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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 17:30:25 GMT
Of those nominees, I would go for:
Musicals
John McCrea
Josie Walker
Ross Noble
Lesley Joseph
Play
Andrew Garfield
Audra McDonald
James McArdle
Imogen Poots
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Post by andromedadench on Mar 6, 2018 18:00:57 GMT
Really glad Lesley Joseph has been nominated for YF, I thought she was brilliant. But where's Clare Halse, indeed?
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Post by Polly1 on Mar 6, 2018 18:32:26 GMT
Odd that Ciaran Hinds is nominated for Best Actor in a Musical, in which he doesn't sing, and Audra for Best Actress in a Play where she spends a lot of time singing ...
Gutted for Conleth Hill, he woz robbed.
No nom for Victoria Hamilton, despite her winning the Critic's Circle award. Mind you, I think Tamsin Greig deserved a nom more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 18:58:08 GMT
It would of been interesting, had Girl From North Country been considered play as initally listed, who would take the places of their three perfomers. One of the lead males from Follies I'd imagine, and probably Rachelle Ann Go and Clare Halse in their respective catagories.
In honesty, I disn't really think that Supporting Actress from North Country did anything special, and I can't even remember their nominated Actor. Shirley's nomination however is totally deserved, shes the star of that show!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 19:09:26 GMT
With Angels in America now on Broadway it will be interesting to see how its nominations differ, Maybe Nathan Lane stands a better chance of being nominated there. I think the only reason Lane did Angels in London was to get a Tony for it on Broadway so I wouldn't like to be within earshot if he doesn't  |
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 6, 2018 19:14:52 GMT
Glad that Ross Noble, Imedia Staunton and John McCrea got what they deserved, also Paddy Considine and Jaime McArdle.
Surprised that Nathan Lane and Richard Coyle were properly stitched. Also thought there would be more noms for Bat Out of Hell.
Also pleased for Marianne Elliot and the Angels.
Was there really only 3 revivals last year?
Hamilton can only win 10 Oliviers.
Say this every year, so might as well say it again, but don’t understand why they conflate the creative awards for play and musical. Also ditch the Opera and Ballet awards, no objections though if the Oliviers did separate awards for this on a seperate evening.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 6, 2018 19:44:21 GMT
Since no-one else seems to have mentioned it: impressive to see Mischief Theatre get their 4th nomination in a row. Though goodness only knows how the voters are supposed to compare an improv show to 3 scripted pieces.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 19:53:40 GMT
I reckon Ross Noble will cancel out the Hamilton boys in that Supporting Actor In A Musical category - Cleve was good, though surprised he was nominated over George Washington. I think most people leave remembering Michael Jibson's performance though!
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Post by The Lost on Mar 6, 2018 20:03:12 GMT
This was a really weak year for nominations I thought. Young Frankenstein didn't deserve anything, I'm sorry but it didn't, and there are far too many acting nominations for Hamilton, a show in which only Jamael, Giles and Rachel honestly gave performances that were anything more than adequate. Clare Halse obviously should have got one for 42nd Street, and 42nd Street should have got Set Design. Bat Out of Hell deserved a Set Design nomination too but I can see why it'd miss out as Set Design is the only genuinely very tight category.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 21:33:54 GMT
Just picked up on two more egregious omissions, one predictable, the other unfathomable. The predictable one being Anatomy of a Suicide for best play (too difficult, a play about journalists being more to voters’ liking), the unfathomable one being Romantics Anonymous for best new musical, which could have replaced most of the nominees. I’d also have put Carly Bawden in best actress in a musical but more difficult to find a place.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 22:59:19 GMT
I am so happy about Rachel john
confused about Rachel Ann Go
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 23:01:20 GMT
I reckon Ross Noble will cancel out the Hamilton boys in that Supporting Actor In A Musical category - Cleve was good, though surprised he was nominated over George Washington. I think most people leave remembering Michael Jibson's performance though! I did not see Groff. But saw the book of mormon guy. I know he got a tony award. name escapes me sorry. he was really good and if he originated it he would have been nominated. |
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Post by lonlad on Mar 6, 2018 23:45:44 GMT
The Olivier noms really are beyond the pale these days. The producers who bleat the loudest (and are the best connected) get the noms. On the evidence of this list you'd think HAMILTON, FOLLIES, and THE FERRYMAN were more or less the only shows that played London all season. Don't get me started on the list of omissions which, to start with, would include David Seadon-Young, Clare Halse, Conleth Hill, Andrew Polec, Tamsin Greig (twice), etc etc etc --- and how Ciaran Hinds got a nom and Quast and Forbes didn't is VERY strange, however much one likes the idea of spreading the wealth. Oh well, not worth worrying about. Their credibility vanished ages ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 23:58:10 GMT
The Olivier noms really are beyond the pale these days. The producers who bleat the loudest (and are the best connected) get the noms. On the evidence of this list you'd think HAMILTON, FOLLIES, and THE FERRYMAN were more or less the only shows that played London all season. Don't get me started on the list of omissions which, to start with, would include David Seadon-Young, Clare Halse, Conleth Hill, Andrew Polec, Tamsin Greig (twice), etc etc etc --- and how Ciaran Hinds got a nom and Quast and Forbes didn't is VERY strange, however much one likes the idea of spreading the wealth. Oh well, not worth worrying about. Their credibility vanished ages ago. so true!!! Hamilton tbh is a great show. And deserves most of those noms. Some of them are baffling. As are some of the omissions for Hamilton. Some of the non nominees make more sense than the nominees. In all fairness ferryman is too a good show. but I have always found them to be weird |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 0:06:42 GMT
I am so happy about Rachel john confused about Rachel Ann Go Rachelle was no more than average when I saw it and her diction was poor. She's improved a lot since then but as far as I'm concerned she didn't deserve a nomination. Rachel, on the other hand, stole the show. I'll be surprised if she wins though. Delighted if she does, but I won't be expecting it even though I think the Imelda vote will be split... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 0:11:03 GMT
The Olivier noms really are beyond the pale these days. The producers who bleat the loudest (and are the best connected) get the noms. On the evidence of this list you'd think HAMILTON, FOLLIES, and THE FERRYMAN were more or less the only shows that played London all season. Don't get me started on the list of omissions which, to start with, would include David Seadon-Young, Clare Halse, Conleth Hill, Andrew Polec, Tamsin Greig (twice), etc etc etc --- and how Ciaran Hinds got a nom and Quast and Forbes didn't is VERY strange, however much one likes the idea of spreading the wealth. Oh well, not worth worrying about. Their credibility vanished ages ago. Olivier nominations are a lot more credible than what the Standard and WOS nominations throw up. In a strong year there are always going to be omissions. |
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 7, 2018 0:17:22 GMT
Prediction - Hamilton will win virtually everything!
I do hope John McCrea wins for Jamie but he's up against Giles and Jamael (head to head) in Hamilton - we shall see. It is SO subjective - I may have to lie down in a darkened room to calm down!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 0:22:08 GMT
42nd Street really doesn't have much of a set. It has a few flat backdrops and a huge staircase at the end. And because of that staircase and big production number you come out thinking how amazing it was. But that staircase has been in EVERY production of 42nd Street that has ever existed, so there's really nothing new or innovative about it. People who are only seeing for the first time might think it's amazing, but it's all been done before.
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 7, 2018 11:19:22 GMT
I think its a good set of noms. And fairly evenly spread - in the fact that everything that deserved things got things (although some omissions)
Surprised Imelda was nominated for Follies - she was my least favourite of the 4 leads, which leads me to say WHY ON EARTH WASNT QUAST NOMINATED?!
I think/hope Giles will win best actor - I thought he was sensational. Jamael is serviceable in my opinion, and plays the part well, but I wasn't bowled over. Rachel John I'm thrilled for, but Tracie Bennett needs to win that category... And Rachelle Ann was never going to get nominated. She sings like a dream - with some peculair diction at times, but shes no actress (dont get me wrong, I love her, but there was no way).
The one I'm msot baffled by was Clare Halse not getting a nomination! 42nd Street deserved more than it got I think, but Clare not getting nominated was a travesty! And I also think Conleth Hill should have been for Virginia Woolf, but that best actor category is hard enough without putting him in the mix!
Follies, Hamilton and Angels in America all doing well with noms has pleased me, as they were my favourite 3 things of last year.
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Post by bellboard27 on Mar 7, 2018 13:08:48 GMT
For all the dodgy nominations and missed nominations, the one I was most pleasantly surprised to see was La Boheme at Trafalgar Studios 2. A good show that could so easily have been over-shadowed by bigger productions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 13:17:22 GMT
Hamilton will win big but I don't know if it will take as many awards as some are expecting. It can only win 10 awards. There is a chance, because the two lead males got great reviews, they cancel eachother out and John McCrea wins. And votes are gonna split between those three Supporting Actors as evidenced by their nominations, there is passion for all three. I'd guess Jason will win, but I can see Ross winning over all three. Costumes is a tricky one, but if they are gonna give 42nd Street an award that may be it, as they have about 10 costumes per person, they are all stunning and really bright and have wow factor. And Choreography too is a tricky one as Hamilton is movement all the way through, as is American in Paris, but 42nd Street is big numbers, so it depends really what is preferred.
I don't imagine it is going to be a clear sweep for Hamilton this year, but I imagine it will match Matilda's record of most wins for a musical.
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Post by sf on Mar 7, 2018 14:49:49 GMT
Just picked up on two more egregious omissions... the unfathomable one being Romantics Anonymous for best new musical, which could have replaced most of the nominees. I’d also have put Carly Bawden in best actress in a musical but more difficult to find a place. For some reason I'd assumed it wasn't eligible, but I was mistaken. Yes, absolutely, and I could also have made a good case for a nomination for Dominic Marsh in place of Ciaran Hinds. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 15:08:00 GMT
Hamilton will win big but I don't know if it will take as many awards as some are expecting. It can only win 10 awards. There is a chance, because the two lead males got great reviews, they cancel eachother out and John McCrea wins. And votes are gonna split between those three Supporting Actors as evidenced by their nominations, there is passion for all three. I'd guess Jason will win, but I can see Ross winning over all three. Costumes is a tricky one, but if they are gonna give 42nd Street an award that may be it, as they have about 10 costumes per person, they are all stunning and really bright and have wow factor. And Choreography too is a tricky one as Hamilton is movement all the way through, as is American in Paris, but 42nd Street is big numbers, so it depends really what is preferred. I don't imagine it is going to be a clear sweep for Hamilton this year, but I imagine it will match Matilda's record of most wins for a musical. Going through them last night I had Hamilton at six, so just short of Matilda; with a fair wind I think it's quite likely to match it, though. I think it may miss out on Best Director (an absolutely stacked category), Best Sound Design (a toss up with Network but the clarity of Hamilton is no mean feat across the auditorium and at that volume), Lighting Design (similarly with Network, which is much showier) and Best Actress in a Supporting Role (Atim or maybe Bennett but Bennett has a song and barely any lines, maybe less than ten). |
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