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Post by lynette on Jun 24, 2017 19:46:54 GMT
RAH somewhat iconic so perhaps higher threat.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 25, 2017 10:56:23 GMT
Bag searches and bags needs to be checked in at Chichester, if Chichester got targeted then you know the country is in trouble.
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Post by bellboard27 on Jun 30, 2017 17:40:00 GMT
The NT has changed again. Now there are no tapes funnelling people to security. The bag checkers are there but I walked in with my bag without a check. The atmosphere seems more like it used to be.
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Post by n1david on Jun 30, 2017 19:11:46 GMT
The NT has changed again. Now there are no tapes funnelling people to security. The bag checkers are there but I walked in with my bag without a check. The atmosphere seems more like it used to be. Yes, I was waved through tonight with a small bag not being checked. They had no bag checks at the BFI on Tues and Weds this week either. Let's hope that this is a bit of a return to normal (albeit a new normal). |
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Post by andrew on Jul 1, 2017 0:59:21 GMT
At the NT the uptick in security happened shortly after the terror threat level went from SEVERE to CRITICAL. It went down again very quickly but the level of security was kept on. I don't disagree with the measures during periods like we've had, but having full scale security at a theatre in the long term seems unsustainable. Even in New York City where there's several public buildings that have airport-style screening 365 days a year they don't typically pay much effort to theatre goers.
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Post by Marwood on Jul 2, 2017 16:01:17 GMT
The queues from Hell to get into the Royal Albert Hall, and a prize ****end has just walked into the stalls for the Woody Allen show that's about to begin carrying a guitar in a case (and I'm sat towards the back of the hall so he's unlikely to be performing) - good grief.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 16:06:50 GMT
Can we not say Bellend on here? I might have to repeatedly type it just for the satisfaction. Bellend. (ETA we can clearly others are just more polite than I am  ) ANYWAY Forgot to add earlier this week that the NT staff were charming and effiecent when I was in there (for meetings not a show, so it wasn't busy but still) and it didn't feel pressured or scary at all just sort of 'hey we have to do this' and if you've only a small bag and go in via Kitchen entrance it's really quick. Security guard at the Hampstead was the most thourough I'd come across annoyingly as I had a backpack with my overnight things and my work bag with well work stuff so it took a while. I was going to run over the road and get a sandwich after collecting tickets but couldn't be arsed with that faff again so I bought food there- win for them. |
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Post by Marwood on Jul 2, 2017 17:17:50 GMT
Can we not say Bellend on here? I might have to repeatedly type it just for the satisfaction. Bellend. (ETA we can clearly others are just more polite than I am ) ANYWAY Forgot to add earlier this week that the NT staff were charming and effiecent when I was in there (for meetings not a show, so it wasn't busy but still) and it didn't feel pressured or scary at all just sort of 'hey we have to do this' and if you've only a small bag and go in via Kitchen entrance it's really quick. Security guard at the Hampstead was the most thourough I'd come across annoyingly as I had a backpack with my overnight things and my work bag with well work stuff so it took a while. I was going to run over the road and get a sandwich after collecting tickets but couldn't be arsed with that faff again so I bought food there- win for them. Sorry, I redacted Bellend for those of a more sensitive nature - I felt guilty about lowering the tone of this place on the Sabbath... |
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Post by SageStageMgr on Jul 3, 2017 17:30:44 GMT
I must be the only poster here that LIKES security checks! I find it reassuring...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 8:04:08 GMT
I felt guilty about lowering the tone of this place on the Sabbath We have another basement that only appears on the Sabbath? This place gets more like Hogwarts every day (and nobody wants Hogwarts on their bellend, I'm sure). Don't wave your want about on the Sabbath |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 11:37:47 GMT
I mean both work to be honest (and if they don't there's a spell for that) |
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Post by tmesis on Jul 16, 2017 23:24:42 GMT
I was at tonight's prom and a bit dismayed to see that for the first time there are Waterloo Bridge-style crash barriers at the foot of the steps that lead to the elegant rear entrance to RAH (off Prince Consort Road.) There's even airport security style 'doorframes' to walk through too that look absolutely dire. Hopefully, if they plan something permanent they'll come up with something more aesthetically pleasing. I totally get why this is necessary, and that part is vulnerable because that's where the promenades queue up, but this is so horrible it has to be seen to be believed.
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Post by peggs on Jul 17, 2017 11:26:19 GMT
I was at tonight's prom and a bit dismayed to see that for the first time there are Waterloo Bridge-style crash barriers at the foot of the steps that lead to the elegant rear entrance to RAH (off Prince Consort Road.) There's even airport security style 'doorframes' to walk through too that look absolutely dire. Hopefully, if they plan something permanent they'll come up with something more aesthetically pleasing. I totally get why this is necessary, and that part is vulnerable because that's where the promenades queue up, but this is so horrible it has to be seen to be believed. Yeah there was something in the Saturday papers about it being there specifically for the queues because of the increasing vehicle attacks on pedestrians, did make me wonder where else they might spring up. |
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Post by bellboard27 on Jul 24, 2017 14:28:05 GMT
I've just returned from a trip to Washington DC, attending several theatres. None had any security checks. This included going to both the opera house and the theatre in the Kennedy Center. There were plenty of security staff there, but my only interaction with them was offers of help if I looked like I was lost.
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Post by jek on Jul 25, 2017 7:27:11 GMT
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Post by michalnowicki on Jul 25, 2017 8:02:31 GMT
Thanks for sharing this! I'm studying Computing and IT and I often wonder about the connection between technology and theatre/art. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 8:26:46 GMT
As I predicted it was heightened security for a fortnight sharply tapered off to back how it used to be.
Let people relax and resume and this **** will occur again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 13:20:03 GMT
Exactly Monkey- I don't understand the mentality of living in a constant heightened and worried state. That does indeed mean they win. Of course our security and security services should constantly evolve, but as the Police, and broader emergency services have that should be in a way that the wider public aren't generally aware.
I'm always happy to have some more bag checks and security staff at a time or place there is a direct threat, but it's a waste of resources being in that state constantly, not to mention not being good for anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 16:35:44 GMT
Except that if we don't relax and resume, they win because they have forced us to go about our lives in fear of them. Yes, we need to stay vigilant, but in the way London Transport are now vigilant. Post 7/7 the security is there, but we don't see it. And it works, as that boy who built a home-made device found out. By all means make a show when we need to and risk is highest, but otherwise, sorry, remark, I don't agree at all. Maybe I didn't transcribe my point effectively. I agree with what your saying. Im not in any way referring to how our reactions are perceived by the perpetrators or the people who want us to be in a state of 'fear'. Sod that lot!  I'm talking about this side. Tightening security for a select amount of time and then letting go. Its a knee jerk reaction typical of todays society. Its immediately reacting and putting resources and policies in place, to then relax and forget about them, making (in my opinion) the initial reaction of vigilance a completely empty gesture. Move on to the next subject we're told to be concerned about. You make a good point in referencing London Transport and the 7/7 attacks. The response was long term and effective. It seems invisible but service users are - to an extent - safer. Whereas with this situation, we had an immediate response that was tapered off and now, personally I believe, we are not any safer. Was the only point in assigning extra resources to more security running bag checks and cordoned lines etc to make us feel safer for a few weeks? Relaxing these measures doesn't make us any safer now, we're just as much at risk as before, but just numb to the issue because we were made to feel safer for a short amount of time. As I perceive it, it means we've learnt nothing from this experience and as result thats a point to the enemy. |
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Post by michalnowicki on Jul 27, 2017 10:19:24 GMT
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jul 27, 2017 10:55:23 GMT
And that's just for the "reviews for pay" riots!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 15:13:13 GMT
Went to Hamlet (Andrew Scott) on 29th July - no bag search. Meanwhile at the RSC yesterday; bag search both prior to performance and returning after interval. (Ant & Cleo in case anyone wondering)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 15:39:59 GMT
RSC weren't doing bag searches when a lot of other venues were prior to May time incidents so looks like they have gone from one extreme to another.
I've known one ATG venue to do them and not another so policy doesn't seem to be uniform.
When they don't allow bags of a certain size in I wonder if any ladies with large handbags have had issues.
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Post by CG on the loose on Aug 13, 2017 15:54:37 GMT
When commuting to London I usually have a handbag plus a backpack with laptop, cables and general work 'stuff'. When I'm going to the theatre after work, I've taken to squeezing everything, including (admittedly minimal) overnight stuff when required, into the handbag (a fairly large Kipling bag) to try and avoid any issues - and so far, so good. It's been searched routinely - most diligently at Door 6 of the RAH a prom or two back - but mostly if I approach with bag held wide open and obscuring scarf removed in advance, I'm waved through with barely a glance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 19:17:09 GMT
I've had a quick search of my bag at every West End theatre I've been to recently. Managed to sneak a bacon butty into Bat Out of Hell by clutching it under my coat which I had draped over my arm too (surprised the smell didn't give me away, equally surprised I found a quiet enough corner to eat it in before taking my seat)! I just approach most theatres with my bag open and ready to go these days.
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