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Post by d'James on Sept 6, 2017 14:38:00 GMT
She is just the sort of person who would sadly attract a lot of twitter trolls if she became mainstream famous. We joke about getting a reaction from her on here but others would do it and it wouldn't be subtle. Yeah, but she'd get justification from the people she thinks matter, so what's the problem?! |
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Post by stageyninja83 on Oct 19, 2017 17:33:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 18:31:53 GMT
I'm too lazy to google on behalf of Ms E but weren't the Color Purple reviews in London...good?
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Post by talkstageytome on Oct 19, 2017 20:08:13 GMT
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Post by daniel on Oct 19, 2017 23:46:23 GMT
Do we think that the UK is afraid to see a group of black people on stage?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 0:16:12 GMT
So basically what she's saying is she doesn't care about what the sold-out audiences thought of her performance in London, all that matters is whether every single critic gives her love. Says a lot about her really, doesn't it?
She's clearly also not aware of the fact that we currently have a very successful production of Dreamgirls running and New York doesn't, as well as an all-black cast of Guys and Dolls announced, both of which make her comments look a bit strange to say the least...
All I care about in theatre is seeing people who are good at their jobs, which is something that has nothing to do with race, colour or any type of creed. I suspect I'm not too far off in assuming most theatregoers would agree with me...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 7:51:42 GMT
Well surely 3/4 * reviews for something that is for obvious reasons a bit more of a challenging watch than say 42nd Street a pretty good show? The Color Purple as an actual musical isn't the greatest written piece of work on the planet, but Doyle's direction and the cast turned it into something better than it was (in my opinion, if that makes sense).
ANYWAY I as an actor would consider a crop of 3/4 star reviews a decent success? it's not like she'd been in a constant run of 5* shows until then so surely she knows a) such things are relative b) critics aren't everything. The show either sold out or damn close to it in London and got amazing audience feedback...so quite your complaining Miss E.
As for 'is the UK afraid of Black people' ....Serious answer no. We have a serious lack of diversity on stage in a lot of instances/overall but I think that's a fault of producers, directors etc not a fault of audiences, there's no evidence that people shy away from any shows that have BAME casts. And it makes me angry that she's directing her (justified) anger at a lack of parts etc at the wrong place. Audiences aren't getting a chance to see enough Black actors on stage, that's the fault of the people in charge, we can only 'vote with our feet' and see Black actors when they are on stage, so I think Miss E needs to have a rant about people not being put on stage instead of accusing the whole theatre audiences of the uk of being a bunch of racists (there are of course racists there but we aren't all racist)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 13:46:07 GMT
"No one knew what to do with me in the UK".
What a surprise. I think the main reason why she feels better in the US is because Americans are very skilled at putting up with divas.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 14:57:16 GMT
"No one knew what to do with me in the UK". The fact that she prefers being in the US suggests that we knew exactly what to do with her, and it worked. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 14:59:22 GMT
"No one knew what to do with me in the UK". The fact that she prefers being in the US suggests that we knew exactly what to do with her, and it worked. The trouble is they might eventually send her BACK. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 15:04:28 GMT
The fact that she prefers being in the US suggests that we knew exactly what to do with her, and it worked. The trouble is they might eventually send her BACK. Who's up for a game of Diva Tennis? |
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Post by musicalmarge on Nov 1, 2017 7:40:04 GMT
Do we think that the UK is afraid to see a group of black people on stage? Dreamgirls, 5 Guys Named Mo, Mowtown, Hamilton, Lion King and the new Guys and Dolls at the Manchester Royal Exhange? Hm... |
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Post by daniel on Nov 1, 2017 9:22:26 GMT
Do we think that the UK is afraid to see a group of black people on stage? Dreamgirls, 5 Guys Named Mo, Mowtown, Hamilton, Lion King and the new Guys and Dolls at the Manchester Royal Exhange? Hm... that's exactly my point! |
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Post by raiseitup on Nov 2, 2017 22:26:56 GMT
Namecheck! I always thought the first rule of Theatreboard is you do not talk about Theatreboard  – |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 10:27:43 GMT
Um, what the hell did this guy do wrong???
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Post by shady23 on Dec 17, 2017 12:16:36 GMT
She's ranting about Alexandra Burke now. How dare people not like her. It must be because she is black. Ridiculous.
I used to be a fan of Cynthia. I am not now.
Nothing to do with her colour. It's because she comes across as such an arrogant and confrontational person.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 12:23:06 GMT
... she comes across as such an arrogant and confrontational person. Yeah, she does. Like in the tweets I shared here, there's this guy who said a lot of good stuff about women, and she's basically attacking him for 1) "mansplaining" and 2) not specifically applauding black women instead of women in general. What the hell is wrong with her? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 12:59:52 GMT
Um, what the hell did this guy do wrong??? He committed the unpardonable crime of not being Cynthia Erivo. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 14:32:47 GMT
What he actually did wrong was use lazy generalities. However, Cynthia is a f***ing nutcase.
Race was a far bigger factor than gender in the Moore/Jones election. More black women than men voted for Jones, but the difference was of only a few p/c. In Cynthia's world, anyone else's contribution counts for nothing.
Looking back at the tweet that seemed to kick this off - "We cannot continue to pick up everyone else’s slack. It means no one else is ever held accountable." - She seems to think that turning out to vote is some sort of heroic effort, rather than a matter of simple civic duty, and seems to have a chip on her shoulder that she isn't recognised as the saint she thinks she is, despite all the admiration that comes her way through her work.
The "It means no one else is ever held accountable" doesn't hold water at all - Roy Moore actually was held accountable at the ballot for his past misdeeds (if not by the legal system), and the religious right whites have received rightful scorn for their support of an alleged child molester.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 14:50:35 GMT
What he actually did wrong was use lazy generalities. However, Cynthia is a f***ing nutcase. Race was a far bigger factor than gender in the Moore/Jones election. More black women than men voted for Jones, but the difference was of only a few p/c. In Cynthia's world, anyone else's contribution counts for nothing. Looking back at the tweet that seemed to kick this off - "We cannot continue to pick up everyone else’s slack. It means no one else is ever held accountable." - She seems to think that turning out to vote is some sort of heroic effort, rather than a matter of simple civic duty, and seems to have a chip on her shoulder that she isn't recognised as the saint she thinks she is, despite all the admiration that comes her way through her work. The "It means no one else is ever held accountable" doesn't hold water at all - Roy Moore actually was held accountable at the ballot for his past misdeeds (if not by the legal system), and the religious right whites have received rightful scorn for their support of an alleged child molester. Yeah, and what she seems to imply with that original tweet is that somehow by the heroic deed of voting against the person that would do terrible things, people of colour somehow saved white people. While, indeed it is the case that African Americans played a big part in Moore's defeat, she seems to be saying that African Americans are some separate group of people who saved another group. I also like the fact that she says "We", while I very much doubt she actually voted in the Alabama senatorial election. As for the accountable part, I think she might be referring to the idea that white people should be held accountable for voting for the "wrong" candidate? I mean, my understanding of the nutcase language is quite limited, but that's what I could gather from that statement. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 14:51:04 GMT
Um, what the hell did this guy do wrong??? He committed the unpardonable crime of not being Cynthia Erivo. How dare he!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 14:54:38 GMT
Also, in the Alexandra Burke discussion, she brought up damning evidence that the person she was arguing with committed the terrible crime of being a white male. Case closed of course. Naturally, the words "queen" and "preach" were used by minions.
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Post by shady23 on Dec 17, 2017 16:11:12 GMT
That's it. If you have an issue with what someone tweets why not just reply to them directly? This quoting their tweets for the world to see when she is really just replying to them, just seems attention seeking.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 19:36:45 GMT
That's it. If you have an issue with what someone tweets why not just reply to them directly? This quoting their tweets for the world to see when she is really just replying to them, just seems attention seeking. The irony of quoting this to reply isn't lost haha! But i'm doing it to say I agree- she's far from the only one who does it (there's a nasty bully of an academic in my circles who does it often) and it really winds me up. By all means have an argument on twitter if you so choose, but if you're a "famous" person, doing it by quote-tweets rather than reply, is a clear invite to all your followers to pile in. Which isn't fair to some poor random with 25 followers who happened to comment on the wrong tweet . |
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Post by michalnowicki on Dec 17, 2017 20:29:12 GMT
Just when I thought "Yay, Cynthia is again focusing on singing" (currently touring Japan with Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess) she strikes again on Twitter.
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