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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 6:51:43 GMT
Poor Albert was restricted by position, title and tradition. It's unthinkable really, that he couldn't walk into dinner with his wife. I would like to be a fly on the wall if Prince Phillip is/was ever in such a position though 😂 Now that's an episode I'd love to watch!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 21:09:51 GMT
A grand final episode! Loved the auditions for wet-nurse, the image of the pregnant queen balancing her bowl of marrons glaces on her bump, and that beautiful long orchestral version of the Alleluia theme song as the episode was wrapping up...
We look forward to Victoria II. Long may she reign!
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Post by johartuk on Oct 10, 2016 0:13:41 GMT
I've enjoyed watching this, but I found Jenna Coleman a bit hammy at times (both she and the actor who played Albert seemed to be channelling their 'inner stroppy teenager', complete with bouts of sulking and general moodiness). Jenna's vocal delivery was a bit strange and forced at times - as if she was speaking how she thought a queen should speak, which was OK in scenes when she was dealing with courtiers/subjects, but odd when she was supposed to be having a private conversation with Lord M, Prince Albert or anyone else she was close to. Rufus Sewell acted her off the screen in every scene they were in together - she often seemed a bit OTT, while he managed to often convey something with just a glance or a slight flicker of a smile (or frown).
I found it pretty slow - they could probably have wrapped things up in 6 episodes if they'd cut out some of the repetitive waffle (how many times was it mentioned in the final two eps that Victoria might die in childbirth, and how many times did we hear the words 'poor Charlotte'?) and moved things on at a brisker pace.
I felt a bit sorry for the Duke of Cumberland in tonight's ep - wrongly accused of plotting to murder his niece, and then not so much as an apology when it turned out that he was innocent, and the would-be assassin was actually a lone nutter. I suspect that in reality, Cumberland was more sinned against than sinning (apparently, he was disliked by politicians and the media, so they were more than happy to spread negative gossip about him, whether true or not). I read an interesting book on him, and he was accused of all sorts during his life, including having an affair with his sister which resulted in the birth of an illegitimate child, murdering a footman, murdering his wife...blimey, that would make a heck of a TV drama!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 7:16:47 GMT
Haven't seen the final episode yet but am inclined to agree with the Telegraph reviewer, who said he'd been bored the last few weeks, for which he was blaming Rufus Sewell for having such great chemistry with Jenna Coleman and then leaving so early. Sewell does, of course, have a pretty solid defence (historical fact, m'lud) but I take the reviewer's point. The pair of them did sizzle, which is exactly what Sunday night period drama audiences want - so Vicky/Albert felt like something of a damp squib in comparison. Which is unfortunate, given that in real life they were something of a love match!
I've actually rather enjoyed Coleman's performance though. I think she's been so good at conveying how hard Victoria must have found it to, quite literally, succeed in a man's world. Though I know what johartuk means - there were a couple of times I thought she would turn to a courtier a la Blackadder's Elizabeth I, smile sweetly and say, "Melchie, who's queen?" when she wanted to get her own way! ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 7:51:22 GMT
Say what you like about this series but Tom Hughes does have glorious hair.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 9:24:54 GMT
I really enjoyed this, but agree the last couple of episodes were a bit slow. I like Jenna Coleman anyway and thought she did a great job, but Sewell was so good he was sorely missed when Lord M went off into retirement! Looking forward to the next series though.
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Post by viserys on Oct 10, 2016 16:00:19 GMT
For me it wasn't just the chemistry between Sewell and Coleman that was missing from the last episodes, it was the whole plot as such that turned tedious. The first episodes were more about politics, Victoria establishing herself as Queen, getting a new parliament together, finding a husband and so on. Once she had got together with Albert, it all went downhill. I liked the bit about the train ride and Albert urging Victoria to be more open to modern developments, but there was too much trivia around the baby (and the risk of Victoria dying), sudden and pointless nonsense like the stalker of the last episode, the "affair" between Ernst and the Duchess and the downstairs subplot between the Italian chef and the dull lady's maid. I hope they'll return to more politics and scenes that deal with Victoria's unique situation as a young queen in a period of great change and less of the romance subplots which we have in dozens of other shows.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 17:15:39 GMT
What a truly wonderful series. I will miss Sunday evenings with Victoria and Albert.
What a beautiful closing scene!
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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 10, 2016 18:10:27 GMT
I haven't watched this series yet I found myself dreaming about it last night. Goodness only knows why. Though I think my subconscious mind was getting it mixed up with Doctor Who as in my dream Matt Smith was playing Prince Albert!
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Post by lou105 on Oct 10, 2016 19:40:27 GMT
I haven't watched this series yet I found myself dreaming about it last night. Goodness only knows why. Though I think my subconscious mind was getting it mixed up with Doctor Who as in my dream Matt Smith was playing Prince Albert! Well, he is about to appear as Prince Phillip..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 20:31:20 GMT
1 week to go!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 23:50:30 GMT
Can't wait. My loins are girded for another few weeks of the delicious Tom Hughes and his floppy hair.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 21:13:26 GMT
Oh I do love this.
The chemistry between Victoria and Albert is a joy to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 21:09:38 GMT
Tonight's episode had me in bits!
Couldn't care less about the Albert storyline or Victoria's annoying half-sister, but the Skerett and Francotelli storyline really got me. Their storyline this series has been the best for me, and it has been good to see supporting characters getting decent screen time.
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 14, 2019 21:21:36 GMT
Tonight's episode had me in bits! Couldn't care less about the Albert storyline or Victoria's annoying half-sister, but the Skerett and Francotelli storyline really got me. Their storyline this series has been the best for me, and it has been good to see supporting characters getting decent screen time. Oh. I've actually stopped watching until the actor playing Palmerston puts his King Rat suit back on and trundles off to provincial panto....actually...sorry....that's an insult to provincial panto. And why has someone dropped a ferret onto Tom H's head?🐿 It appears to be causing an acute case of whisperitis. However, now you've mentioned Skerotelli, I may watch tonight's episode and ff to their bits as I also love those two. 🙂
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 22:11:56 GMT
However, now you've mentioned Skerotelli, I may watch tonight's episode and ff to their bits as I also love those two. 🙂 Make sure you have tissues! And watch their bits from eps 1 to 3 first before this one. Apart from them I haven't really enjoyed this series much at all. Jenna Coleman is still great but I can't decide which of Palmerston or the sister are more annoying, and the romance between the footman and the Duchess couldn't be more contrived if they tried...
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 14, 2019 22:25:29 GMT
Thanks for the warning. I watched until about half way through last week's ep before I hurled something at the telly and deleted my series link, so I know their storyline more or less. They are fantastic actors. I'd like to see them do something in theatre. Everyone else (now Ernest and Melbourne are no longer) not so much. Definitely don't share the Jenna love.
Oh the footman! Yet another annoyance. Is he still giving dodgy looks to the side every 3 seconds to insinuate he's up to no good? Yes! We get it!
I actually liked the sister. Good actress. I saw her in that thing at the National where she played the injured army person.
Now, here's an idea. Seeing as they don't particularly stick to historical accuracy, maybe they could kill Palmerston off?😉 Please? Someone?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 23:40:35 GMT
Thanks for the warning. I watched until about half way through last week's ep before I hurled something at the telly and deleted my series link, so I know their storyline more or less. They are fantastic actors. I'd like to see them do something in theatre. Everyone else (now Ernest and Melbourne are no longer) not so much. Definitely don't share the Jenna love. Oh the footman! Yet another annoyance. Is he still giving dodgy looks to the side every 3 seconds to insinuate he's up to no good? Yes! We get it! I actually liked the sister. Good actress. I saw her in that thing at the National where she played the injured army person. Now, here's an idea. Seeing as they don't particularly stick to historical accuracy, maybe they could kill Palmerston off?😉 Please? Someone? Oh I think Kate Fleetwood is great, but the sister is just such an annoying meddling character! And it's a bit ridiculous how many characters just disappeared between series 2 and 3 so maybe I'm just a bit grumpy about their replacements! Not sure I can be bothered to watch anymore - Skerett and Francatelli have been my favourite characters ever since Lord M was written out! I agree, I'd like to see them both do theatre!
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