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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 11, 2017 12:34:56 GMT
On Thursday I will see The Frogs. Hurrah. I will have finally seen all of Sondheim's stage works. Or have I? I haven't seen the review Sondheim on Sondheim which he wrote 1 song for and therefore had a creative input. Other reviews are a collection of his songs picked by other people so in my view do not count.
What do people think of my 'dilemma'? I know on the old forum we discussed the complete works of Shakespeare and if you need to see Edward 111 and Cardenio etc to get the geeky badge of honour
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Post by joem on Mar 11, 2017 13:09:25 GMT
You have to see Sondheim on Sondheim. Sorry! I "completed" Shakespeare including the geeky ones but am agonising about whether I should boast about it not having seen "Sir Thomas More"?
My ambition is to see all Pinter, Rattigan and Ibsen but unless I learn Norwegian I am unlikely to manage the latter. And few of Pinter's early one-act and radio plays are staged these days (exceptions being The Room, The Dumb Waiter, The Collection and The Lover).
Good luck!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 13:50:08 GMT
There's also Sondheim's student works, By George, All That Glitters, Phinney's Rainbow, the original Frogs was also somewhat different. His contributions to things like The Mad Show and the multiple revisions of some shows means that you could search forever to have seen everything that he wrote!
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 11, 2017 14:19:52 GMT
CP I've eliminated By George as it does not have a performance license and so therefore impossible to see
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Post by mallardo on Mar 11, 2017 18:20:19 GMT
You've seen Saturday Night?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 18:35:54 GMT
You've seen Saturday Night? Not aimed at me, I think, but I saw the Bridewell production. I was sat next to Sheridan Morley and he dropped his pencil under the seat in front of him in the first few minutes. To be honest, that was the most memorable part of the evening, some flashes of the future Sondheim therein but a leaden book. |
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Post by Jan on Mar 11, 2017 19:02:55 GMT
You have to see Sondheim on Sondheim. Sorry! I "completed" Shakespeare including the geeky ones but am agonising about whether I should boast about it not having seen "Sir Thomas More"? My ambition is to see all Pinter, Rattigan and Ibsen but unless I learn Norwegian I am unlikely to manage the latter. And few of Pinter's early one-act and radio plays are staged these days (exceptions being The Room, The Dumb Waiter, The Collection and The Lover). Good luck! Ibsen is impossible, but I'm trying, I sat through the UK premiere of The Feast at Solhaug at Barons Court Theatre for example. I've seen Sir Thomas Moore, you have to include it, sorry. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 11, 2017 19:26:33 GMT
You've seen Saturday Night? Yep. Jermyn St Theatre |
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Post by martin1965 on Mar 11, 2017 19:26:55 GMT
You have to see Sondheim on Sondheim. Sorry! I "completed" Shakespeare including the geeky ones but am agonising about whether I should boast about it not having seen "Sir Thomas More"? My ambition is to see all Pinter, Rattigan and Ibsen but unless I learn Norwegian I am unlikely to manage the latter. And few of Pinter's early one-act and radio plays are staged these days (exceptions being The Room, The Dumb Waiter, The Collection and The Lover). Good luck! Ibsen is impossible, but I'm trying, I sat through the UK premiere of The Feast at Solhaug at Barons Court Theatre for example. I've seen Sir Thomas Moore, you have to include it, sorry. You do have to incude Thomas More. Im trying for Ibsen, Pinter and Miller but god its hard spesh with finite resources and no car! |
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Post by martin1965 on Mar 11, 2017 19:27:25 GMT
You've seen Saturday Night? Yep. Jermyn St Theatre Jealous😉 |
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Post by joem on Mar 11, 2017 21:36:11 GMT
You have to see Sondheim on Sondheim. Sorry! I "completed" Shakespeare including the geeky ones but am agonising about whether I should boast about it not having seen "Sir Thomas More"? My ambition is to see all Pinter, Rattigan and Ibsen but unless I learn Norwegian I am unlikely to manage the latter. And few of Pinter's early one-act and radio plays are staged these days (exceptions being The Room, The Dumb Waiter, The Collection and The Lover). Good luck! Ibsen is impossible, but I'm trying, I sat through the UK premiere of The Feast at Solhaug at Barons Court Theatre for example. I've seen Sir Thomas Moore, you have to include it, sorry. You win. I'll keep my eyes peeled for Sir Thomas!!! I saw that production of "The Feast" and "St John's Night" at Jerymn Street. But will we ever get the chance to see "Catiline"?!? |
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Post by Jan on Mar 12, 2017 10:59:35 GMT
Ibsen is impossible, but I'm trying, I sat through the UK premiere of The Feast at Solhaug at Barons Court Theatre for example. I've seen Sir Thomas Moore, you have to include it, sorry. You win. I'll keep my eyes peeled for Sir Thomas!!! I saw that production of "The Feast" and "St John's Night" at Jerymn Street. But will we ever get the chance to see "Catiline"?!? Did you see Love's Comedy @ Orange Tree ? Some fringe venues like the White Bear are well aware there's a market for these rarities, it is possible more will appear. |
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Post by joem on Mar 12, 2017 11:16:12 GMT
I missed it. I was mortified. When you have a rare opportunity to see one of those you have to take it and I didn't. Was it any good? Reading it, it feels slight but not totally tedious.
Yes, our hope lies with the fringe. The idea of Olaf Liljekrans at the National sounds a bit hollow.
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Post by theatremad on Mar 12, 2017 11:23:42 GMT
I've only achieved one writer's complete canon, and 'that's Shakespeare's, however living 3 miles from Stratford helps. Therefore I've done Thomas More, Cardenio, Edward III, Two Noble Kinsmen. Deffo hardest is Henry VIII but I've managed 3 in the last 19 years. I'm even sadder and seen the main canon at least twice now.
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Post by Jan on Mar 12, 2017 11:24:41 GMT
I missed it. I was mortified. When you have a rare opportunity to see one of those you have to take it and I didn't. Was it any good? Reading it, it feels slight but not totally tedious. Yes, our hope lies with the fringe. The idea of Olaf Liljekrans at the National sounds a bit hollow. It was quite good actually and genuinely amusing. The problem at NT is classical revivals are now confined to their large stages so there is no hope of them ever staging anything other than the popular mainstream plays. |
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Post by joem on Mar 12, 2017 11:25:59 GMT
How do we feel about Arden of Faversham? Is it now definitely in the Shakspear canon?
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Post by Jan on Mar 12, 2017 11:28:06 GMT
I've only achieved one writer's complete canon, and 'that's Shakespeare's, however living 3 miles from Stratford helps. Therefore I've done Thomas More, Cardenio, Edward III, Two Noble Kinsmen. Deffo hardest is Henry VIII but I've managed 3 in the last 19 years. I'm even sadder and seen the main canon at least twice now. Yes Henry VIII is tricky. I've seen 2 and failed to get tickets for that one they did in a church. If I see 2 productions of it then I complete 4 cycles of the main canon. For Marlowe I'm waiting for Massacre at Paris. |
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Post by theatremad on Mar 12, 2017 11:29:45 GMT
How do we feel about Arden of Faversham? Is it now definitely in the Shakspear canon? Debatable, a good play but I didn't feel Shakespeare in it. |
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Post by Jan on Mar 12, 2017 11:30:50 GMT
How do we feel about Arden of Faversham? Is it now definitely in the Shakspear canon? It's Out. But I've seen it anyway. Likewise Yorkshire Tragedy, also Out but I've seen it just in case. |
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Post by theatremad on Mar 12, 2017 11:32:26 GMT
I've only achieved one writer's complete canon, and 'that's Shakespeare's, however living 3 miles from Stratford helps. Therefore I've done Thomas More, Cardenio, Edward III, Two Noble Kinsmen. Deffo hardest is Henry VIII but I've managed 3 in the last 19 years. I'm even sadder and seen the main canon at least twice now. Yes Henry VIII is tricky. I've seen 2 and failed to get tickets for that one they did in a church. If I see 2 productions of it then I complete 4 cycles of the main canon. For Marlowe I'm waiting for Massacre at Paris. I was lucky enough to see Greg Doran's in 1997, the church one in 2006 and then I also saw the Globe theatre one. Off the top of my head I need another All's Well and Pericles to complete my 3rd round. |
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Post by lynette on Mar 12, 2017 11:38:38 GMT
I know I've seen em all but I don't know how many times. I think All's Well only a couple of times.
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Post by joem on Mar 12, 2017 11:50:21 GMT
I'm happy with seeing it once. Although happy to see them again on an ad hoc basis without feeling the need to complete a second round.
Massacre at Paris was done (quite decently) at the the Rose Playhouse Bankside a couple of years ago. A very atmospheric venue, in need of investment.
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Post by Jan on Mar 12, 2017 12:29:52 GMT
Yes Henry VIII is tricky. I've seen 2 and failed to get tickets for that one they did in a church. If I see 2 productions of it then I complete 4 cycles of the main canon. For Marlowe I'm waiting for Massacre at Paris. I was lucky enough to see Greg Doran's in 1997, the church one in 2006 and then I also saw the Globe theatre one. Off the top of my head I need another All's Well and Pericles to complete my 3rd round. I saw the Howard Davies/Richard Griffiths Henry VIII done as a Brechtian production. Very good. Also the Doran one which wasn't as good. Billington says the church one is the best he's seen. |
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Post by theatremad on Mar 12, 2017 14:02:57 GMT
I was lucky enough to see Greg Doran's in 1997, the church one in 2006 and then I also saw the Globe theatre one. Off the top of my head I need another All's Well and Pericles to complete my 3rd round. I saw the Howard Davies/Richard Griffiths Henry VIII done as a Brechtian production. Very good. Also the Doran one which wasn't as good. Billington says the church one is the best he's seen. Church one was by far the best. Deffo helped by being so close to the action. Remember being passed evidence in the trial of Wolsey and then having the baby Elizabeth right in front of us. Stunning show and acting was top notch |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 14:28:47 GMT
Billington says the church one is the best he's seen. Not jonathan. |
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