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Post by schuttep on Dec 14, 2022 18:48:33 GMT
schuttep Were they dancing? I’m sure one of them said they didn’t realise they weren’t supposed to dance. I was considering writing to Hope Mill but I think the person who I took to be a manager was one of the owners (or is it former owner now it’s a charity?) and it looks like any general emails would go to him, so there didn’t seem much point. Marob - I don't remember dancing. But I did write to the Hope Mill and - you seem to be right in your prediction - the silence was deafening.
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Post by cavocado on Dec 16, 2022 16:38:31 GMT
Adrian Edmondson complaining on Twitter:
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Post by max on Dec 16, 2022 17:00:51 GMT
Adrian Edmondson complaining on Twitter: The majority of replies to this are suggesting the child may have ADHD or Autism, and using the ipad to regulate; also the belief that no school would allow this without good reason - and an ipad is not like smuggling a phone and avoiding the supervising teachers' attention. Interesting. Edmondson getting stick for shaming a child/school. If their conjecture is correct, it's still worth a school notifying FOH, or preferably the theatre in advance, so actors are aware the glow from the dark auditorium is to be expected.
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Post by Jon on Dec 16, 2022 17:32:39 GMT
Adrian Edmondson complaining on Twitter: The majority of replies to this are suggesting the child may have ADHD or Autism, and using the ipad to regulate; also the belief that no school would allow this without good reason - and an ipad is not like smuggling a phone and avoiding the supervising teachers' attention. Interesting. Edmondson getting stick for shaming a child/school. If their conjecture is correct, it's still worth a school notifying FOH, or preferably the theatre in advance, so actors are aware the glow from the dark auditorium is to be expected. Without knowing the reason why the teenager had an iPad on him, I'm not sure if Ade Edmondson was right to shame them.
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Post by sph on Dec 16, 2022 17:53:58 GMT
I think it's natural for a performer or audience member to become annoyed if there's something like this going on in the auditorium. Although my sympathy is more with audience nearby.
The issue with airing these things on twitter is that you are immediately attacked by the "OH BUT WHAT IF..." brigade who are determined to list a variety of very specific reasons that these things happen. "Oh but what if that woman singing along has a rare condition where she HAS to sing every five minutes OTHERWISE HER VOICE BOX WILL COLLAPSE AND SHE'LL DIIIEEEEE!!!" etc. I do find them tiresome.
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Post by Jon on Dec 16, 2022 17:59:36 GMT
I think it's natural for a performer or audience member to become annoyed if there's something like this going on in the auditorium. Although my sympathy is more with audience nearby. The issue with airing these things on twitter is that you are immediately attacked by the "OH BUT WHAT IF..." brigade who are determined to list a variety of very specific reasons that these things happen. "Oh but what if that woman singing along has a rare condition where she HAS to sing every five minutes OTHERWISE HER VOICE BOX WILL COLLAPSE AND SHE'LL DIIIEEEEE!!!" etc. I do find them tiresome. I have no time for drunken singing and bad behaviour and that absolutely should be called out but in this case, I think Ade was slightly in the wrong for saying we don't want you to be here.
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Post by sph on Dec 16, 2022 18:02:51 GMT
Yes, true, but the point still stands that he probably shouldn't have tweeted about it and the rest of society didn't really need to get involved to become some sort of collective Devil's advocate.
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Post by intoanewlife on Dec 16, 2022 18:38:48 GMT
and the rest of society didn't really need to get involved to become some sort of collective Devil's advocate. Isn't that the only reason anyone uses Twitter?
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Post by kate8 on Dec 17, 2022 8:49:50 GMT
Far more likely (based on my experience of school parties at theatres), that this was just a kid who didn’t want to go on a theatre trip and smuggled in his/her iPad.
But FWIW I’m autistic, with an autistic child, and I’m sympathetic to the actor. If you need to use a banned gadget to cope, then school or parent should ask/inform the theatre access staff, and seat that person in a less distracting area.
For me and my child, autism means we find distractions really hard to cope with, so phone/ipad use could ruin my evening. Who decides which person’s needs are most important?
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Dec 17, 2022 11:50:38 GMT
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Post by Dawnstar on Dec 17, 2022 16:05:54 GMT
For me and my child, autism means we find distractions really hard to cope with, so phone/ipad use could ruin my evening. Who decides which person’s needs are most important? As someone who is also autistic, I completely agree with this point. Relaxed performances, which are supposed to cater for autistic people, would be awful for me. What I want is for everyone in an audience to sit still & shut up!
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Post by stagedoorsally on Dec 17, 2022 17:12:49 GMT
For me and my child, autism means we find distractions really hard to cope with, so phone/ipad use could ruin my evening. Who decides which person’s needs are most important? As someone who is also autistic, I completely agree with this point. Relaxed performances, which are supposed to cater for autistic people, would be awful for me. What I want is for everyone in an audience to sit still & shut up! I would LOVE a “sit still & shut up” performance! Don’t know why no one does that - suspect it would be quite popular (and not just with those of us with autism!)
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Post by Jon on Dec 17, 2022 17:59:24 GMT
I'm guessing applause would be banned from such a performance.
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Post by Dawnstar on Dec 17, 2022 18:26:04 GMT
Applause after music has finished is fine but it really annoys me when people start applauding as soon as the singer finishes, or even before they have finished, when the orchestra is still going. I always wait until the music has stopped, by which time often everyone else's applause has ended so I can't then applaud at all.
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Post by garjobo on Dec 17, 2022 19:31:51 GMT
I have to comment on that post which mentioned, 'price them out' is not a very nice thing to say, or think to be honest.
If im paying over a £100 or £200 for couple seats and someone rustles sweet packaging for a length of time ( let alone anything else ), i have no hesitation in make my feelings heard, I didnt pay that money to listen you scenerio. Life is too short. Anyone going to a place where others are must be aware and be considerate .if they cannot be, then at the very least they book end seats, back..clearly they are not bothered about the experience of a show so why pay for a good seat amongst others who pay for a good seat because they want to enjoy the show.
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Post by sfsusan on Dec 17, 2022 20:33:22 GMT
I witnessed bad behavior last night in person for the first time. At Sleeping Beauty (Sadler's Wells), the scene where she awakens and she and her true love are expressing their joy and love... a woman in the front row sticks up her phone and starts filming or takes a photo -- with flash! The usher lit her up with their flashlight when she repeated that during curtain calls, but I couldn't believe she'd do that during the performance, especially considering she was maybe 10 feet from the dancers.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Dec 18, 2022 8:20:06 GMT
This was a while ago, but at Eureka Day, the lady next to me kept bringing her phone up to take pictures (I think she was a big Helen Hunt fan?) mid show and the ushers either didn't notice or didn't care even though she was being really blatantly obvious and did it quite a few times.
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Post by kate8 on Dec 18, 2022 10:39:16 GMT
As someone who is also autistic, I completely agree with this point. Relaxed performances, which are supposed to cater for autistic people, would be awful for me. What I want is for everyone in an audience to sit still & shut up! I would LOVE a “sit still & shut up” performance! Don’t know why no one does that - suspect it would be quite popular (and not just with those of us with autism!) I’d love a performance like this - no talking, no late arrivals/early exits (maybe everyone in their seats by 7.20?), no eating, applause only at the end. We could all suggest this in post-show questionnaires. I’ve been to a couple of relaxed performances by mistake. They’re a great idea, but I found it impossible to focus and enjoy the show with all that noise and movement, made worse by it not being dark.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Dec 18, 2022 17:13:20 GMT
I would LOVE a “sit still & shut up” performance! Don’t know why no one does that - suspect it would be quite popular (and not just with those of us with autism!) I’d love a performance like this - no talking, no late arrivals/early exits (maybe everyone in their seats by 7.20?), no eating, applause only at the end. We could all suggest this in post-show questionnaires. I’ve been to a couple of relaxed performances by mistake. They’re a great idea, but I found it impossible to focus and enjoy the show with all that noise and movement, made worse by it not being dark. And no standing ovations.
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Post by Jon on Dec 18, 2022 18:00:19 GMT
People do realise this is bad behaviour at a show and not being a miserable sod at a show. I suspect some people would ban laughter at a comedy gig if they had their way.
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Post by longinthetooth on Dec 18, 2022 18:20:55 GMT
People do realise this is bad behaviour at a show and not being a miserable sod at a show. I suspect some people would ban laughter at a comedy gig if they had their way. You say that. but I actually did get told off once for laughing too much at a comedy!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Dec 19, 2022 8:55:35 GMT
People do realise this is bad behaviour at a show and not being a miserable sod at a show. I suspect some people would ban laughter at a comedy gig if they had their way. You say that. but I actually did get told off once for laughing too much at a comedy! He he Intriguing this one. Told off by the act, ushers or other audience members?
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Post by cezbear on Dec 19, 2022 11:32:06 GMT
This week my favourites have been the mother/daughter with an industrial sized popcorn bucket and the daughter (late teens at the absolute youngest) literally sprawled over the seats in front with her feet hanging fully over like she's slobbed out on her sofa at home. I don't want to hear one cry of 'don't be a snob', how does anyone think that's acceptable behaviour in public fullstop, never mind a theatre?? Special note to the woman shopping on Ebay throughout a performance, incredibly distracting.
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 19, 2022 11:52:38 GMT
Quick disclaimer: my mum's a northerner from Yorkshire so it's not northernist... but... ARGH! We were surrounded at Back To The Future on Monday by the brashest, loudest, most coarse party of northern folk you could ever hope not to meet. Shouting across seats to each other, one particularly loud Karen giving a commentary behind me, a Sharon next to me chirping like a canary and 'talking' to the stage in some kind of basic call and response activity (though the stage never actually called), and a slightly embarrassed Darren two rows in front, desperately trying to disown the party he was with. They stank of cheap wine (smuggled in somehow and covertly poured from a bag), two day old cigarettes (or maybe their pockets were the ashtray) and sickly sweet perfume. It's about time theatre staff sorted these rabble-rousers out. Their gung-ho alcohol induced bravado, heckling actors, and generally being a nuisance really spoilt things for anybody unfortunate enough to sit near them. I think most people (myself included) are nervous when people have had SO much to drink, as you know their judgement will already be skewed and intervention could see a glass in one's face. Such people need to either be priced out or kicked out. I hope they were all violently ill on the coach back up the M1.
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Post by fiyero on Dec 19, 2022 12:33:57 GMT
As someone who is also autistic, I completely agree with this point. Relaxed performances, which are supposed to cater for autistic people, would be awful for me. What I want is for everyone in an audience to sit still & shut up! I would LOVE a “sit still & shut up” performance! Don’t know why no one does that - suspect it would be quite popular (and not just with those of us with autism!) I've said before that the opposite of a relaxed performance, an up-tight performance if you will, would be good except I'm sure somebody would still think the rules don't apply to them. I get distracted by phones all over the place (even by the emergency exit lights which seem to bright at some theatres!)
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