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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 9, 2017 20:27:48 GMT
I thought we already had a thread on this but can't find it so starting a new one. Maybe it was on the old board or something.
I am strongly considering making my first ever visit to the US this year (this may not be unconnected with a certain theatre group going to Broadway next month!). While organising travel is something I find easy, I am useless on the accommodation side of things so thought I would see if anyone has any advice, as I know some of you visit the US regularly. We are looking at going for the first 2 weeks of May and spending a few days each in Boston, Washington & New York.
While in New York I obviously hope to visit the theatre a few times but my mother is worried about safety. So, firstly, any opinions on how safe New York is at night after the theatre? Would I be safe to go round on my own or would I need to be met by the rest of the party? What is the subway like? I have no problems getting the tube in London on my own so is the subway the same or not?
Secondly, does anyone have any hotel reccommendations? Ideally somewhere fairly near Broadway but not stonkingly expensive.
Any general advice on visting the US would also be appreciated & I daresay I will be asking more questions over time.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by infofreako on Feb 9, 2017 20:34:24 GMT
I will be watching this with interest. I went to new York last summer but it cost way too much as it was all last minute
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 20:42:44 GMT
I love New York! After London it's probably one of my favourite cities in the world I find getting the subway at night in New York (or even just walking around) much the same as getting the underground post-theatre in London. There will always be people around - New York is called the city that never sleeps for a reason. Plus most of the theatres are close to Times Square, where there are both tourists and police officers basically 24/7. I've walked 20 blocks from a Broadway theatre to my hotel alone at midnight without any trouble whatsoever. And a few years ago I wandered around the fringes of Manhattan on my own as a 22 year old woman trying to find a particular club where friends were without any issues either. I think it's like any other major city - if you're sensible and keep alert, you will be fine, and if you need to then you can just hail a cab. I doubt I'll be much help as far as accommodation is concerned - the Sheraton on 51st street is in a great location but was only affordable for me because 4 of us shared a room on conference rates. Last time I went I stayed in a hostel in Midtown which was fine, but not everyone can deal with shared dormitories, and next time I go I'll probably get a private room. Don't restrict yourself to hotels close to Times Square though, it's really easy and quick to get the subway down towards Brooklyn Bridge or uptown towards Central Park, where hotels can be a little bit cheaper. All depends on budget I guess.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Feb 9, 2017 20:49:40 GMT
I've always felt safe walking around New York... but wife has always been there to protect me
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Post by Steffi on Feb 9, 2017 20:52:06 GMT
In terms of safety I have never had concerns in New York. And I have walked around Chelsea and Midtown on my own in the middle of the night a lot. Yes, you might get the odd guy making a random comment as you pass but that's easy to ignore. Generally I find New Yorkers to be a friendly bunch. You walk into a Deli late at night to grab some food on the go and will often end up having a random but super nice little chat with fellow customers. It's one of the reasons I love New York - from my experience the people are just very open and nice and I have always felt save being out on my own.
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Post by callum on Feb 9, 2017 20:59:42 GMT
Walking around Broadway at night will be fine, as long as it's not too late. I was there last summer and booked ahead for the shows that I knew I definitely wanted to see (Long Day's Journey with Jessica Lange) but just went to tkts for the others (She Loves Me, The Colour Purple...). Subway is fairly similar to the tube only don't make the mistake of treating the colours on the map like they are a 'line' as it were - there are A-trains, B-trains C-trains etc, some of which run on the same tracks; next to each station on the subway map will tell you which train stops where. Although NYC travelling might be a tad more complicated, walking is a million times easier than London, just walk along/across the different blocks to be where you need to.
I was a solo traveller so found a good deal in The Jane Hotel in Greenwich Village, perhaps their other rooms will be good value, too. Near there was a great restaurant called Perry Street, which I liked. On a previous trip I went to Washington DC just for the day on the Amtrak, I found there was adequate time to see the Capitol/Washington Monument/Lincoln Memorial/White House etc as well as visiting a couple of Smithsonian museums. If you just want to cover the basic sights, perhaps consider treating NYC as a base from which to travel to Washington and Boston - although obviously if you want to see more than the general tourist spots, ignore this tip!
You needn't be too worried about safety. You shouldn't have trouble walking around Broadway/Times Square before 1am, every major city is scary to an extent but just use common sense. I often think of it as London on steroids - it's a wild place but you'll have a great time!
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Post by viserys on Feb 9, 2017 21:15:48 GMT
I agree, I feel New York is super safe. Times Square is crowded with tourists even in the late evenings (after the shows end) and I find the subway very easy and safe, too. I usually stay with a friend outside the city and when we take a Metro North train from Grand Central after the shows, I find the trains are always crammed to the last seat with late commuters, theatre-goers, diners, etc.
My favorite story from New York: Once I was supposed to meet another friend up in Washington Heights (yup, in the Heights). She lived across the river in New Jersey, but wanted to meet me at the subway station and we'd take a bus from there. Except I was very late after the endless immigration stuff at JFK and she wasn't at the meeting point. So I stood there, a very obvious tourist with a big suitcase and had no idea how to get to New Jersey. Regular cabs don't go there. But the Latinos in the deli by the subway station were super friendly and helpful and someone rustled a private cab up whose driver had a satnav and was willing to take me to New Jersey to my friend's place. I still think fondly of that time when I was in a slightly iffy area, a very easy target for a mugging and instead found lovely helpful people.
I can't help with hotels really, on the rare occasions I travelled with company we used the Milford Plaza, but that was before the renovations, so I assume their prices have gone from "ugh, okay" to "no effing way" by now.
Washington is quite a nice place, but don't underestimate the humidity there, it was built into a swamp after all. Haven't been to Boston yet.
What I love? American breakfasts with eggs, toast, hash browns, waffles, pancakes and so on. They're a delight and they fill you up for the entire day to come. Just avoid the scales for a while when you come back.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 9, 2017 21:41:00 GMT
While in New York I obviously hope to visit the theatre a few times but my mother is worried about safety. So, firstly, any opinions on how safe New York is at night after the theatre? Would I be safe to go round on my own or would I need to be met by the rest of the party? What is the subway like? I have no problems getting the tube in London on my own so is the subway the same or not? I used to live two blocks from the August Wilson Theatre. I've never been in a major city where I felt MORE safe walking home (or to wherever I was sleeping) from a show than in New York City. Currently, I live in Queens, which from where I am, on a good day means I can get into midtown Manhattan in about 20 minutes on the subway. When you're leaving a theatre, know that in the span of about half an hour (allowing for run times), there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people within a 2-block radius doing the same thing. You're surrounded by other tourists as well as locals. Not only that, the theatres around here are all on a flat grid, unlike the West End. You won't get too easily lost. If your mom has the idea that NYC of right now resembles 1980s action movies, just tell her that's far from reality. My parents, who have lived in California pretty much 99% of their lives, hadn't ever visited until 10 years ago and didn't ride the subway until last summer. They kept remarking how clean and safe it was, how clear the announcements and signage was, and how smoothly everything went. One thing I do want to note is that at any point you're here this year, there could be a protest going on, but if it is, it likely won't be anywhere super close to Times Square. Probably closer to 55th Street and 5th Avenue, where a certain guy lives some of the time. And if it does go through or past Times Square, there will likely be police escorts and/or it won't seriously impede your journey.
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 9, 2017 22:08:48 GMT
Feb 9, 2017 21:15:48 GMT viserys said: Washington is quite a nice place, but don't underestimate the humidity there, it was built into a swamp after all. Haven't been to Boston yet. Oh dear, that doesn't sound great about Washington. I hate hot weather, hence looking at the first half of May in the hope it wouldn't be too hot at that time. Thank you for all the replies so far. It sounds like, as I thought, walking around post-theatre will be okay. My mother's only previous visit to New York was in 1981. I have told her that I understand New York is much safer now than it was then. Thanks for the hotel suggestions. I will look those hotels up.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 9, 2017 22:17:41 GMT
DC is extremely humid in the summer. I've only been there in the summer once, for a friend's wedding (that was July or August), but in May should be okay. Probably hotter than you're used to, but not hot enough to make it unbearable or give you swampy armpits.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 22:18:41 GMT
I feel far safer in Manhatten than London so I wouldn't worry.
Boston is a brilliant city, love it. quite compact and easy to get around. feels quite European. Lots of day trip options to explore new England too
Washington is a funny one. quite spread out and lacks a heart. The centre is very focused on tourist sights and business/government and dies in the early evening. Somewhere like Georgetown has more going on in terms of restaurants etc in evening. Depends what your priority is in terms of what you want on your doorstep
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Post by lucyhoneychurch on Feb 9, 2017 22:19:48 GMT
Welcome! To echo a previous poster, consider staying outside Times Square where you might find a better hotel rate and would only be a 10 minute subway ride from the theaters. Almost all of the subway lines come into the Times Square/42nd St station.
For the subway, it's very safe, just use common sense. As someone mentioned, the map itself can be confusing. Also note that after midnight express trains will run local. And on the weekends there are a lot of service changes. It can get confusing but don't be afraid to ask the other riders.
I would recommend taking the Amtrak train between Boston, NYC and DC. It's not a pretty ride, except for when it travels along the coast in Rhode Island. But getting to and from the airports in NYC on public transit is oddly very difficult. Unlike London, there's not a direct subway line (you have to transfer to the Airtrain) and a cab can be expensive and time consuming.
When buying theater tickets, do not use Broadway.com. They are brokers disguised as official sellers. You'll pay twice your ticket price in fees. Almost all theaters sell through Ticketmaster and Telecharge (and some nonprofits have their own systems). You can find discount codes on playbill.com and theatremania.com
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 9, 2017 22:22:00 GMT
I hadn't thought about that re: DC/NYC, but yes, I totally recommend Amtrak. I usually take MegaBus or Bolt Bus, but Amtrak is worth the price if it's not something you do regularly. Very smooth and comfortable. The Georgetown part of DC is much more interesting than the part near the Capitol/Union Station (where Amtrak and the buses drop you off)/etc, but I highly recommend the Newseum if you're going. www.newseum.org/visit/tickets/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 22:28:21 GMT
I've taken the bus between DC and New York and suspect I'd have been happier on the train. I think there's enough in DC to keep a tourist occupied for a couple of days, but it is quiet in the evenings and if I'd been alone I think I'd probably have been bored after 2 days. As far as weather goes, I was there in May last year and it was extremely wet - cold when it was raining but warmed up quickly when it stopped, probably ended up in the low to mid-20s.
Boston is still on my to-do list but I've heard good things.
I disagree that JFK is difficult to get to - as a tourist I found it really simple - subway to Jamaica and then straight on the Air Train, which is signposted and easy to find. The only annoying thing about getting to JFK on public transport is that the New York subway is so much worse than the London Underground for accessibility - no escalators at all, and getting a heavy suitcase down the stairs into the station then more stairs onto the platform is not fun! Most of the stairs can be avoided by getting the subway from Penn Station to JFK, if you pick the right entrance, but getting through the ticket barriers is still a feat. And New York subway tickets are really flimsy compared to Oyster cards!
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Post by steve10086 on Feb 9, 2017 22:49:25 GMT
Don't look like a Muslim!
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Post by kathryn on Feb 9, 2017 22:59:24 GMT
Last time I stayed at the Staybridge Suites near Times Square, and the Hampton Inn just around the corner. Preferred the Staybridge.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 0:16:57 GMT
I also found New York to be one of the safest cities I've ever been too. I went with a friend, but as we both had different interests, we spent about 50% of the time apart. We would do all the touristy stuff, Statue of liberty etc during the day, then I would go to the theatre at night while she went around taking photos for her uni project.
We stayed at the Empire Hotel across the street from Lincoln Centre...we booked it way in advance so good a really good deal on booking.com. And its only a 10 minute walk from Times Square/Broadway.
Also thought everyone was very friendly. I was only there for a week, but I strangly ended up on first name terms with a couple of members of staff in the Duane Reade next to the hotel (they loved my accent apparently, and I was there over St Patricks Day so it excited them lol).
I did take me a few of days to get used to the subway, for the first 2 days I constantly found myself asking the same questions to nearly every person that worked on the Subway. But managed to figure it out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 1:37:10 GMT
As per others, Manhattan is fine to walk around at night. There are also a plentiful number of taxis that you can hail if you need to. The most hassle you get is immigration where they always seem to begrudge you wanting to visit their country. I gave up even trying to be friendly ages ago. That may well be even worse now. I always go in winter as I don't like heat and humidity, Christmas is always nice and you can go to the Radio City Christmas show, which everyone should see once in their life.
Boston is lovely, plenty of history around too, Paul Revere's house and such. The centre good for shopping, dining and such. Going across the river to Cambridge and having a look round MIT is an option, that's also where the American Repertory Theatre is. I stayed a bit further out in a bed and breakfast, reasonable prices and transport is easy into the centre.
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Post by mistressjojo on Feb 10, 2017 2:30:49 GMT
I echo everyone else in saying NYC is probably the safest it's been in years. I started visiting in the 80's , and that was a different much scarier place. Now, the subway is for the most part clean and efficient, and rarely will you find yourself alone in a car. Times Square was cleaned up and pedestrianized and now it's like midday all night, the amount of lights going on and the crowds that never seem to go home.
Don't limit yourself to hotels in mid-town ( unless mobility is a factor for you). You can often find a better deal across the river in Brooklyn or Queens and still be only a few stops on the subway from Times Square and the theatre district.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 10, 2017 6:22:43 GMT
I disagree that JFK is difficult to get to - as a tourist I found it really simple - subway to Jamaica and then straight on the Air Train, which is signposted and easy to find. The only annoying thing about getting to JFK on public transport is that the New York subway is so much worse than the London Underground for accessibility - no escalators at all, and getting a heavy suitcase down the stairs into the station then more stairs onto the platform is not fun! Most of the stairs can be avoided by getting the subway from Penn Station to JFK, if you pick the right entrance, but getting through the ticket barriers is still a feat. And New York subway tickets are really flimsy compared to Oyster cards! I was last at JFK for the protest at the international terminal a couple weeks ago, but from what I remember, there is an elevator at JFK -- you just need to walk toward the entrance to the Long Island Railroad. (I live near LaGuardia so I use that airport much more often.) For the stairs to the subway platform itself after you swipe, though, you may be out of luck. The East Coast infrastructure is much less accessible than the newer West Coast. Your trains may run less often and not all hours of the night, but you'll probably have an easier time with luggage and/or a wheelchair.
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Post by Michael on Feb 10, 2017 6:24:24 GMT
I love New York! After London it's probably one of my favourite cities in the world This. And Vancouver. And San Francisco. And San Diego I disagree that JFK is difficult to get to - as a tourist I found it really simple - subway to Jamaica and then straight on the Air Train, which is signposted and easy to find. Agree. It's pretty straigtforward to get to JFK, but if you're in Lower Manhattan/Brooklyn, taking the A train to Howard Beach might be the better (and faster) alternative than taking the E train to Jamaica. I hadn't thought about that re: DC/NYC, but yes, I totally recommend Amtrak. I usually take MegaBus or Bolt Bus, but Amtrak is worth the price if it's not something you do regularly. Very smooth and comfortable. I'd always fly - even if it were more expensive and took longer. Also, flying into DCA might give you great views on The Mall during the final approach. I was there last summer and booked ahead for the shows that I knew I definitely wanted to see (Long Day's Journey with Jessica Lange) but just went to tkts for the others (She Loves Me, The Colour Purple...). I'd recommend the same. Prebook the shows you definitely want to see (if they don't do general rush, if they did, I'd schedule my shows around those to be able to get one rush ticket per day) on their official site (usually, that's either Ticketmaster or Telecharge) and get the rest from TKTS. However, the one at Times Square is usually terribly busy and only sells same day Matinee tickets from noon and same day Evening tickets from the afternoon, so I always go down to their South Side/Seaport branch, who sell same day Evening and next day Matinee tickets right when they open. However, tickets can still be pretty expensive even if they're offered at a huge discount. Ten days ago, my 50% discounted ticket to In Transit was still a whopping $80. spending a few days each in Boston, Washington & New York. How about booking an open jaw flight, i.e. flying into one of these cities and returning from another? So, firstly, any opinions on how safe New York is at night after the theatre? I never felt unsafe in NY. Secondly, does anyone have any hotel reccommendations? Ideally somewhere fairly near Broadway but not stonkingly expensive. Hotel prices do vary pretty much. Been to New York mid December and struggled to find a hotel below $200 (eventually, I found one near the Wall Street), and when I returned two weeks ago I stayed at one at 42nd&Broadway for $110. If central hotels are too expensive and if you don't mind travelling every day, looking across the Hudson in New Jersey might be an alternative, maybe even around Newark Penn from where you can take the PATH with your MTA card. I can highly recommend visiting the 9/11 museum, but you should prebook your tickets online. Same for the Statue of Liberty. However, if you don't want to visit Lady Liberty and just want to see her, taking the Staten Island Ferry might be a good alternative as it offers you great views of the statue - and Manhattan. You should also put Walking Along the Highline Park on your list.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 6:39:09 GMT
Top tips for saving money on theatre tickets -
- sign up at playbill.com and broadwaybox, they have discount codes for many shows which you'll be able to book in advance - the tkts site and app will show you daily what shows are discounted, so keep an eye on this in the run up to your trip to get an idea of what will be on while you are out there - consider seeing off-broadway stuff too, will be a lot cheaper, may be discounted as well, and if you're lucky you'll see the next "Play that goes wrong" or "Hamilton"!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 7:05:45 GMT
I'm not sure if New York actually is safer than London but it certainly feels that way when you're there. Although there's a lot more colourful people, but that's part of the charm!
Best city in the world, enjoy.
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Post by Jan on Feb 10, 2017 7:37:29 GMT
Don't look like a Muslim! I bet I am the only person on here who has been denied entry to USA, stuck back on the same flight I arrived on escorted by a law officer (under the Obama regime). They confiscate your passport and don't allow the cabin staff to give it back to you till the plane has cleared USA airspace.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 8:09:42 GMT
Don't look like a Muslim! And the award for most unhelpful post goes to...
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