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Apr 18, 2017 23:43:26 GMT
Post by Phantom of London on Apr 18, 2017 23:43:26 GMT
Many of us use Wikipedia, I find in a great resource, but is it accurate?
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Apr 18, 2017 23:48:00 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 23:48:00 GMT
Depends. I use it all the time, but anyone can edit it so really anything can be said. If there are references, then dependant on the references, that is the best way to judge it.
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Apr 19, 2017 4:34:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 4:34:55 GMT
It's mostly accurate, especially for scientific and technical matters where it's difficult for someone who doesn't understand a subject to sabotage it convincingly. Check the references and edit history of a page if you have doubts.
The idea that anyone can edit it so you can't trust it is one of those beliefs that comes under "it makes sense so it must be true", but making sense doesn't make it real. I've found Wikipedia to be about as accurate as the Encyclopædia Britannica and usually more comprehensive.
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Apr 19, 2017 7:52:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 7:52:41 GMT
I once got banned for repeatedly updating Jodie Marsh's entry. At the time I had some real negative issues surrounding her but I'm over that now. YOU DIDNT WIN JODIE!
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Apr 19, 2017 8:22:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 8:22:26 GMT
I get that anyone can edit the Wikipedia to say whatever they want, but it's also worth bearing in mind that anyone can write a book saying whatever they want. And Wikipedia has the advantage over a book in that if you publish something that's demonstrably wrong, someone else can fix it, whereas if you publish a book that is demonstrably wrong (for instance one of the dozens of tomes purporting to cure autism or dyslexia) there's very little anyone can do to directly counter your work beyond publishing an opposing work (which people might not be aware of or choose to buy) or setting fire to any copies they find in bookshops (maybe do it in the alley behind the shop though).
I wouldn't cite Wikipedia as my primary source for an academic work unless I was making points specifically about the Wikipedia, but I'd certainly feel happy starting my research there and using the sources they reference as a jumping off point for further investigation. And as a non-academic, I find it a reasonable enough source of information on subjects I find interesting, particularly as I know there are people out there who make it their business to chase down malicious and inaccurate edits.
It's like any other source - there's no reason not to basically trust it, as long as you take everything with a pinch of salt and do further investigation when reading up on something that matters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 8:29:32 GMT
Not that any of the up-their-own-backsides ones would admit it, but plenty of academics use it as a starting point. I certainly did, if nothing else it's a jumping off point via their links to sources on whatever you're looking for. Also it's useful before jumping into a more in-depth or complex source to have a basic summary in mind-even if the minor details are slightly off/more nuanced than wiki gives.
And I think it's better than many 'traditional' sources because it's editable by anyone- sure people can make stuff up but there's enough people monitoring it to call out and fix the stuff that's wrong. Also because it's 'live' it can be edited with updates rather than an out of date book.
Both books (peer reviewed ones for academic-y research-y subjects to use the technical term) and wikis have their place, but I have no shame in saying I use Wikipedia for a starting point.
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Apr 19, 2017 8:29:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 8:29:33 GMT
Baemax is right, never cite Wikipedia as a source unless doing a piece of academic work on Wikipedia itself! When we did our dissertations, our lecturer told us to use Wikipedia if we want to, to find references to proper pages where you can get the proper information from rather than write and quote directly from Wikipedia and may be saying stuff that is not factually correct by how someone has typed it.
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Apr 19, 2017 8:30:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 8:30:02 GMT
Not that any of the up-their-own-backsides ones would admit it, but plenty of academics use it as a starting point. I certainly did, if nothing else it's a jumping off point via their links to sources on whatever you're looking for. Also it's useful before jumping into a more in-depth or complex source to have a basic summary in mind-even if the minor details are slightly off/more nuanced than wiki gives. And I think it's better than many 'traditional' sources because it's editable by anyone- sure people can make stuff up but there's enough people monitoring it to call out and fix the stuff that's wrong. Also because it's 'live' it can be edited with updates rather than an out of date book. Both books (peer reviewed ones for academic-y research-y subjects to use the technical term) and wikis have their place, but I have no shame in saying I use Wikipedia for a starting point. What she said pretty much hahaha.
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Apr 19, 2017 8:32:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 8:32:49 GMT
Not that any of the up-their-own-backsides ones would admit it, but plenty of academics use it as a starting point. I certainly did, if nothing else it's a jumping off point via their links to sources on whatever you're looking for. Also it's useful before jumping into a more in-depth or complex source to have a basic summary in mind-even if the minor details are slightly off/more nuanced than wiki gives. And I think it's better than many 'traditional' sources because it's editable by anyone- sure people can make stuff up but there's enough people monitoring it to call out and fix the stuff that's wrong. Also because it's 'live' it can be edited with updates rather than an out of date book. Both books (peer reviewed ones for academic-y research-y subjects to use the technical term) and wikis have their place, but I have no shame in saying I use Wikipedia for a starting point. What she said pretty much hahaha. I should have my own Wikipedia page
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Apr 19, 2017 12:14:39 GMT
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Post by bellboard27 on Apr 19, 2017 12:14:39 GMT
What she said pretty much hahaha. I should have my own Wikipedia page I'm sure this board collectively could write a page about you. Of course we would not guarantee the accuracy or even relevance of what would be written!
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Apr 19, 2017 12:23:12 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 12:23:12 GMT
I should have my own Wikipedia page I'm sure this board collectively could write a page about you. Of course we would not guarantee the accuracy or even relevance of what would be written! I'm not quite sure how to take that, other than being fairly certain it's an insult?!
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Apr 19, 2017 12:54:04 GMT
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Post by bellboard27 on Apr 19, 2017 12:54:04 GMT
I'm sure this board collectively could write a page about you. Of course we would not guarantee the accuracy or even relevance of what would be written! I'm not quite sure how to take that, other than being fairly certain it's an insult?! Far from it!
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Apr 19, 2017 15:04:37 GMT
Post by Phantom of London on Apr 19, 2017 15:04:37 GMT
Good points raised.
Also why would someone want to edit something that is "incorrect", they're not going to increase their credibility, so those people would rather go on social media and have the knowledge, security and kudos of people following them. Big companies and fans also ensure that information is correct.
Someone said this to me the other day, yourtypical Daily Mail reader, who hates anything Goggle, Apple or American, the sort of person who is mourning the loss f the empire.
So your views are enlightening.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:59:43 GMT
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Post by Mark on Apr 19, 2017 15:59:43 GMT
I used to contribute fairly frequently a few years back, and actually have started contributing again just recently. I find it quite therapeutic. There's a distinct lack of coverage of some theatre articles, and I've created and sourced a fair few!
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Apr 19, 2017 16:25:51 GMT
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Post by kathryn on Apr 19, 2017 16:25:51 GMT
How can you be sure that anything published anywhere is accurate? Even peer-reviewed research is only as good as the peers doing the reviewing - and is open to fraud on the part of unscrupulous authors.
Wikipedia essentially has rolling peer review. It can be very good, but it depends.
Worth bearing in mind that certain topics or people pages are likely to attract people with an agenda, and can become battlegrounds, so I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia for anything controversial. And in general if you're looking up something for a really important reason make sure you read the citations - don't rely on the page's summary, go to the sources. But it is a useful jumping-off point.
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