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Post by dave72 on Apr 23, 2017 19:54:49 GMT
I'm surprised not to find a thread for this yet. This play by Branden Jacobs-Jenkins, one of the most celebrated young American playwrights (Pulitzer Prize finalist, winner of a MacArthur "genius" grant, another play opening in June at the Hampstead Theatre, etc.), was a huge success in New York in 2015. I thought it one of the most exciting plays I've seen in recent years. The Orange Tree production will be a very different experience, since it's in the round, whereas the New York production made use of elaborate stage effects. Nor do I know much about the recently announced cast. But I'm very much looking forward to it. www.orangetreetheatre.co.uk/whats-on/an-octoroon
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Post by sondheimhats on Apr 24, 2017 1:53:54 GMT
I saw this in Brooklyn and thought it was simply extraordinary. One of the most bold and brilliant plays I've seen in my life. I would highly recommend it.
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Post by showgirl on Apr 24, 2017 4:09:13 GMT
I am going and recall at least one other poster saying s/he was, so nearer the time I expect someone would have started a thread. But thank you for doing so, dave72. I did see the theatre's tweet about casting but didn't bother to check, as it makes no difference to my attendance - and in fact, given some of the OT's recent casting/direction, I'd rather not know until I have to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 7:19:04 GMT
I'm going, I heard lots of good word of mouth from New York so thought it would be worth a bash, especially with Ned Bennett directing. I'm not going until fairly near the end of the run though.
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Post by showgirl on May 16, 2017 5:21:32 GMT
Crumbs, estimated running time is currently 2 hours 25 - why did I not stick to my usual practice of booking only matinees at this venue?!
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Post by showgirl on May 18, 2017 21:43:21 GMT
OMG! I can't say that words fail me, or this is unspeakably bad because I'm going to carry on to vent about it, but it's hard to know where to begin and goodness knows where the play ended since I escaped at the interval and suspect I wasn't the only one. In fact, 3 people leaped up and beat a hasty retreat within the first 20 minutes (yes, it had been that unremittingly dire for that long) when the lights dimmed temporarily, though in doing so they nearly collided with some cast members who were rushing around under cover of darkness. I was very tempted to follow suit but didn't want to risk tripping someone up.
What I can't currently do is sum up just why and how this was such a disappointment and a disaster, so suffice it to say that it reminded me of Blazing Saddles (which, needless to say, I hated, having been dragged to it by my then boyfriend) - and until today I had totally forgotten/expunged from my memory the fact that I'd ever seen that awful film.
As usual, however, I expect everyone else will love it...
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 5:54:46 GMT
Seeing this in a few weeks.
The box office were lovely and helpful when I phoned up and wanted to return 1 ticket and swap another for a different date.
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Post by zahidf on May 19, 2017 9:24:01 GMT
I'm seeing it on Monday. it had excellent reviews in America
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Post by showgirl on May 19, 2017 10:28:41 GMT
The US reviews were indeed excellent and precisely why I booked with such hope and expectation. However, this is a different production; also, I think I saw the first preview so at the least it will probably speed up - as I think it needs to.
Fundamentally though, I think the subject and treatment are just not for me - but then, I also saw, and failed to "get" the film Dear White People, which I've seen mentioned in connection with this. I sat through that film baffled by what it was meant to be saying and how it could have attracted such praise so maybe it was deja vu last night.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 10:32:24 GMT
I fear that many of the more befuddled residents of Richmond may have confused An Octoroon with A Macaroon and have booked in anticipation of enjoying a nice play about cakes.
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Post by dave72 on May 19, 2017 15:25:28 GMT
It's a wild, hilarious, challenging, completely unpredictable play. Somebody described it as Uncle Tom's Cabin as rewritten by the Marx Brothers, and I think that's just about right. In my view, one of the most exciting plays of the last decade. But yes, much depends on the production, which I haven't (yet) seen--the New York production set a very high standard.
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Post by showgirl on May 24, 2017 18:49:33 GMT
I'm seeing it on Monday. it had excellent reviews in America Come on then, zahidf - don't keep us all in suspense - what did you think?
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Post by zahidf on May 24, 2017 22:04:10 GMT
I'm seeing it on Monday. it had excellent reviews in America Come on then, zahidf - don't keep us all in suspense - what did you think? Ha! It was purposefully bizarre and provocative. It was different, but i cant say it was boring. I think there will be a LOT of confused punters for this if they go by the play description on the website. It makes it sound like a wacky costume drama, when its more of a art house, agent provacateur piece Its not a million miles away from that mr burns play that was at the almeida a couple of years ago Ill also say the youngsters in the audience really liked it. And a lot of the old people left in the interval.
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Post by showgirl on May 25, 2017 4:48:36 GMT
Oh God, Mr Burns - that underlines my antipathy to this as Mr Burns was one of the productions I part-saw during that entirely awful (imho, obviously) season at the Almeida a couple of years ago and which overall led me to forswear future visits until a semblance of normality had returned. However, I am glad you seem to have enjoyed it and if this production attracts a younger audience the AD will be pleased. Not sure the faithful regulars will be able to say the same, but some you win, some you send home in a baffled huff. Btw, I think you mean "oldER" rather than simply "old" people, don't you, zahidf?
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Post by zahidf on May 25, 2017 8:45:11 GMT
Oh God, Mr Burns - that underlines my antipathy to this as Mr Burns was one of the productions I part-saw during that entirely awful (imho, obviously) season at the Almeida a couple of years ago and which overall led me to forswear future visits until a semblance of normality had returned. However, I am glad you seem to have enjoyed it and if this production attracts a younger audience the AD will be pleased. Not sure the faithful regulars will be able to say the same, but some you win, some you send home in a baffled huff. Btw, I think you mean "oldER" rather than simply "old" people, don't you, zahidf ?
Ha, yes, Older is what I meant!
I don't mind experimental stuff like this, but I think it should probably have been expressed as such a little more clearly in the advertising. The first 20 minutes will REALLY test unprepared audience members.
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Post by showgirl on May 25, 2017 8:51:46 GMT
zahidf, you are so right about the first 20 mins in particular as they had me wondering in horror whether I'd unwittingly booked for a one-person show - which to me it is, when there is no actual cast and which I avoid on principle. Not that, imho, things improved when more actors appeared at last. Plus - though I would say this, wouldn't I - I do think the information could have been clearer and it's ironic that this was my only "must-see" of the whole season, yet turned out the most disappointing.
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Post by Steve on May 28, 2017 12:17:46 GMT
Saw the Saturday matinee and absolutely loved this. A brilliantly challenging, ever playful, hysterically melodramatic take on racism and the South, with a snarling bite. Some spoilers follow. . . This is SO Tim Crouch. Everything that the Royal Court's "Adler and Gibb" did for "fake news" and narcissism , this does for race and the South. For those who didn't see "Adler and Gibb," the characters began as unclothed actors and put on their characters by degrees throughout the play. Denise Gough went from an automaton to a female Donald Trump who would do ANYTHING for acclaim. The play ended with a movie version, of the events we witnessed over the course of the play, that was "FAKE NEWS" in every respect, but which seemed more real than "the reality" we had witnessed. In hindsight, this was one of the most insightful plays I've ever seen. Unfortunately, those insights were contained in a format that turned off far too many punters. Branden Jacobs-Jenkins' play reinvents Crouch's format, but keeps things on an entertaining keel throughout. He retains the concept of unclothed actors dressing up as their characters, which here includes the methodical application of white face, black face and red face on the actors, he includes an ongoing Brechtian critique of the storyline we are witnessing, and he even builds up to an audiovisual revelation towards the end, that serves as capper and commentary, just as Crouch did. But what Jacobs-Jenkins also does is exchange some of Crouch's seriousness for (apparently) childish playfulness, which means this show is far less likely to alienate audiences. Also, by adapting a known work by a seriously successful 19th century playwright, Dion Boucicault (author of the National's "London Assurance" which starred Simon Russell Beale), he guarantees himself a dramatic frame which works to entertain in it's own right, even as he hilariously upends and twists it, like playdough, as we go along. And where Crouch used grim reality to deconstruct fake news, Jacobs-Jenkins effectively does the reverse, using fake news (Boucicault's "the Octaroon") to deconstruct real news. When the real news hit, towards the end of the piece, I felt so punched in the gut, I couldn't concentrate on the actual ending of the play, which became a mere epilogue, in my experience. Anyway, this is a terrific work, and Ken Nwosu was thrilling in multiple roles, playing both the protagonist and antagonist of Boucicault's play, but also playing Branden Jacobs-Jenkins himself, provocatively and teasingly self-identified as a "black playwright." Nwosu flips effortlessly from one character to the other, and as he moves in and out of various realities, certain scenes play both comically and seriously simultaneously, depending on who an audience member is imagining they are watching at any time: Boucicalt's characters, Jacobs-Jenkins or Ken Nwosu!? There are also some wonderful supporting performances, with Emmanuela Cole's actress/slave Dido compelling and warm, Celeste Dodwell's Dora barkingly and deliberately OTT, Kevin Trainor's Boucicalt alternately gentle and fierce, and Alistair Toovey's blackface characters unnerving, provocative and funny. This is a terrific play, superbly performed in an intimate space. There is so much to process and so much to muse on. And also, so much that amuses, even, and perhaps especially, in observing other audience members. At one point, as Nwosu's Branden Jacobs-Jenkins puts on white face, Snoop Dogg's horrible sexist and racist chant "Step Yo Game Up" comes on with it's refrains, about what "bitches" must do to "niggas," to a thundering bass, and one old lady's face assumed a silent scream, while another old lady starting tapping her foot with the pounding beat in evident pleasure. There is just too much to see here to miss this! 4 and a half stars
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 3:51:47 GMT
Apologies but I can't read Steve's posts because they're too detailed for me and risk swamping my firsthand reactions.
One observation on the play and production is that I bristle at the playwright's apparently overwhelming contribution. I generally feel more comfortable in the presence of a collaborative show, such as by the Wooster Group who've tackled similar themes in similar ways, because they are totally made to be experienced by an audience present in the room, whereas I always feel suspicious of a text-based piece like this where it appears that a sole author of the text has laid down a specific path which the audience struggles to identify and to recognise. Last night there was a core audience of seasoned supporters of the Orange Tree who strained to appreciate the piece as best they could and who were eventually rewarded towards the end in the melodramatic extravaganza which they lapped up with relish.
I am so glad to have had the opportunity to see this show - Thank You Orange Tree! - but I come down on the side of those who find professional academic american playwriting to be not quite to their taste.
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Post by gazzaw13 on Jun 7, 2017 9:47:27 GMT
I'm not a great fan of post modernist takes on old plays but this really works. No-one in this day and age would want to see Boucicault's "the Octaroon" but BJJ's deconstruction makes for a clever, engaging and highly original evening. I was really impressed by the whole cast, in particular their interaction with the audience including three elderly ladies gripped by the story and one poor man fast asleep after only 10 minutes. I agree, Ken Nwosu was a real standout.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 19:44:33 GMT
This was weird
But I liked it
Excellent staging
The last 20 mins are hard going on the cast
Impressive!
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 22, 2017 22:14:04 GMT
Is it still coming in at 2hr 30?
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Post by PalelyLaura on Jun 30, 2017 11:17:51 GMT
Saw this last night. Loved it. Clever and extremely funny. Also, the most diverse cast I've probably ever seen at the Orange Tree.
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Post by showgirl on Jun 30, 2017 11:55:06 GMT
It's going to be Jerusalem all over again, isn't it? I'll be the only member who hated what I did see & couldn't escape fast enough. That said, maybe those who have enjoyed it would be less keen on the traditional Orange Tree fare - as it was, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 11:59:13 GMT
the traditional Orange Tree fare - as it was, anyway Remember that Martin Crimp was an Orange Tree regular playwright for decades.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jun 30, 2017 15:12:54 GMT
Literally the best thing I've seen this year.
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