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Post by og on Nov 9, 2022 8:42:03 GMT
I've just seen this retweeted by the POTO Twitter account. I can't decide if it's bad behaviour or amusing enough to get away with it. Im never going to be able to watch the show again without a burning desire to do the same. |
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Post by n1david on Nov 9, 2022 11:12:45 GMT
Wonder what the story was here...
...and here it is
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 9, 2022 11:22:17 GMT
Wonder what the story was here... ...and here it is That's horrific |
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Post by theatrefan77 on Nov 9, 2022 12:28:44 GMT
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Post by Jon on Nov 9, 2022 12:37:13 GMT
How would they find out who did the booing?
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Post by cavocado on Nov 9, 2022 12:42:55 GMT
How would they find out who did the booing? Other audience members might have complained and been able to identify the seat number? |
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Post by og on Nov 9, 2022 12:43:12 GMT
How would they find out who did the booing? Fairly sure enough surrounding audience members would happily point out the culprit to FOH staff |
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Post by h86 on Nov 9, 2022 13:27:07 GMT
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Post by mkb on Nov 9, 2022 14:46:49 GMT
Regarding the ROH incident, because it is such bizarre behaviour, I would want to rule out mental health issues before the public lynching gets out of hand.
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Post by Jon on Nov 9, 2022 14:49:04 GMT
Regarding the ROH incident, because it is such bizarre behaviour, I would want to rule out mental health issues before the public lynching gets out of hand. I'm not sure booing or saying rubbish very loudly would be classed as a mental health issue. |
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Post by alece10 on Nov 9, 2022 16:16:07 GMT
Aren't some ROH audience members notorious for booing if they don't like a performance?
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Post by n1david on Nov 9, 2022 16:36:32 GMT
Aren't some ROH audience members notorious for booing if they don't like a performance? Yes, but not usually during the performance for individual arias or passages; they normally wait until the end and save their boos for the conductor or the director during the curtain call. I've never experienced it during a performance. |
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Post by lynette on Nov 9, 2022 17:47:14 GMT
Aren't some ROH audience members notorious for booing if they don't like a performance? Yes, but not usually during the performance for individual arias or passages; they normally wait until the end and save their boos for the conductor or the director during the curtain call. I've never experienced it during a performance. Never heard booing but have experienced weak applause…. |
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Post by paulbrownsey on Nov 9, 2022 19:11:24 GMT
Really, though, there is precious little moral difference between people rising to their feet to applaud, thus blocking the view of the finale and bows for the people behind, and (to mention something that annoys a lot of people on this board) a drunken hen party singing along and waving their arms and so forth. What a ridiculous statement. If it's ridiculous, it should be very easy for you to point out the significant difference between: 1. Drunk women singing and clapping away and thereby spoiling your enjoyment of the show. 2. You leaping to your feet to clap and applaud and thereby spoiliung the enjuoyment of the people behind you. But there isn't a significant difference. They are both selfish inconsiderate behaviour. |
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Post by paulbrownsey on Nov 9, 2022 19:18:19 GMT
"I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation." In fact, I am sure that all wheelchair-users absolutely hate it when any consideration at all is shown for them and would be much happier if, for instance, if organisations didn't feel they had to provide ramps or lifts for access, dedicated parking facilities, and so forth. They are much more comfortable being disadvantaged. So that's all right, then. My goodness! What an awful amount of effort you put into twisting my words there! No doubt a day well spent. There is, of course, a great difference between providing lifts and ramps to accommodate a theatregoer in a wheelchair, and instructing other audience members that they must not stand in the event of a standing ovation just in case they block someone's view. Not only that, it is also impossible to police. In the middle of a loud standing ovation at the end of a particularly lively show I would not like to be the usher in charge of telling everyone to sit down.I didn't twist your words. You suspect that people in wheelchairs would "feel terribly uncomfortabloe" if people like you had sufficient consideration for those in wheelchairs NOT to block their view by jumping to your feet. I, developing your line of thought, postulated that the same wheelchair people who would hate it if you had consideration for them may also be "terribly uncomfortable" about other forms of consideration being given to wheelchair users. Same line of thought. As for policing, a start could be made if (1) theatre management made an announcement reqauesting no standing ovations, and (2) people like you started to set a good example by curbing your itch to leap to your feet. But you're not considerate enough to do that, are you? |
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Post by steve10086 on Nov 9, 2022 19:30:41 GMT
What a ridiculous statement. If it's ridiculous, it should be very easy for you to point out the significant difference between: 1. Drunk women singing and clapping away and thereby spoiling your enjoyment of the show. 2. You leaping to your feet to clap and applaud and thereby spoiliung the enjuoyment of the people behind you. But there isn't a significant difference. They are both selfish inconsiderate behaviour. It should be very obvious what the difference is. If you can’t see that then I don’t think you’re worth me spending any more time on. Utterly ridiculous! |
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Post by nick on Nov 9, 2022 19:50:14 GMT
I think it's a bit impractical to tell audiences that they have to stay seated during a standing ovation because of who may be sat behind them. It's an unfortunate circumstance but we can't police everything I'm afraid. I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation. "I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation." In fact, I am sure that all wheelchair-users absolutely hate it when any consideration at all is shown for them and would be much happier if, for instance, if organisations didn't feel they had to provide ramps or lifts for access, dedicated parking facilities, and so forth. They are much more comfortable being disadvantaged. So that's all right, then. Are you a wheelchair user? My wife uses a wheelchair and would be very embarrassed if she felt she was inconveniencing anyone else because of her disability. However she, quite rightly, has the expectation that society takes the effort to allow her to take part in normal life by providing lifts, ramps, parking etc. To mix those two up is ridiculous. Would a non-wheelchair user feel comfortable telling all those around them not to stand up? And conversely how would they feel if they were told they were barred from a venue because it wasn't set up for them? A few years ago we felt so mortified for a woman in a wheelchair. It was at the Chapel in the Greenwich Naval College. The concert was delayed and we heard a noise behind us. She was in one of those stairclimbers slowly clanking her way up while the entire audience turned round to watch her. It was a student concert so at least she got to see her child/grandchild perform. |
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Post by sph on Nov 9, 2022 23:33:53 GMT
My goodness! What an awful amount of effort you put into twisting my words there! No doubt a day well spent. There is, of course, a great difference between providing lifts and ramps to accommodate a theatregoer in a wheelchair, and instructing other audience members that they must not stand in the event of a standing ovation just in case they block someone's view. Not only that, it is also impossible to police. In the middle of a loud standing ovation at the end of a particularly lively show I would not like to be the usher in charge of telling everyone to sit down.I didn't twist your words. You suspect that people in wheelchairs would "feel terribly uncomfortabloe" if people like you had sufficient consideration for those in wheelchairs NOT to block their view by jumping to your feet. I, developing your line of thought, postulated that the same wheelchair people who would hate it if you had consideration for them may also be "terribly uncomfortable" about other forms of consideration being given to wheelchair users. Same line of thought. As for policing, a start could be made if (1) theatre management made an announcement reqauesting no standing ovations, and (2) people like you started to set a good example by curbing your itch to leap to your feet. But you're not considerate enough to do that, are you? Am I inconsiderate? Do you follow me around theatres noting my behaviour? I am actually not a big fan of standing ovations myself, personally, but I understand that they happen. You seem to have taken this to a very extreme level, demanding that "people like me" should be more considerate (you and I, thankfully, have not met, so you do not know me, or how I behave in public). I wonder, if you asked them, how many wheelchair users would feel comfortable with theatres asking audiences not to give a standing ovation because of their presence? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 10, 2022 8:25:18 GMT
I think both sides of the standing ovation argument have been fully aired now. I don’t think anyone is going to change their minds and as it’s starting to get a bit personal let’s move on please.
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Post by bimse on Nov 12, 2022 8:41:43 GMT
What baffles me is when people end up in completely wrong sections of the theatre. Surely they must know when they book their tickets whether they are in the Stalls, Dress Circle or wherever? Never mind the wrong section....one poor lady at 'The Upstart Crow' on Saturday found herself in the wrong theatre. She was supposed to be at the Lyric to see 'Get up, stand up'. Cue a very entertaining discussion with people sitting in 'her' seat and much hilarity when the penny dropped! How does that even happen with all the ticket scanning nowadays? I once had someone trying to evict me from my seat, it turned out he had definitely bought a ticket for my seat, but for the day after. They offered him the chance to stay (the show wasn’t full, Petula Clark in Sunset Boulevard) or to return on the correct day. |
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Post by richey on Nov 12, 2022 9:23:29 GMT
What baffles me is when people end up in completely wrong sections of the theatre. Surely they must know when they book their tickets whether they are in the Stalls, Dress Circle or wherever? Never mind the wrong section....one poor lady at 'The Upstart Crow' on Saturday found herself in the wrong theatre. She was supposed to be at the Lyric to see 'Get up, stand up'. Cue a very entertaining discussion with people sitting in 'her' seat and much hilarity when the penny dropped! How does that even happen with all the ticket scanning nowadays? I saw something very similar years ago, back in the early days of Wicked. A couple arrived a few minutes before the show was due to start and found someone in 'their' seats. However it turned out their seats were actually at the Royal Opera House, not Apollo Victoria. It still baffles me how they even managed to get that far without someone pointing out they were in the wrong theatre. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 12, 2022 14:49:28 GMT
Never mind the wrong section....one poor lady at 'The Upstart Crow' on Saturday found herself in the wrong theatre. She was supposed to be at the Lyric to see 'Get up, stand up'. Cue a very entertaining discussion with people sitting in 'her' seat and much hilarity when the penny dropped! How does that even happen with all the ticket scanning nowadays? I once had someone trying to evict me from my seat, it turned out he had definitely bought a ticket for my seat, but for the day after. They offered him the chance to stay (the show wasn’t full, Petula Clark in Sunset Boulevard) or to return on the correct day. What option did he take? |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 12, 2022 15:31:26 GMT
I’m absolutely astonished by this Royal Opera House story.
What a despicable human being to do that- and to a child. Shame on him.
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Post by bimse on Nov 12, 2022 17:14:00 GMT
I once had someone trying to evict me from my seat, it turned out he had definitely bought a ticket for my seat, but for the day after. They offered him the chance to stay (the show wasn’t full, Petula Clark in Sunset Boulevard) or to return on the correct day. What option did he take? He stayed, sat a few rows behind me. I remember he wanted to keep his ticket, but the usher insisted on taking it , I guess so he couldn’t return the following night . I felt it was a good solution, the usher was very helpful. |
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Post by Jon on Nov 13, 2022 1:00:13 GMT
Never mind the wrong section....one poor lady at 'The Upstart Crow' on Saturday found herself in the wrong theatre. She was supposed to be at the Lyric to see 'Get up, stand up'. Cue a very entertaining discussion with people sitting in 'her' seat and much hilarity when the penny dropped! How does that even happen with all the ticket scanning nowadays? I saw something very similar years ago, back in the early days of Wicked. A couple arrived a few minutes before the show was due to start and found someone in 'their' seats. However it turned out their seats were actually at the Royal Opera House, not Apollo Victoria. It still baffles me how they even managed to get that far without someone pointing out they were in the wrong theatre. The wrong theatre is amusing, don't people read their booking email or their tickets? |
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