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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 10, 2018 8:22:02 GMT
Thanks - it is probably too close to the original for it to be viable - but I do think it is a fairer way of doing this sort of skills-based competition. Level playing field, space to have one bad week and still survive, and far more transparent. I think your format is much better than the current one. Thanks I think I get over-invested in it - particularly in years where I have tried to get on the bloody show Year 2, I was the first to be seen at the London auditions (they only saw 100 people that year) - and I didn't get on. The person after me in to meet Mary (who did the auditions that year) was the eventual winner! This year, I tried again and got through to London again - this time part of a much bigger audition. And was told that I didn't have enough hot water crust experience but to keep trying. I have got increasingly frustrated with the over-emphasis on design and decoration that has increased over the years. I find the over-tight time frames for the bakes to be unfair. And the conditions in the tent are clearly inadequate for what they are asking people to do. And I find PH insufferable. He plays favourites. Every year. Not based on their performance. (Yes, I know a lot of that can be down to the edit - I know how these things work - but even so, he still have favourites who get a free pass for poor work) Love Productions have to up the ante in order to keep finding more elaborate challenges that people won't have done before. But it has long since ceased to be the search for the best baker. It is manipulated throughout - which is inevitable for a TV show - and designed for drama not getting the best out of people. My proposed format would redress some of that imbalance. |
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Post by kathryn on Oct 10, 2018 8:36:54 GMT
I've barely watched the Channel 4 version. The appeal of bake-off was always its coziness, low stakes, and lack of drama.
Attempting to up the ante defeats the object.
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Post by n1david on Oct 10, 2018 9:32:30 GMT
I quite enjoyed last year's C4 series but I think that's because I expected it to be rubbish but it was OK. I'm not really getting this year's - the people I like keep getting chucked off and I'm really not sure I want anyone left in to win. The Hollywood handshakes have become a joke and it's all just a bit too knowing now. I'll stick this one out but may not bother next year.
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Post by alece10 on Oct 10, 2018 10:38:06 GMT
Can't say I'm likely to go vegan anytime soon judging by what they produced. Those cakes looked very claggy and hard to swallow.
Genuine innocent question. If vegans don't eat any animal bi products what would happen to the cows if they weren't milked? Wouldn't their udders explode? And what about all those chicken eggs?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 12:17:55 GMT
Can't say I'm likely to go vegan anytime soon judging by what they produced. Those cakes looked very claggy and hard to swallow. Genuine innocent question. If vegans don't eat any animal bi products what would happen to the cows if they weren't milked? Wouldn't their udders explode? And what about all those chicken eggs? It is an abomination when you think about it (uh-oh! Feel another Skryker rant coming on. Someone please stop me...) Cows lactate when they give birth so they are artificially inseminated to increase their yield. They are then killed for their meat. Horrible. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 12:21:47 GMT
Since cows only produce milk when in calf, the situation would solve itself. The last calves would drink the milk intended for them, then we would stop breeding cows and the species would end. Same with chickens - no fertilised eggs means no new chicks means game over. I don't know if our decision to stop breeding them on the grounds that we don't want to eat their byproducts anymore would automatically result in extinction. If we weren't keeping them all domestically anymore, we'd have to consider how to carefully reintroduce them to the wild - or to country parks - for sure, but I don't think chickens would be quite as heavy-duty as cattle. Particularly as we *don't* need chickens to be pregnant for us to use their eggs, they'd probably manage just fine if we actually let the hens and the roosters have free access to each other as other wild birds have. |
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Post by kathryn on Oct 10, 2018 12:48:22 GMT
Cows and sheep would face problems because they're large creatures that needs lots of land and - at least with modern breeds - quite a lot of human intervention to keep healthy, and if you're not making money out of farming them there's little incentive for that to happen. Chickens would probably survive about as well as other birds do, I suppose?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 10, 2018 16:27:42 GMT
Cows need loads of help to give birth dont they?youre always seeing vets with their arms up cows doo-dahs, even ropes! I can’t imagine they’d do very well in the wild.
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Post by lynette on Oct 10, 2018 17:24:57 GMT
Well this thread has taken an interesting turn I find as I check in.
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Post by jaqs on Oct 10, 2018 17:48:44 GMT
Would we still breed the animals for manure to fertilise the veggies with?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 10, 2018 18:35:27 GMT
BTW, glad you've swapped whatever you were doing in your pants for a nice cup of tea. Coffee.... fifth of the day. That’s why my face is like that. Pants are in the wash! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 21:20:28 GMT
youre always seeing vets with their arms up cows doo-dahs James Herriot was a famous Scottish Yorkshire TV ventriloquist act in the early 80s, you know, "James and Daisy The Cow." The ropes are when the calf is "laid wrong" and has to be turned to be born. Like any animal in the wild, the healthy live, those with problems will die. BTW, glad you've swapped whatever you were doing in your pants for a nice cup of tea. I too am so relieved that Burly is no longer rummaging around in his pants. |
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Post by sf on Oct 10, 2018 22:23:02 GMT
Would we still breed the animals for manure to fertilise the veggies with?
No need - at least, unless Boris Johnson takes a vow of silence.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 11:36:13 GMT
Would we still breed the animals for manure to fertilise the veggies with?
No need - at least, unless Boris Johnson takes a vow of silence.
I saw a headline in WHSmith the other day which said sperm whale found in English river. Underneath was a picture of Boris Johnson wading through water. |
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Post by Tibidabo on Oct 16, 2018 20:40:27 GMT
How the heck did he avoid the chop? My favourite since week 1, but definitely the worst this week by a country mile.
So many tears! Loved the homage to John with the shirts.
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Post by lynette on Oct 16, 2018 20:56:06 GMT
How indeed?
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Post by Tibidabo on Oct 16, 2018 21:15:44 GMT
Could it be because his signature bread came out of the oven the same colour as Paul?🎃
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 9:17:22 GMT
I love Rahul and would love to see him come out the other side of the show with a newfound self-confidence, but I really really don't know how he made it through last night. Manon's been such a strong contender since the beginning, I really thought she was going to go all the way. (And I'm still not entirely sure how Ruby keeps clinging on week after week after week...)
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Post by freckles on Oct 17, 2018 9:47:55 GMT
Now Rahul has messed up too, nobody seems quite good enough, and I have no idea who will/should win, they are all so up and down! Having said that, I think there have been some really weird bakes this series, I look forward to when they can just bake a cake and everyone can produce something decent and be judged fairly. I would like Rahul to triumph though.
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Post by glossie on Oct 17, 2018 10:59:09 GMT
I really expected Rahul to be out this week but on reflection, I think what did for Manon was, to paraphrase Paul & Prue, 'She produced some lovely French pastries'. But it was Danish week, so even though Rahul's were bad, they were at least bad Danish.
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Post by jaqs on Oct 17, 2018 11:36:49 GMT
French bread and french pastries did Manon in, Paul was not happy.
But how mean was Pru to Briony in the first round? The woman was already in tears and Pru stuck in a boot, a knife and a headbutt.
It was a horrible week, making things no one wants to eat.
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Post by sf on Oct 17, 2018 16:38:37 GMT
But how mean was Pru to Briony in the first round? The woman was already in tears and Pru stuck in a boot, a knife and a headbutt. The difference between Briony and Rahul this week: Briony got some very harsh criticism in the first round, and was clearly upset, and gritted her teeth and went back in with a look on her face that said "I'll show 'em". And she did. Rahul got some very harsh criticism in the first round and he never got out from under it. I thought he was going home, and I think he would have been if Manon hadn't gone off-piste with her recipes. |
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Post by crowblack on Oct 17, 2018 17:11:35 GMT
making things no one wants to eat. I quite like that scandi treacle bread stuff. |
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Post by sf on Oct 17, 2018 17:15:13 GMT
making things no one wants to eat. I quite like that scandi treacle bread stuff.
So do I, and I've made it a couple of times. I also like Danish pastries, and I've been known to make them too, although I haven't for a while.
And I'd definitely have a go at those apple pancake things if I had the right pan.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 17, 2018 19:28:58 GMT
I make great danish cinnamon rolls. It’s just getting them out of the cardboard tube that’s the tricky bit.
I suspect Rahul was deemed to be more ‘interesting’ than Manon. I think KimJoy will come back stronger after all the tears and may well win it. Her design and artistry was a cut above all the others, and she is an interesting person to watch.
I agree... can we see some nice cakes now please?
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