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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:50:20 GMT
This is the version due to Tour the UK in a couple of years. Is there a dislike button?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:57:24 GMT
10. "If Your Father Were Here" - Mrs. Bucket Thats interesting. I wonder why its changed from Mother to Father? If its simply Mother/Father verses switched round to suit characters on stage timing-wise or something deeper, socially implied. They've really butchered the original. Gutted 'Juicy' has been cut. I hope 'Tales of Wonka' is a rehash of 'The Amazing Fantastical History of..' because I loved that song. I wont be making a trip to see this, but I'd be interested to hear the new songs/replacements on a Broadway soundtrack release which I guess is likely. Edit: Apparently Charlie's father has been killed off, hence the change of song, answering my first question.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 8:31:01 GMT
Sorry for the Charlie spam, but I need to vent. This show is getting ripped apart on BW forum. And rightly so it seems. Veruca gets dismembered and her separate body parts are brought on stage by squirrels! Thought this was a family show!! Charlie's dad is dead, but somehow gets integrated into the show and his corpse has a dance sequence with Charlies mum. What?!
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Post by jgblunners on Mar 30, 2017 8:49:29 GMT
I seem to be among the minority who absolutely loved everything about the West End version and didn't think anything should be changed. I'm sad to see it's been so butchered as I thought it was a wonderful adaptation of the book, although I appreciate that many people were comparing it to the Gene Wilder film and feeling it didn't live up to it. I liked the subplot with the homeless person even if it was a bit obvious.
I thought the music in particular was brilliant, and I don't think it needed any more songs from the film as it was quite clearly meant to be an entirely different version. I see that they've moved 'pure imagination' away from the glass elevator scene and added a new song there. Bad move in my opinion - that song is magical and fits that scene perfectly.
By no means do I wish this bad luck on Broadway, but I think they should've stuck with the version that played here and if this indeed turns out to be the version that tours the UK, I think I'll give it a miss to preserve my happy memories of the original West End run.
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Post by Mark on Mar 30, 2017 8:53:52 GMT
It's been a fun morning reading the reviews (or rather, eulogies) on Broadwayworld. Didn't like this show in London (and a second viewing a few years into the run didn't help) but wow this sounds like an absolute mess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 9:01:00 GMT
It's been a fun morning reading the reviews (or rather, eulogies) on Broadwayworld. Didn't like this show in London (and a second viewing a few years into the run didn't help) but wow this sounds like an absolute mess. Its been a fun mourning* haha
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Post by Mark on Mar 30, 2017 9:09:53 GMT
It's been a fun morning reading the reviews (or rather, eulogies) on Broadwayworld. Didn't like this show in London (and a second viewing a few years into the run didn't help) but wow this sounds like an absolute mess. Its been a fun mourning* haha Why didn't I think of that! haha
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 9:48:52 GMT
I'm not surpried they have gone so over the top on their views on BWW though. They are always arguing, being over the top. There is no middle ground with them, they eachother really love it or really hate it and snap at eachother alot anyway. We are alot more held back here compared to them on that board!
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Post by stuartmcd on Mar 30, 2017 16:54:08 GMT
I'm not surpried they have gone so over the top on their views on BWW though. They are always arguing, being over the top. There is no middle ground with them, they eachother really love it or really hate it and snap at eachother alot anyway. We are alot more held back here compared to them on that board! Yes I've noticed this when looking for opinions on Groundhog Day. Some really scathing opinions on there but when you check social media it is a lot more positive
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 17:10:23 GMT
Doesn't surprise me at all that Broadway regulars aren't taking to Charlie and Groundhog Day to be honest. We'd probably be that harsh on them too if we got Come From Away, Dear Evan Hansen and Great Comet all in one season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 13:58:12 GMT
The role of Charlie's Mother must be alot more substansial in this production considering, judging by the photos of the curtain call, it appears she gets to bow after the Golden Ticket Winners and their parents, and just before Grandpa Joe, Charlie and Wonka.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 15:43:55 GMT
The role of Charlie's Mother must be alot more substansial in this production considering, judging by the photos of the curtain call, it appears she gets to bow after the Golden Ticket Winners and their parents, and just before Grandpa Joe, Charlie and Wonka. I wonder if Charlie's dead father gets a bow...
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Post by infofreako on Mar 31, 2017 16:17:39 GMT
My expectations for the London production were sky high having heard so much raving about the set and the music and I left disappointed by both. I suspect this will be no different
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Post by Kenneth_C on Apr 2, 2017 6:03:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 9:22:38 GMT
"Violet almost rolled off the edge of the stage at my performance" hahahahahah
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Post by westendwendy on Apr 2, 2017 10:00:06 GMT
I could cry that no one has got this show right. Mary Poppins was glorious, even Chitty was fun. Charlie has just been a disaster it seems on both sides of the pond.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 10:11:53 GMT
I could cry that no one has got this show right. Mary Poppins was glorious, even Chitty was fun. Charlie has just been a disaster it seems on both sides of the pond. Whilst UK Charlie didn't please some critics, playing to a relatively full house for 4 years in Londons biggest theatre is hardly a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 10:24:09 GMT
The show was good in London. The production was right (for me!) and I am a fan of the Film and Book. But the Broadway production looks like a disaster in the making. At least, with the London run, it ran 4 years, and it done good business throughout.
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Post by westendwendy on Apr 2, 2017 12:15:38 GMT
I could cry that no one has got this show right. Mary Poppins was glorious, even Chitty was fun. Charlie has just been a disaster it seems on both sides of the pond. Whilst UK Charlie didn't please some critics, playing to a relatively full house for 4 years in Londons biggest theatre is hardly a disaster. I didn't say the show wasn't successful. Four years is great. That said being "good" isn't good enough for such a beguiling story that millions hold close to their hearts. It truly is one of the best films from my childhood. The stage show ran for such a long time because of its name not because the show was extraordinary. The set was mostly great, new music pants, not including the original songs bad, plot/book odd and magic none existent. I don't wish the show to do badly as I have friends in the Broadway production (and I've seen all the new sets) but doubt this new version over the pond will last very long.
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Post by LaLuPone on Apr 2, 2017 13:41:24 GMT
My parents are trying to book this if we end up going to America in the summer and I'm doing all I can to stop them after what I've read on here😂 Praying we can go to Miss Saigon instead
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Post by stuartmcd on Apr 3, 2017 18:52:17 GMT
So the Facebook page has blocked reviews from being posted about the show. Before they removed them I had seen a number of reviews complaining about the set. Now this could just be because it's in previews but I haven't seen any other show do this. Groundhog Day is still in previews and they are letting people review their show on Facebook
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 3, 2017 18:58:47 GMT
HAHAHA! Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 21:28:19 GMT
This is sort of related and I just found it today but at least if this flops Christian Borle has something to fall back on.
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Post by LXQ41.GO. on Apr 3, 2017 22:27:53 GMT
I feel like they have just gotten really lazy? Like you can get away with not having an era/coubtry to be based in, if you have decent set/costume/lighting/projection. Similarly you can get away wih a minimalistic set if your costumes/lighting/projection/songs stand out and the actors use the space to their advantage. But from what I have seen (not a lot!), it really feels like they've just gone 'its fine, the name will sell it' and not put the effort in..
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Post by d'James on Apr 3, 2017 22:54:03 GMT
Oh well. They made the exterior of the Theatre look good.
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