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Post by cat6 on Apr 2, 2016 22:08:27 GMT
They have those special handbags that have hidden, umm, bladders inside and you can fill them with the poison of your choice. Not sure how you manage tapping out your drink in tight theatre seating. But where there's a will...!
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Post by theatreliker on Apr 3, 2016 10:47:16 GMT
I posted in the Don Quixote thread in the plays section about a mobile phone halting the show yesterday.
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Post by daniel on Apr 3, 2016 11:33:41 GMT
There was an intoxicated woman at the Bodyguard last summer who's hairbrush had a hidden compartment inside full of wine...I never cease to be amazed at the lengths to which people go to get their booze past bag checks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 11:35:16 GMT
They have those special handbags that have hidden, umm, bladders inside and you can fill them with the poison of your choice. Not sure how you manage tapping out your drink in tight theatre seating. But where there's a will...! I have a friend who buys a box of wine then takes the bag out for smuggling-into-theatre purposes. It's pretty glorious.
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Post by n1david on Apr 3, 2016 12:09:42 GMT
A small item from Jay Rayner in today's Observer explains perhaps where Daniel's Bodyguard drunk found the tools of her trade:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 16:11:36 GMT
Oh man, I'd love to drink booze out of a "tampon" in public, can you imagine the faces of the immature men/boys around you? They can't even cope with the idea that tampons exist, let alone that someone might *do* something with one!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 3, 2016 20:18:11 GMT
I'd prefer concert goers go to sleep rather than up and dance in front of me. Like the drunk t**t in front of me kept doing at Adele this week...as well as trying to make conversation with me...as well as slopping his beer over the woman in the row in front. }{€!~<€>~><$!}*<€}<*€<}$}~^}<*>~}$,! Grrrrrrr! People sit down for pop concerts?!!?? Classical music yes but the day I sit down at a concert is the day I stop going
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 3, 2016 21:04:25 GMT
Like the drunk t**t in front of me kept doing at Adele this week...as well as trying to make conversation with me...as well as slopping his beer over the woman in the row in front. }{€!~<€>~><$!}*<€}<*€<}$}~^}<*>~}$,! Grrrrrrr! People sit down for pop concerts?!!?? Classical music yes but the day I sit down at a concert is the day I stop going Don't always have a choice these days. The way the audience is controlled at gigs has taken much of the fun out of it. Apart from the small venues.
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Post by loureviews on Apr 4, 2016 10:14:35 GMT
Someone attempted to take a bottle of wine into War of the Worlds this afternoon. To be fair, they had read the reviews before they went, but after they'd bought the tickets... Nah, I had a great time without the need for wine.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 4, 2016 20:15:01 GMT
Little s**t behind me at "The Comedy About A Bank Robbery" yesterday. About 8? 9? Made some loud but fairly cute comment just as the curtain went up. OK, let it go. It was cute. Then goes on to make 2 other comments - including "skill to pay the bill" during the "water" scene. Inappropriate, obnoxious (you'd need to see the scene to follow what I meant, but you'd understand if you did), and whereas I'd felt slightly concerned that the tot was sitting behind three adults... after that, I sat just that bit straighter and wider in my seat... I've seen the scene & still don't get it but maybe it's better not to? Unfortunately it seems parents are not paying attention to the recommended 12+. I had 2 boys who looked about 8 & 10 in the row in front of me. They were reasonably behaved by children-in-theatre standards, apart from rather a lot of wriggling, but to me the show just doesn't seem suitable for children that young.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 7:19:56 GMT
I do hate when parents don't pay attention to that or at least show common sense in what their little darlings will and won't sit through. Mum had a kid of about 7 kicking her chair and generally being irritating through 'Only The Brave'-I'm no parenting expert by sentimental (long) musicals about WW2 are hardly what I'd be thinking as 'ideal' for 7 year olds to sit through...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 7:53:59 GMT
I don't have a kid, but I've taken kids to shows, and I'm always very aware of them the whole time. I try to book near the end of a row in case we need to make a swift exit, and I make sure they know I won't be answering any questions until the interval or end. (Show of hands: how many of us find that parents noisily explaining things to children are usually doing it off their own backs and not because their child has asked anything? *waves both arms frantically in the air*) I always admire the parents who book tickets for their children but are entirely willing to leave the show and go home long before the end if necessary. It gives the kids experience of theatre, while quietly emphasising that disruptive behaviour doesn't belong in an auditorium, but also means the kids won't develop a neurosis about theatres being that place their parents force them into and won't let them leave or talk or move or do anything. It's a good attitude.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 8:18:17 GMT
Totally! and I've witnessed many a parent/carer doing that-I'm all for bringing kids to theatre, and stretching them as they get older away from purely 'kids shows' but I think it's a case of 'know your audience' and being aware that your child isn't the only one there. If everyone is then it's fab for everyone-I LOVE seeing kids getting into theatre I HATE seeing them bored and disruptive because it probably means they'll be being put off theatre too.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Apr 5, 2016 9:18:07 GMT
I recently witnessed Simon Stephens chaperoning a large group of (perfectly behaved) kids at the theatre, which was vaguely amusing somehow.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 5, 2016 18:29:36 GMT
I think the problem is that a lot of fans of Mischief Theatre are families, and this new one isn't really like the other two as a family show. I did recognise a few groups from Pan in December, interestingly. I've seen the scene & still don't get it but maybe it's better not to Yep, Dawnstar, it really, really is. Also good not to think what the brat's parents let it watch online for it to form the idea... I think that's why this one was given a 12+ rating, to show that it's not family-friendly like the Goes Wrong shows are. Unfortunately it seems parents are ignoring it. When I was that age I think the most adult shows I watched were Gladiators & Blind Date! Evidently today's children are more sophisticated, and not in a good way.
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Post by Jon on Apr 6, 2016 14:38:34 GMT
Given kids are allowed with parents to see films like Jurassic World or Batman v Superman which are at the extreme end of the 12A certificate, maybe parents might think Comedy about a Bank Robbery is suitable.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 6, 2016 19:16:42 GMT
Then they'd be wrong... There's something more "immediate" about things being "live" than on film, too, I'd say. I'd agree with that. I think it's usually more shocking seeing someone "killed" onstage right in front of you than it is on TV. This assumes both deaths are compatible in terms of realism & goriness. How a death is done makes a big difference. The Comedy About A Bank Robbery {warning - considerable spoilers} only actually shows one more death onstage than The Play That Goes Wrong but the deaths are done realistically whereas those in TPTGW are done entirely for comic effect.
By my calculations TCAABR has 4 definite murders, 2 implied murders, 1 attempted murder & 1 attempted suicide. For me that is far too much death for the show to be suitable for young children.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 6:56:45 GMT
I think you make an excellent point about the immediacy of theatre making things way more disturbing, but if you consider the viewpoints of children themselves, I don't know if it really is that bad. It's extremely rare for a child to have a real sense of their own mortality (we all know we're going to die someday, but I was probably in my mid-twenties before I REALLY KNEW that I am going to die someday), so I don't know that they'd necessarily have the same revulsion as us unless it was a particularly young and/or sensitive child, who just doesn't like anything horrible happening and bursts into tears at the drop of a hat. Also death comes up a LOT in children's entertainment and it's generally treated a lot more straightforwardly than in entertainment aimed at adults. You know, if someone good dies it's sad, if someone bad dies it's well-deserved, and death is the standard because psychological torment or being screwed over by the government is just that little bit further beyond childish comprehension. Additionally, theatre is by its very nature unrealistic so unless you're taking them to see Danton's Death at the National (in which case could I borrow your time machine please?), they're less likely to see the act itself as realistic compared with film or television which goes all out with regards to realism and doesn't even have a reassuring curtain call at the end.
Sooo... I'd say it depends on the child, really. I'm not one of these people who thinks it's fine to show a child a violent war movie but god forbid they should see a female nipple, but I do remember what it's like being a child, and where fiction is concerned, it's rare they need to be as protected as a lot of people think they do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 7:06:18 GMT
If it's really unsuitable for young children they need to make that info more prominent. Looking at www.thecomedyaboutabankrobbery.com/ there's nothing on the main page, there's a big mention of "from the makers of Play that Goes Wrong" and the logo is designed to look the same. So you can see why people would assume it's the same kind of show. The only mention I can find of "not suitable for under 12s" is if you click on "Ticket Info" and scroll right down to the bottom of the page. But if you click "Book Now" from the front page you don't see that warning before selecting tickets So I'd say any unsuitably young children attending is the fault of the producers, not the parents!
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 7, 2016 19:16:36 GMT
Xanderl, you are right on their website, and sadly, it does mean kids getting more than parents may want them to on arrival. Yes, I think the "look" of the show - website, posters, etc. - makes it look like a light-hearted crime caper. Which it mostly is for Act 1 & the start of Act 2 but it then gets darker. I'm seeing it again this Saturday matinee and, having just realised today that it's still the Easter holidays, I'll be interested to see how many kids there are in the audience. (At least this time I'm sitting front row so can't have any kids wriggling around in front of me.)
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 7, 2016 19:31:55 GMT
At least this time I'm sitting front row so can't have any kids wriggling around in front of me. You'll just have the little bundles behind you, like I did then, Dawnster. Good luck with that LOL. Until theatres do "adult-friendly" performances where children are banned then that's the best I can do. (I wish to God they would. Likewise museums & stately homes.)
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Post by andrew on Apr 7, 2016 19:58:20 GMT
Until theatres do "adult-friendly" performances where children are banned then that's the best I can do. (I wish to God they would. Likewise museums & stately homes.) For the past year, my problem has less been with children and more with elderly theatre patrons. Mostly for talking to their neighbour, or like tonight at People Places and Things when the octogenarian behind me gasped several times towards the end (fair enough), before bellowing "Shocking!". Completely drew me out of the scene.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 20:12:49 GMT
Until theatres do "adult-friendly" performances where children are banned then that's the best I can do. (I wish to God they would. Likewise museums & stately homes.) Many children are well behaved; many adults are not. What they really need is "moron" and "non-moron" seating sections, as they once did with smoking.
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Post by fiyero on Apr 8, 2016 12:24:38 GMT
Until theatres do "adult-friendly" performances where children are banned then that's the best I can do. (I wish to God they would. Likewise museums & stately homes.) Many children are well behaved; many adults are not. What they really need is "moron" and "non-moron" seating sections, as they once did with smoking. My main memory of Mary Poppins in London was the parents being much worse than the kids! Walking behind the last row of the front block to attend to their child (blocking lots of people's views) and eventually just lifting their child out. I have taken more groups of Scouts (all the way from 6 - 14) than I can count on one hand now and with a short briefing before hand always had great behaviour and often compliments from other patrons.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 8, 2016 13:03:12 GMT
I'm all for child-free zoo and museum dates, but my experience with kids in the audience has almost always also been that the adults are worse than the kids. This has definitely been true at Elf, Cinderella, and Phantom, anyway.
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