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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 14, 2017 7:46:08 GMT
And she's now told everyone that the dressing rooms at that theatre are on the ground floor and accessible to any future chancer who takes a fancy to one of the actors. Sometimes it's best to just keep it buttoned.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 9:56:35 GMT
She should have just shut the window. Drama over. Also no way of knowing whether they were after her. Could be an overenthusiastic Les Denis fan! Is there any other kind of Les Denis fan?! |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 14:01:41 GMT
She finished at venue last night, so not really an issue. It was Northampton Derngate and the stage door and dressing rooms are right on street level, so anyone passing could bang on window etc. The windows only open at the top from what I recall or may just be small windows for obvious privacy reasons. Apparently it was a female member of a group of students, but how they knew which room Carrie was in or it could just have been chance I don't know.
On a funnier note I can recall walking out of Lyric Theatre after seeing Hitchcock Blonde and walking up the road at the side of theatre and there was Rosamund Pike with light on window open in the dressing room in her underwear getting changed after the show. Given how busy that road is and with the rather dodgy premises near by, lots of people could not help but have seen her. Given that she was naked on stage for a fair part of this play maybe she wasn't too bothered!
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Post by indis on Jul 11, 2017 10:21:23 GMT
and again there seemed to be a happening at sd and again around Carrie, makes me wonder about her "fans"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 10:28:09 GMT
She said there was a video coming about it...has that come up yet? there's now a sign at venues saying she won't be out on nights she won't be out.
It is another example of some very entitled behaviour from fans. In Carrie's case also just not 'getting it' that stage door isn't like a youtuber convention meet and greet.
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Post by infofreako on Jul 11, 2017 11:11:03 GMT
and again there seemed to be a happening at sd and again around Carrie, makes me wonder about her "fans" Whats happened? |
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Post by cheesy116 on Jul 11, 2017 13:55:17 GMT
and again there seemed to be a happening at sd and again around Carrie, makes me wonder about her "fans" Whats happened? She made a video about the stage door drama in general that she's experienced as she's only ever spoken about it through tweeting. I think she felt more pushed to make the video due to Ben Platt being on the negative end of some tweets when he didn't go out stage door one night at Dear Evan Hansen in New York. It's definitely worth a watch. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 11, 2017 14:05:23 GMT
Seven loooooong minutes of Carrie telling us she isn't arrogant.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 11, 2017 14:15:57 GMT
The thing is, she's just spent 7 minutes ripping a new one out of 70,000 YouTube viewers (not to mention people seeing this video elsewhere) for the sake of a handful of people who don't know how to behave like grown ups.
If Les Dennis got his words wrong and the Director gave everyone in the cast notes about learning dialogue, she wouldn't like it.
A tip for Carrie: address your ire to the people pissing you off, not your entire fan-base. Block them, mute them, message them and let them have it. There's no need to broadcast to the world how 'hurt' you are by the actions of a few nutters.
Unless you're just a bit of an attention seeker. Hmmmm?
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Post by d'James on Jul 11, 2017 14:23:48 GMT
Seven loooooong minutes of Carrie telling us she isn't arrogant. I'm saying nothing, other than your description really made me giggle. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 11, 2017 14:56:48 GMT
I'd love a body language expert to have a look at that Stage Door FAQ video because that is one rich seam there. As for the gifts. Wow. This surpasses Jaqueline "Jax" Hughes being bought emergency Nutella by martello736 by a long stretch. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 15:04:30 GMT
Strange how the people who purportedly can't stand her are so intimately acquainted with everything she says and does. Some of you seem to know more about her than I know about me.
Let's adopt her as the forum mascot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 15:08:19 GMT
I'd love a body language expert to have a look at that Stage Door FAQ video because that is one rich seam there. As for the gifts. Wow. This surpasses Jaqueline "Jax" Hughes being bought emergency Nutella by martello736 by a long stretch. I did NOT buy the Nutella  I was dragged along as a witness to a Nutella buying session by others, whilst feeling mortified and slightly violated  |
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Post by infofreako on Jul 11, 2017 15:21:30 GMT
The thing is, she's just spent 7 minutes ripping a new one out of 70,000 YouTube viewers (not to mention people seeing this video elsewhere) for the sake of a handful of people who don't know how to behave like grown ups. If Les Dennis got his words wrong and the Director gave everyone in the cast notes about learning dialogue, she wouldn't like it. A tip for Carrie: address your ire to the people pissing you off, not your entire fan-base. Block them, mute them, message them and let them have it. There's no need to broadcast to the world how 'hurt' you are by the actions of a few nutters. Unless you're just a bit of an attention seeker. Hmmmm? Paragraph 3. Absolutely spot on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 15:24:00 GMT
I'm pretty sure Carrie has uploaded at least three or four of these videos, I certainly feel that I've seen three or four of them.
The problem is she's stuck in a stalemate situation where she could go one of two ways but refuses to go either, so finds herself constantly having to justify her "precariously balanced on the fence" position, and then leaps in a little too forcefully in support of anyone that appears to vaguely reinforce her position.
She COULD say that actually she's a performer with friends, a life, and a proper existence, and that YouTubers don't tend to do musical theatre so she's pretty much the only well known YouTuber that is so constantly accessible and available to her fanbase all of the time (I mean how would you go about meeting Zoella?), and that she doesn't like it. She could say she isn't going to leave via stage door any more because it makes her uncomfortable and she's fed up of having to hold a pseudo meet and greet outside her place of work every night for young teenagers that are rude, abrasive, entitled, and don't know enough about stage door etiquette to treat her or her colleagues with the basic respect they deserve.
Alternatively she could say that she's very grateful to have such wonderful support, and that it means a lot to her to have so many people turn up wishing to speak to her, take pictures and have things signed. She could make a concerted effort to always spend a few minutes at stage door, even if it's only briefly on the way to a drinks party or before going off somewhere with her family, and she could make sure that everyone who turns up knows that they're appreciated. She could also ask one of her fellow cast members to come out with her and wait outside stage door for the first couple of minutes until she's reassured that it's not going to be a chaotic stampede and that all the people waiting are behaving reasonably.
The problem is, she refuses to do either, she occasionally leans towards the first one but tries to also make it look like she's being a bit of a snob for everybody else's benefit except her own. This awkward "I'm a human saint but one who avoids their fanbase" stance isn't particularly maintainable and it's one that performers should stop trying to adopt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 15:25:21 GMT
Paragraph 3- indeed! I thought she had it 'sorted' the other day when I noticed her politely but firmly telling some folks on twitter that she wasn't out and that was that (or words to that effect). But there was also a bit of (to my mind) passive- aggressive sharing of stage door photos with fans after someone accused her of 'snubbing' them or similar.
It's hard, because she's relatively young and if someone took me to task for all the daft things I said when I was 26 I'd look like a fool. But then I didn't have a large fanbase/platform on which I was saying them. But I think she's certainly said her piece on Stage door publically now and it should be the 'block them or tell them off' one by one approach for the actual idiots now.
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Post by d'James on Jul 11, 2017 15:28:50 GMT
Where did all the videos go?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 15:33:08 GMT
Where did all the videos go? There's the one linked upthread, here are two more that came up with a quick "Carrie Hope Fletcher Stage Door" YouTube search. The second one isn't that preachy but the first comment is a very long moan from Carrie about stage door behaviour etc. |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 11, 2017 15:41:18 GMT
Where did all the videos go? I deleted my post with the videos, as it was insinuated I was "intimately acquainted with her every move" and I didn't appreciate that. So I deleted my post- so as not to seem like that, I guess, not that it really matters, but whatever you know. (As martello736 said- it literally took a 5 second Youtube search for "Carrie Fletcher stage door" to find it, and I just found the comment funny) Stage door etiquette is an interesting discussion, but I don't feel at ease when it comes to talking about her. Agree with alot of what was said above me though. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 11, 2017 15:43:47 GMT
Here's the one with Carrie getting stuck into some pressies
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 15:46:51 GMT
Where did all the videos go? I deleted my post with the videos, as it was insinuated I was "intimately acquainted with her every move" and I didn't appreciate that. So I deleted my post- so as not to seem like that, I guess, not that it really matters, but whatever you know. (As martello736 said- it literally took a 5 second Youtube search for "Carrie Fletcher stage door" to find it, and I just found the comment funny) Stage door etiquette is an interesting discussion, but I don't feel at ease when it comes to talking about her. Agree with alot of what was said above me though. Oh sorry, I didn't realise you'd posted a link to some of the videos, I thought James meant that Carrie had been deleting from her channel (which would have been amusing). I don't think it's difficult to track down several instances of her repeating the same stage door opinion in ten different contexts, definitely doesn't require you to be "intimately acquainted with her every move". |
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Post by duncan on Jul 11, 2017 15:48:14 GMT
Let's adopt her as the forum mascot. Hell no.
The person who was 3rd cover Glinda for a week in November 2009 should be the forum mascot.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 11, 2017 15:57:22 GMT
The problem is, she refuses to do either, she occasionally leans towards the first one but tries to also make it look like she's being a bit of a snob for everybody else's benefit except her own. This awkward "I'm a human saint but one who avoids their fanbase" stance isn't particularly maintainable and it's one that performers should stop trying to adopt. There's a bigger problem. The social media presence supports a lot of revenue generation stuff which is not connected to acting. Meeting fans at THE stage door supports the social media which supports sales of books and other stuff. Being considered a snooty madam who doesn't care about her fans isn't conducive to shifting product is it? Cynical? Moi? |
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Post by LaLuPone on Jul 11, 2017 16:09:43 GMT
I have quite a few thoughts after watching that video. To start, she talks about not being able to be out at stage door having conversations with 50-60 when she has a show the next day, well why can't she just have a photo or sign something with every fan and then move on? I don't think many people expect any more than that. Out of experience, I'd have thought that most teenagers are too socially-anxious to even speak to their idols (I could hardly squeeze out "you're a great Glinda" to Suzie Mathers the second time I met her and she's hardly my absolute idol). There could easily be a system (a sign maybe) saying that Carrie will either sign a programme/photo/forehead/whatever after the show or have a selfie and then move on, I think most if not all fans would be satisfied with that, that's all they want from her.
There was a similar system to what I described above with Rachel Tucker on her last weekend at Wicked; on the Friday show anyway her husband walked out in front of her saying "please have phones ready to take pictures and programmes out for autographs" so that she didn't get too cold. But despite that, she still spent time listening to girls pouring their hearts out about heartbreak and who knows what (🙄) and made sure she saw everyone. Also Sheridan Smith, I heard that she came out of the stage door at Funny Girl after her first performance back from her absence, the poor woman had been off with stress and exhaustion, coping with her extremely ill dad and all the sh*t those stupid tabloids had been writing about her but she still came out, spending lengthy amounts of time with each fan and even hugging them as she does each night. It needs to be said too (I haven't seen The Addams Family or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang so this is just me assuming sorry) that Elphaba and Fanny Brice are a lot more challening than Wednesday Addams and Truly Scrumptious, I can't think of many roles more challenging than Elphaba and Fanny to be honest. Of course I'm not saying she should come out of stage door every night just because Rachel and Sheridan did, she doesn't owe anyone a stage door experience and it's not part of her job but she should maybe look at those women and how they deal with stage door.
Finally, I agree with people who have said it all seems a bit like she's seeking attention. I believe Amber Riley doesn't stage door very often at Dreamgirls after her pneumonia scare which is completely understandable but the difference is when people tweet her about not coming out (which I'd have thought they did, she has a big fanbase of young girls (and boys) because of Glee) she doesn't reply. She ignores and I think this is best. Taking into account that Carrie has already covered this topic numerous times on video/tweets, it does seem this is getting attention seeking now.
Sorry for this really long and boring post, just wanted to write my opinion somewhere. And sorry if I've upset any Carrie fans, I do respect her as a performer and respect that she shouldn't have to stage door at all if she doesn't want to.
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Post by d'James on Jul 11, 2017 16:11:39 GMT
Here's the one with Carrie getting stuck into some pressies Ahhh yes. That's the one I was looking for. Where did all the videos go? I deleted my post with the videos, as it was insinuated I was "intimately acquainted with her every move" and I didn't appreciate that. So I deleted my post- so as not to seem like that, I guess, not that it really matters, but whatever you know. (As martello736 said- it literally took a 5 second Youtube search for "Carrie Fletcher stage door" to find it, and I just found the comment funny) Stage door etiquette is an interesting discussion, but I don't feel at ease when it comes to talking about her. Agree with alot of what was said above me though. Oh right. I thought I was going mad. Thanks for alerting me to them :-) |
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