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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 19:43:06 GMT
I wonder if the tRex makes an appearance, or the bi planes, or whether they are suggested by the projections I would see that King Kong v T-Rex live.
If the scenery is all projection, then could they dress the puppeteers in green and make them almost disappear using a green-screen technique ? (being clever there).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 21:01:28 GMT
I wonder if the tRex makes an appearance, or the bi planes, or whether they are suggested by the projections I would see that King Kong v T-Rex live.
If the scenery is all projection, then could they dress the puppeteers in green and make them almost disappear using a green-screen technique ? (being clever there).
Green Screen only works in video post-production. It works by subtracting a specific colour signal from a whole 'mixed' video signal. It sounds like there's no T-Rex or Planes, just a big snake attack on the heroine. Edit: Also it sounds like they're using video wall (in laymans terms a complex array of TV's) rather than projection, which would make sense, creating a darker environment to allowing the Kong mechanisms to disappear.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 23:48:50 GMT
Green Screen only works in video post-production. It works by subtracting a specific colour signal from a whole 'mixed' video signal. Yes exactly. And this video is then projected onto the back wall.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 7:20:23 GMT
Green Screen only works in video post-production. It works by subtracting a specific colour signal from a whole 'mixed' video signal. Yes exactly. And this video is then projected onto the back wall. It wouldn't affect the actors stood in front of the screen though, no matter what colour they're wearing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 7:57:10 GMT
Yes exactly. And this video is then projected onto the back wall. It wouldn't affect the actors stood in front of the screen though, no matter what colour they're wearing. To clarify: Green Screen technique works when you have two layers of video, one on top of the other. One with lots of Green in it, on the top layer. You then subtract the green channel from the video signal of the top layer creating an invisible channel allowing the video underneath the show though. There is no way to do this with the human eye. Projectors work by shining red, green and blue light at a surface. If you were to project the resulting video (say just blue and red channels as you have 'removed' all the green) onto a screen, no matter what colour, you would just be projecting the red and blue video. If someone stood in front of the screen wearing green, they would just appear there normal with the red and blue signal projected on them. My ability to coherently explain this isn't great, but if your able to, watch a video on youtube on how green screen works.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 22:32:06 GMT
It wouldn't affect the actors stood in front of the screen though, no matter what colour they're wearing. To clarify: Green Screen technique works when you have two layers of video, one on top of the other. One with lots of Green in it, on the top layer. You then subtract the green channel from the video signal of the top layer creating an invisible channel allowing the video underneath the show though. There is no way to do this with the human eye. Projectors work by shining red, green and blue light at a surface. If you were to project the resulting video (say just blue and red channels as you have 'removed' all the green) onto a screen, no matter what colour, you would just be projecting the red and blue video. If someone stood in front of the screen wearing green, they would just appear there normal with the red and blue signal projected on them. My ability to coherently explain this isn't great, but if your able to, watch a video on youtube on how green screen works. You really did not need to take so much time trying to educate me.
And I am sure that my original idea was a good one.
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Post by david on Oct 19, 2018 3:51:38 GMT
Well tonight was the night I watched this. When the show was originally announced, it was certainly on my list of shows to get a ticket for while in NY, with some excitement that ticket was purchased for the Mezz section of the theatre as I thought I would get a better perspective higher up than being at stage level. Ok, ticket purchased, sit back and wait. Then I read the early reviews on the Broadway World site which were not exactly filling me with much joy. Had I made a mistake in getting a ticket?
Well, as a visual spectacle, you cannot fault what is on stage. It is simply mind blowing over the 2.5hrs. You get plenty of projections, smoke and lasers for your money. The projections used really are fantastic and are used to set the different scenes in the show rather than actual sets (though there are some used). Though there is one effect early on which cleverly uses the stage which is very impressive. Then we come to the main event, Kong himself. WOW! As a puppet, I thought watching how they did War Horse on stage was great, but this is on a totally different level. While you know there are people operating the puppet to bring him to life, you forget that they are there, the movements created by the guys at stage level and those up in the stage balcony operating the ropes create something truly magical in being able to bring Kong to life and give him a range of emotions. It’s only when you see Kong standing up do you get an idea on how big this puppet is and the effort it must take to create the movements.
Now with respect to the musical score, this really is in my opinion not particularly great. It certainly isn’t a score that when I walked out of the theatre it was one that blew me away or that I would want to listen to again. For me, there weren’t that many numbers that I thought were memorable. It didn’t help with there being a range of styles from 1930s jazz numbers some more rock style ballards. Also, a lot of the music used is more incidental music rather than your traditional musical score. The first Act numbers really did nothing for me, while in Act 2, there where the more modern style of music with a couple of decent songs. As other people have said, most people are going for the spectacle rather than the music. It will be interesting to read the reviews to see what the critics make of the musical score.
As for the cast, Christiani Pitts as Ann Darrow plays the role well, giving the character a bit more of a feisty edge rather than your tradional damsel in distress that is portrayed in the films. Vocally, I cannot fault her performance tonight, particularly in the rockier Act 2 songs. I just wished we had had a bit more of that in Act 1. Eric William MorrIs as Carl Denham came across well as the scheming film producer and vocally was ok, but nothing special. At the bows at the end, it was nice to see the guys operating Kong getting a chance for the audience to show their appreciation.
A big shoutout to the FOH staff, they were certainly lively tonight having to deal with those people who felt the need to record parts of the show. Though the staff did that with minimal disruption to the rest of the audience.
Overall, was it worth the ticket price? Definitely.
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Post by madsonmelo on Nov 9, 2018 3:55:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 9:23:21 GMT
I have a contender for my favourite review line of the year "green spaghetti with phlegm balls." That review is actually more creative than the show it appears!
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Post by viserys on Nov 9, 2018 10:28:57 GMT
That jumped out at me, too. I love it when critics get creative/snarky-in-a-fun-way when tearing an awful show to shreds.
Needless to say that King Kong is now definitely scrapped from my list of shows to potentially see next spring!
Bring it to Germany instead, they'll love it here!
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Post by indis on Nov 9, 2018 15:34:52 GMT
i would love to see the show
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Post by raider80 on Nov 9, 2018 16:02:03 GMT
wait, this show is $35 million!!! I knew the show cost alot but not that much! So, should we classify this as a flop? There is no way the producers will make their money back.
I want to see the types of pull-down qoutes the producers will put up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 9:06:29 GMT
Eddie has had a less then 'perfect' reviews recently. Will he be used in the future?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 9:08:24 GMT
That jumped out at me, too. I love it when critics get creative/snarky-in-a-fun-way when tearing an awful show to shreds. Needless to say that King Kong is now definitely scrapped from my list of shows to potentially see next spring! Bring it to Germany instead, they'll love it here! I would not want it on my worse enemy . I think the Germans deserve better. Especially with my favourite leader is from there
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Post by noboiscout on Nov 10, 2018 11:00:50 GMT
I have a ticket booked for February, but suspect it won't survive until then. Shame - I missed Dance of the Vampires, although did catch The Pirate Queen. I like an occasional car crash show - makes you appreciate the good stuff more - and also encourages me to take a chance on Off Broadway/West End/Fringe shows, where you often find better quality and more enjoyment (not that it stops me going to see big overblown shows as well, of course!)
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Post by raider80 on Nov 12, 2018 15:04:37 GMT
King Kong is set to perform on the Macy's day parade. I wonder what they'll do? They will be ok as long as Kong is on screen.
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Post by raider80 on Nov 22, 2018 15:12:12 GMT
King Kong's performance on the Macy's thanksgiving parade took a lot of mystery sirounding the puppet away for me but, the performance probably sold some tickets to the regular tourist audience.
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Post by musicalmarge on Nov 25, 2018 6:42:53 GMT
KING KONG THE MUSICAL! Saw this tonight..
Wow!!! First of all it doesn’t really know if it’s a play or a musical, the music is terrible and it’s had dreadful reviews after opening just a few weeks ago. BUT.... the stagecraft, spectacle and puppetry in this show is first class, jaw dropping and 10/10 (think Harry Potter standard for those who have seen it) My friends and I were blown away by the set, lasers, hydraulics and that 20ft ape on stage. You can see why it cost 35 million dollars - just a shame they didn’t get a better composer as this will sadly cause this incredible show to fail.
Still, it’s really worth seeing and the best show we have seen this weekend so far. Frozen could learn a lot from this standard of epic staging. 8/10 🦍🇺🇸🎶🎭
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 19:07:56 GMT
I've seen on the Broadway World message board that someone knows someone "in the know" who has said this will be closing by the end of Winter. Obviously it's hear say and we learn not to listen, but it wouldn't surprise me considering the expense of it!
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Post by musicalmarge on Dec 3, 2018 10:52:52 GMT
I've seen on the Broadway World message board that someone knows someone "in the know" who has said this will be closing by the end of Winter. Obviously it's hear say and we learn not to listen, but it wouldn't surprise me considering the expense of it! If it closes it will be a shame - visually it’s one of the best things I have ever seen. Just the music was dreadful! Why don’t people learn?!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 12:00:40 GMT
Madrid will be the first European city to get this show, in 2019.
It will be produced by Break A Leg Entertainment, who will also finance the construction of a theatre in Casa de Campo, which will be created to accommodate the size and technical requirements of the production.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 22:28:52 GMT
Madrid will be the first European city to get this show, in 2019. It will be produced by Break A Leg Entertainment, who will also finance the construction of a theatre in Casa de Campo, which will be created to accommodate the size and technical requirements of the production. This has been confirmed to be a joke. Remember today is our 'April Fools' in Spain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 12:22:06 GMT
Madrid will be the first European city to get this show, in 2019. It will be produced by Break A Leg Entertainment, who will also finance the construction of a theatre in Casa de Campo, which will be created to accommodate the size and technical requirements of the production. This has been confirmed to be a joke. Remember today is our 'April Fools' in Spain. Haha, I had forgotten that, so hadn't realised this was a joke. 😂 I did also see this morning that Ghost The Musical will be coming to Madrid in October 2019. But I'll need to double check this too then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 13:53:27 GMT
This has been confirmed to be a joke. Remember today is our 'April Fools' in Spain. Haha, I had forgotten that, so hadn't realised this was a joke. 😂 I did also see this morning that Ghost The Musical will be coming to Madrid in October 2019. But I'll need to double check this too then. Hahah I had forgotten too until I started reading some crazy news and realized something was wrong! The Ghost news seem to be real!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 12:23:43 GMT
Perhaps it’s not doing so badly after all?
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Post by musicalmarge on Jan 3, 2019 19:48:46 GMT
In reflection this was the best show I saw on Broadway on my last trip. I just wish the music had been better.
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Post by Scots UK Theatre on Jan 17, 2019 13:40:27 GMT
In terms of a ‘’Musical’’ this is genuinely the worst musical I have ever seen and I’ve seen some howlers over the years. It just doesn’t work as musical. The delays etc haven’t helped it’s development.
However as a spectacle it is very impressive. When Kong flies through the air it is a genuine wow moment. The closer you are to the front can mean you need to suspend your disbelief somewhat with the puppeteers bit it’s amazingly well done.
As a show I’m glad I saw it as a musical I was less than impressed.
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Post by Steffi on Feb 6, 2019 18:46:04 GMT
I saw this last month. It’s a terrible musical in my opinion. Wasn’t impressed by any of the songs. I also found it over-choreographed (like a lot of Drew McOnie‘s work - I generally love his choreography but I always feel he doesn’t know when to stop). Plus I really wanted to like the leading lady but just didn’t.
However, I did love the puppet. For me it was worth seeing for the spectacle but as a musical it just doesn’t work.
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