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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 15:43:13 GMT
If fans still complain about it and don't understand she's doing this for health reasons, then they shouldn't call themselves fans anymore.
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Post by christya on Oct 24, 2018 15:51:06 GMT
It seems she's taking very reasonable precautions for her health, so anyone who whines about it is just generally rotten. I'm actually surprised more performers don't avoid SD for health reasons, even without a problematic immune system, as all the unpredictable touching from strangers has to be a great way to catch bugs. I know I've read more than one celebrity saying how ill they get after conventions, even if all they do is shake hands.
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Post by hannechalk on Oct 29, 2018 0:03:59 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter.
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Post by martello736 on Oct 29, 2018 9:22:08 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter. Just had a nose on Twitter and spotted one particular fan who tagged Linzi in 29 tweets in the week before she left Twitter, including once replying to a tweet someone posted about getting a cast recording with Lyn Paul (that Lyn was tagged in) saying that she had no name recognition and was a nobody and they should do one with Linzi instead - which Lyn later graciously replied to, managing not to call the person in question a c**t as I would have done. Don’t know much about Linzi Hateley but nobody deserves that. |
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Post by hannechalk on Oct 29, 2018 10:27:37 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter. Just had a nose on Twitter and spotted one particular fan who tagged Linzi in 29 tweets in the week before she left Twitter, including once replying to a tweet someone posted about getting a cast recording with Lyn Paul (that Lyn was tagged in) saying that she had no name recognition and was a nobody and they should do one with Linzi instead - which Lyn later graciously replied to, managing not to call the person in question a c**t as I would have done. Don’t know much about Linzi Hateley but nobody deserves that. That's the one. |
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Post by shady23 on Oct 29, 2018 12:38:08 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter. Just had a nose on Twitter and spotted one particular fan who tagged Linzi in 29 tweets in the week before she left Twitter, including once replying to a tweet someone posted about getting a cast recording with Lyn Paul (that Lyn was tagged in) saying that she had no name recognition and was a nobody and they should do one with Linzi instead - which Lyn later graciously replied to, managing not to call the person in question a c**t as I would have done. Don’t know much about Linzi Hateley but nobody deserves that. Some Wicked fans tweet the same people constantly. Everyone likes a compliment, but even they must get sick of being sent the same "you're so inspiring" "you're were amazing in the show yesterday" constantly by the same few people, especially as they will have heard the same thing at stage door too. |
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Post by kathryn on Oct 29, 2018 12:43:34 GMT
There's a reason why Twitter has a mute button.
(There are some fans of actors who literally tweet them everyday - hello/good morning/good night/this is what I've done today/this is what I'm thinking about - without ever getting a reply or a like. I do wonder what drives them to do it.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 17:44:18 GMT
Shame Linzi has taken a break from Twitter, she has always engaged with her fans and would respond with a like or a thanks. She has always made time at SD for fans too - she even introduced her daughter who is training to be an actress to some of us once and when I've seen Linzi since I've always asked how the training is going.
Some people do intrude too much in both person or online. A quick thanks, maybe just asking if performer has anything else coming up if near end of run, saying best of luck with the run, good performance etc. A few performers I may know a little bit better so they may chat a bit longer but I never keep them too long and often actually end the conversation myself.
Better known performers who have a number of fans may wait to chat to those they know better at the end after they have done the selfies, signings etc. But some fans won't wait and will try to engage a performer in a full conversation with another 20 odd people waiting. It is a lot easier to have a chat in a small group and gives the performers more space especially if they may need to watch their bags.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Oct 31, 2018 14:26:28 GMT
It's the desire to quantify a relationship, and to try to turn fanship into friendship.
I was my best friend last night (famous within the theatre world but not at all outside of it) and I ended up standing next to the taxi waiting to go back to his house for about 15 minutes because two of his fans who come to see everything he does were so determined to get more than the "standard fan" amount of interaction. And ignored him point blank saying "okay thanks for coming, lovely to see you again, I should catch up with my friends now" about three times. Or only heard "thanks for coming, lovely to see you again." They all follow me on Twitter and from what I've seen, they obviously think they're genuinely friends with him.
The thing is they are really nice. Fans are nearly always really nice. They're nice to me, even though they clearly think they know him better than I do. But a lot of them just don't get that being a fan or super fan doesn't equate to friendship. It doesn't matter how many times you stage door someone or how many lovely chats you have, even if a celeb genuinely appreciates your support and enjoys talking to you (and many celebs DO enjoy and appreciate it) you aren't friends and never will be. There's this weird attitude within fandom that if you manage to 'land' 10 minutes of chat with someone it somehow means you know them better or have a closer relationship than the fan who only got 1 minute of chat. When the person who chatted for 1 minute and politely saw that it wasn't the time for a longer conversation probably left a better impression.
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Post by Snciole on Oct 31, 2018 15:11:46 GMT
The tremendous Catherine Tate. We’d been to see her fantastic live show at De Montfort Hall in Leicester and were buying some merch afterwards (a v funny tea towel, of all things). The man at the counter told us that Miss T would be signing any merch at the stage door, so we made our way around. There was quite a crowd (and it was a bitterly cold night), but Catherine cheerfully signed everything anyone had. She took dozens of selfies with people on their phones. We were the very last in the queue. She took the time to ask us how we’d enjoyed the show, sign our tea towel, and take a number of selfies. We told her we’d seen her being equally brilliant in Much Ado About Nothing, and she talked about that for a while, until her minder dragged her back into the warm. Great show. Lovely lady. I had much the same experience with future Dame Tate. She actually photobombed me and I didn’t realise till months later (camera broke). Apropos of nothing, Charlie Edwards shops in my local M&S. If Charles Edwards is your best friend then I am on the side of those hysterical fans. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Oct 31, 2018 15:41:36 GMT
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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 31, 2018 16:41:54 GMT
They all follow me on Twitter and from what I've seen, they obviously think they're genuinely friends with him. Do they follow you on Twitter just because you're friends with the actor they're a fan of? Following an actor on social media, fine, but to follow the actor's friends - unless the friends are also actors who they follow because they are also fans of them - seems a bit odd even by social media standards. |
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Post by kathryn on Oct 31, 2018 16:42:58 GMT
It's the desire to quantify a relationship, and to try to turn fanship into friendship. Pretty much what one lady said to me last night when we were waiting to pick up tickets for the Hiddles talk - that she wanted to know who he really is. In other words, she wants to be his friend. |
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Post by kathryn on Oct 31, 2018 16:55:30 GMT
They all follow me on Twitter and from what I've seen, they obviously think they're genuinely friends with him. Do they follow you on Twitter just because you're friends with the actor they're a fan of? Following an actor on social media, fine, but to follow the actor's friends - unless the friends are also actors who they follow because they are also fans of them - seems a bit odd even by social media standards. Oh, it's quite common for people to do that. It's partly wanting to feel close to the person they're a fan of, and partly (with the very famous) because friends and employees often post about stuff that the person themselves would keep locked down. There are Beyonce superfans who worked out she was about to do a surprise album release by following her regular make-up artist, dancers, etc on social media. |
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Post by daisy24601 on Oct 31, 2018 20:40:41 GMT
It's the desire to quantify a relationship, and to try to turn fanship into friendship. I was my best friend last night (famous within the theatre world but not at all outside of it) and I ended up standing next to the taxi waiting to go back to his house for about 15 minutes because two of his fans who come to see everything he does were so determined to get more than the "standard fan" amount of interaction. And ignored him point blank saying "okay thanks for coming, lovely to see you again, I should catch up with my friends now" about three times. Or only heard "thanks for coming, lovely to see you again." They all follow me on Twitter and from what I've seen, they obviously think they're genuinely friends with him. The thing is they are really nice. Fans are nearly always really nice. They're nice to me, even though they clearly think they know him better than I do. But a lot of them just don't get that being a fan or super fan doesn't equate to friendship. It doesn't matter how many times you stage door someone or how many lovely chats you have, even if a celeb genuinely appreciates your support and enjoys talking to you (and many celebs DO enjoy and appreciate it) you aren't friends and never will be. There's this weird attitude within fandom that if you manage to 'land' 10 minutes of chat with someone it somehow means you know them better or have a closer relationship than the fan who only got 1 minute of chat. When the person who chatted for 1 minute and politely saw that it wasn't the time for a longer conversation probably left a better impression. I think this is exactly it. There is a certain level of competition between fans on who can find out things about a person by chatting to them that other fans don't know. It's actually put me off the whole thing with one person in particular I like. I do actually like being a fan of one or two musical theatre people because they don't have that many fans so it's not too crazy! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 23:55:41 GMT
At the Gielgud's stage door tonight, when George Blagden came out, one girl said "nah, don't like him at all", making sure he heard it. What an idiot. That poor guy's face...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 1, 2018 6:16:14 GMT
Good job Patti didn’t hear that, she’d have lamped her!
What sort of stage door crowd is Company pulling then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 7:43:35 GMT
Good job Patti didn’t hear that, she’d have lamped her! What sort of stage door crowd is Company pulling then? I was expecting it to be quiet, maybe 10 people, but we were around 40. I was probably the oldest (30yo) which was surprising. I never imagined this show would attract the teenage fangirls (aren't they supposed to be at the Royal Haymarket?). |
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Post by Steffi on Nov 1, 2018 10:43:10 GMT
Do they follow you on Twitter just because you're friends with the actor they're a fan of? Following an actor on social media, fine, but to follow the actor's friends - unless the friends are also actors who they follow because they are also fans of them - seems a bit odd even by social media standards. Oh, it's quite common for people to do that. It's partly wanting to feel close to the person they're a fan of, and partly (with the very famous) because friends and employees often post about stuff that the person themselves would keep locked down. There are Beyonce superfans who worked out she was about to do a surprise album release by following her regular make-up artist, dancers, etc on social media. I have a few Twitter followers who only started following me after they found out I’m friends with one if their favourite performers (no one famous). I don’t mind, my Twitter is public and I don’t post confidential or private info anyway. But I don’t really see the point either. On the other hand I know fans of another performer I’m close to (again, no one famous but with quite a dedicated fan base) follow me on Twitter even though they make no secret out of the fact they can’t stand me. I swear I was never rude to them - most of them have never even talked to me. Again, I don’t mind but I think they‘d be better off just ignoring me. :-) |
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Post by kathryn on Nov 1, 2018 11:16:56 GMT
When it gets really weird is when people start essentially hate-following girlfriends/partners - and then complain when said people respond to the attention by .... err...taking the piss. I've seen people accused of 'fan-baiting'. Also there's a thing where the stars being followed are expected to denounce their friends/colleagues/employees when fans who have stalked their social media find out something about them they don't like. The 'woke' brigade are particularly intolerant.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 1, 2018 12:34:51 GMT
Good job Patti didn’t hear that, she’d have lamped her! What sort of stage door crowd is Company pulling then? I was expecting it to be quiet, maybe 10 people, but we were around 40. I was probably the oldest (30yo) which was surprising. I never imagined this show would attract the teenage fangirls (aren't they supposed to be at the Royal Haymarket?). The little bleeders are getting everywhere aren’t they? Oh for the days when they restricted their activities to Wicked. I hope no one tries the Nutella trick on Patti. Let alone the microwave, they’ll end up wearing it! I suspect Patti is an old fashioned bouquet kinda gal. |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 1, 2018 12:55:47 GMT
Oh yeah, I've got fans who hate me following me. Every time I work with or am even papped with an actor who's Tumblr famous I wake up to a bunch of new Twitter followers who have that actor's photo as their profile pic. I've only got one who's actively unpleasant but a lot just assume that whichever actor they're obsessed with is so objectively amazing that surely anyone who has been anointed by his presence must worship him. I've had fans sent me pages-long messages raving about some TV show I've never heard of that starred an actor I worked with for like a week. Or fans trying to befriend me to get closer to actors I know, which is fun if their Twitter bio says they live in Brazil and they're messaging saying how much they loved something I worked on that had one performance at the Court Upstairs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 13:18:04 GMT
Some performers will have a public and private twitter and a superstar such as Beyoncé will only follow certain people on her twitter. Her make up designer, costume designers are likely to be high profile too so fans may follow them. I've known some big Madonna fans who years later talk on social media with some of her former dancers and share photos etc.
I'd have thought Patti Lupone might have had a more mature fan base or be someone a musical goer who may not normally SD might do so as she is a legend and might not do another West End run for several years if ever.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 1, 2018 14:09:15 GMT
Oh yeah, I've got fans who hate me following me. Every time I work with or am even papped with an actor who's Tumblr famous I wake up to a bunch of new Twitter followers who have that actor's photo as their profile pic. Yes, the face as the profile pic does rather give them away! I'm always surprised that people don't just go through their follower list and mute them all on sight! (Or maybe people do....) |
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Post by Roxie on Nov 1, 2018 21:05:57 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter. This wasn’t me, FYI! 😂 Seriously, I do love me some Linzi H, but she’s not the best thing since sliced bread and the saviour of humanity like this lady was making her out to be. She was saying things like a cast recording with Linzi as Mrs J would go straight to No 1 in every chart and she’d have to fight for tickets when it goes to broadway (it seemed like this was a done deal in her head!) it all got very wierd and she started commenting and liking all of my tweets aswell. Someone just needs to take her off Twitter tbh. |
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