nothing. Terrible comment that BB, loads and load of reasons why you can be politicised and have very strong views whilst thinking that our 'democracy' isn't that great really and your vote doesn't count for as much as it should do.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 13:09:48 GMT
Everyone should vote - it should be mandatory! In the last election 2.4m voted Lib Dem, 3.9m voted UKIP, 9.3m voted Labour, 11.3 million voted Conservative and 15.7 MILLION DID NOT VOTE! These none voters could make all the difference! It is no good complaining that the government of the day is elected on (say) £30% of the voting populace if you did not vote! Especially (I am going to be controversial here - I will have to run for cover) women should ALL vote as women fought for the right to vote in this country. I can imagine that the very women who do not vote would be marching the streets for their right to vote if they still could not! VOTE VOTE VOTE! Did men never fight for the right to vote? They must've done. Women's suffrage came later and benefitted half the population, but voting wasn't a universal male right to begin with either, the poor were very much excluded. I think all men only got the vote 10-20 years before women did? |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 21, 2017 13:22:28 GMT
Did men never fight for the right to vote? They must've done. Women's suffrage came later and benefitted half the population, but voting wasn't a universal male right to begin with either, the poor were very much excluded. I think all men only got the vote 10-20 years before women did? About the same time wasn't it for universal mail suffrage. Didn't loads go off to fight in the first world war who were ineligible to vote |
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Post by Phantom of London on May 21, 2017 14:32:17 GMT
I see the benefit sides of PR, but a electoral system that people don't really understand and isn't clear and one that will give 'fruitcakes' power isn't a good system.
Is it a surprise the British public are dis-engaged with politics, when there was a campaign bus that promised ex amount for the NHS a week, only to hear about further cutbacks, then later this got spun as 'could' be spent, from prominent Brexiters, when our elected officials claim unfair money in the great expenses scandal, aome have several other jobs. So it is hard to engage young people, if young people did vote, we wouldn't be leaving the EU.
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Post by Phantom of London on May 21, 2017 14:33:40 GMT
Did men never fight for the right to vote? They must've done. Women's suffrage came later and benefitted half the population, but voting wasn't a universal male right to begin with either, the poor were very much excluded. I think all men only got the vote 10-20 years before women did? It is right women should be allowed to vote, only once all the chores are done. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 14:41:26 GMT
Sexist jokes are both unfunny and unoriginal. Let's not!
Anyway people should be automatically registered to vote.
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