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Post by lynette on May 31, 2017 9:35:46 GMT
O dear
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Post by n1david on May 31, 2017 10:10:26 GMT
First preview! Early days! (Looks cautiously at half-full glass, prepares tickets to take to NT for future credit note)
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 10:14:27 GMT
Cush Jumbo and Anne Marie Duff! There's a limit to how bad it can be, surely??
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 10:15:05 GMT
OTOH, a quick tour of twitter* reveals other positive comments. Could well be a divisive play (in divisive times).
* other methods of gauging public response are available.
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Post by zak97 on May 31, 2017 10:16:48 GMT
Slightly concerned about going tonight now, would hate to waste an evening but equally can't afford to book anything else.
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Post by Jan on May 31, 2017 10:20:15 GMT
I thought the Travelex sponsorship was supposed to develop a new NT audience. Instead they are using it to boost audiences for shows which are potentially "difficult" and of limited appeal. I think this is counter-productive, how many first-time theatregoers who went to Salome or this would be likely ever to go again ?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 10:30:36 GMT
Would be interesting to see whether likes/dislikes for this split down gender lines.
I remember dreading seeing The Suicide at the NT and while it was definitely not my usual cup of tea I ended up rather enjoying it. Always worth going in with an open mind. Though I confess I did return my Salome ticket...
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 10:32:53 GMT
I thought the Travelex sponsorship was supposed to develop a new NT audience. Instead they are using it to boost audiences for shows which are potentially "difficult" and of limited appeal. I think this is counter-productive, how many first-time theatregoers who went to Salome or this would be likely ever to go again ? After one random person's comment? Whatever happened to waiting for a range of opinions and considered reactions or is that considered too old fashioned a view nowadays? In times gone by, productions would be able to use previews of new plays effectively, now something is dismissed after its first contact with an audience. The internet is great but it really is destructive in many ways (not suggesting Russians have hacked into theatre reviews, they probably have enough on their plate with the election). |
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Post by Jan on May 31, 2017 11:02:00 GMT
I thought the Travelex sponsorship was supposed to develop a new NT audience. Instead they are using it to boost audiences for shows which are potentially "difficult" and of limited appeal. I think this is counter-productive, how many first-time theatregoers who went to Salome or this would be likely ever to go again ? After one random person's comment? Whatever happened to waiting for a range of opinions and considered reactions or is that considered too old fashioned a view nowadays? In times gone by, productions would be able to use previews of new plays effectively, now something is dismissed after its first contact with an audience. The internet is great but it really is destructive in many ways (not suggesting Russians have hacked into theatre reviews, they probably have enough on their plate with the election). My comment is a general one based on the last three shows in Travelex alongside those that aren't. Would a first-time theatre-goer be more likely to enjoy Twelfth Night or Salome ? |
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Post by theatrelover123 on May 31, 2017 11:12:18 GMT
OTOH, a quick tour of twitter* reveals other positive comments. Could well be a divisive play (in divisive times). * other methods of gauging public response are available. I would say that about 80% of the comments on Twitter under #NTCommon are pretty damning. What a shame. Giving it a chance waiting for more comments though  |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 11:16:05 GMT
Yet if you just search "common @nationaltheatre" the only real dissenting voice thinks it needs to be shorter but otherwise likes the acting and the staging.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 11:17:38 GMT
After one random person's comment? Whatever happened to waiting for a range of opinions and considered reactions or is that considered too old fashioned a view nowadays? In times gone by, productions would be able to use previews of new plays effectively, now something is dismissed after its first contact with an audience. The internet is great but it really is destructive in many ways (not suggesting Russians have hacked into theatre reviews, they probably have enough on their plate with the election). My comment is a general one based on the last three shows in Travelex alongside those that aren't. Would a first-time theatre-goer be more likely to enjoy Twelfth Night or Salome ? I would have imagined Salome but its potential wasn't realised. There should be a mix of new plays and revivals but the former are more difficult to gauge. They will not have programmed it thinking that it would be a dud, from someone who had directed big successes and a known title it was a decent call. |
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Post by viewfromthecheapseat on May 31, 2017 11:23:17 GMT
One of the issues last night was a problem with sound levels - some of it was inaudible. I hope they sort it out. The acting and staging are fine - it's the writing that's the problem.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 11:24:11 GMT
OTOH, a quick tour of twitter* reveals other positive comments. Could well be a divisive play (in divisive times). * other methods of gauging public response are available. I would say that about 80% of the comments on Twitter under #NTCommon are pretty damning. What a shame. Giving it a chance waiting for more comments though Easy to do the maths, it's 50/50 on that one but much more positive on others. As I say, divisive. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 11:27:59 GMT
After one random person's comment? Whatever happened to waiting for a range of opinions and considered reactions or is that considered too old fashioned a view nowadays? In times gone by, productions would be able to use previews of new plays effectively, now something is dismissed after its first contact with an audience. The internet is great but it really is destructive in many ways (not suggesting Russians have hacked into theatre reviews, they probably have enough on their plate with the election). My comment is a general one based on the last three shows in Travelex alongside those that aren't. Would a first-time theatre-goer be more likely to enjoy Twelfth Night or Salome ? Depends what they're into, surely? First time theatregoers are likely to be as diverse in their interests as the rest of the population. |
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Post by Jan on May 31, 2017 15:59:50 GMT
My comment is a general one based on the last three shows in Travelex alongside those that aren't. Would a first-time theatre-goer be more likely to enjoy Twelfth Night or Salome ? Depends what they're into, surely? First time theatregoers are likely to be as diverse in their interests as the rest of the population. No. The answer is Twelfth Night (with a TV star). That's why it's been revived every couple of years for the last 50 years. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 16:16:32 GMT
Depends what they're into, surely? First time theatregoers are likely to be as diverse in their interests as the rest of the population. No. The answer is Twelfth Night (with a TV star). That's why it's been revived every couple of years for the last 50 years. Well, having been given two different answers, it suggests there isn't a correct answer. Personally, I find that non theatre goers initially shy away from Shakespeare. Anyway, this one has Duff and Jumbo. |
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Post by theatremiss on May 31, 2017 16:24:37 GMT
I'm there Friday night, so hope it's not too long
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 16:54:20 GMT
I'm there Friday night, so hope it's not too long According to their website it's 3hrs |
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Post by zak97 on May 31, 2017 17:28:17 GMT
I'm there Friday night, so hope it's not too long According to their website it's 3hrs Oh I'm concerned about tonight. The content and the length. I'm going to go in as positive as possible, but if it is bad I'll have no shame in leaving at the interval. |
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Post by peggs on May 31, 2017 19:07:23 GMT
Gore report please
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Post by zak97 on May 31, 2017 20:53:57 GMT
Left at the interval, as did a few others. Did not like the play, didn't hate it, but didn't like it enough to endure the seat I was in for another a hour and half. The non-existent legroom and back support was dire.
Not too much gore really, on visuals for blood on the face in one fight scene that would probably only be visible from the front of the stalls.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:47:06 GMT
I will stay until the end
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Post by peggs on May 31, 2017 21:57:46 GMT
I will stay until the end parsley are you unwell?! I am curious now! |
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Post by jadnoop on May 31, 2017 22:08:24 GMT
It's difficult to tell whether the tweets about walk-outs represent a vocal minority, or a more significant proportion of the audience, but if the play is really dividing the audiences this much I feel a little sorry for the actors. I can't imagine working for months and months on something and then have to perform day after day to bored/bewildered faces and empty seats.
Having said that, I seem to recall a fair few interval walk-outs at Annie Baker's The Flick last year, and that was easily one of my favourite plays I saw that year, so I'm not sure that a hugely divisive play is necessarily a bad thing.
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