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Post by Latecomer on Oct 3, 2024 18:30:29 GMT
Saw the matinee today and excellent production of a fascinating play. Off to Lyric Hammersmith and Nottingham after this week in Oxford. Great acting, a fabulous play and still had messages that resonated today…I love a family play with comment on society too. And nice to see a fairly straightforward production as the script is so strong it doesn’t need bells and whistles! Those who have seen Clydebourne Park and Bethesda’s Palace may well want to catch this! Strong recommend
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Post by david on Oct 3, 2024 18:42:40 GMT
Having had my recent trip to the Leeds Playhouse cancelled whilst travelling there, I've thankfully managed to schedule this in on my upcoming London trip at the Lyric Hammersmith (at a much cheaper price - £15 for the front row stalls). I am glad to read that it was worth rebooking,
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Post by jake on Oct 3, 2024 20:45:09 GMT
Saw the matinee today and excellent production of a fascinating play. Off to Lyric Hammersmith and Nottingham after this week in Oxford. Great acting, a fabulous play and still had messages that resonated today…I love a family play with comment on society too. And nice to see a fairly straightforward production as the script is so strong it doesn’t need bells and whistles! Those who have seen Clydebourne Park and Bethesda’s Palace may well want to catch this! Strong recommend Thanks for this. I am hoping to catch this on one of my trips and it's so encouraging to read that it hasn't been overly embellished or 'reimagined'. I saw a decent production in Liverpool a little less than 10 years ago and was moved to buy the text. I obviously don't just want to see a copy of that production but neither do I want to hear the powerful dialogue and narrative distorted by a self-indulgent director.
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Post by aspieandy on Oct 3, 2024 21:21:46 GMT
Those who have seen Clydebourne Park and Bethesda’s Palace may well want to catch this! Fwiw, Kwame Kwei-Armah seems keen to imagine a 'trilogy' that includes his play, but I do struggle to include his work alongside those of such important - and great - writers as Lorraine Hansberry and Bruce Norris. A Raisin in the Sun and Clybourne Park won great accolades and awards, the third not yet a Wiki entry, though when in charge Kwame did put it on at the Young Vic: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Raisin_in_the_Sun#The_Raisin_Cycle
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Post by Latecomer on Oct 3, 2024 21:24:24 GMT
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Post by Phantom of London on Oct 3, 2024 21:46:47 GMT
Saw the matinee today and excellent production of a fascinating play. Off to Lyric Hammersmith and Nottingham after this week in Oxford. Great acting, a fabulous play and still had messages that resonated today…I love a family play with comment on society too. And nice to see a fairly straightforward production as the script is so strong it doesn’t need bells and whistles! Those who have seen Clydebourne Park and Bethesda’s Palace may well want to catch this! Strong recommend Booked
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Post by aloysius on Oct 9, 2024 22:18:25 GMT
Strong recommend from me as well now that it's ensconced in Hammersmith. Saw it this evening - excellent production, great cast, nice set design - and above all, an absolute classic play that still has loads to say. It feels so much more relevant than those featuring in the Almeida's Angry and Young season - they missed a trick by not staging this. I saw Clyborne Park at the Park Theatre a few years ago and thought that one of my plays of the year - it's great to now get a chance to see the play that inspired it in such a strong production.
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Post by Dave B on Oct 15, 2024 22:30:16 GMT
Heads up, this is either running long in the Lyric or is 165minutes plus interval, a shade under three hours this evening.
It is however excellent. Cast and script shine. Simple but elegant direction and set and costumes etc - clearly thought out to be enough to simply let a classic play out.
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Post by jr on Oct 17, 2024 12:36:00 GMT
Cheap ticket for tomorrow evening available on noticeboard.
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Post by jr on Oct 19, 2024 6:39:23 GMT
Something was missing for me in this production. I still remember a production in 2004 at the very same Lyric that was fantastic: moving and funny, with top-notch acting. I didn't like the set, I thought it was ugly and boring. The acting was fine but I found the actor playing Ruth overly dramatic and the one playing Walter too brash. I think Walter is frustrated but also loving and couldn't see that here. Beneatha was fun and lively but then it is my favourite character. I left at the interval, not because it was bad but because it didn't match my expectations. The play is fantastic but I think it deserves a better production. I'm curious to see the TV adaptation with Audra McDonald. m.imdb.com/title/tt0808435/?ref_=tt_sims_tt_i_2Not sure if it will match the film with the original Broadway cast. www.imdb.com/title/tt0055353/
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Post by schuttep on Oct 21, 2024 10:44:45 GMT
This is a brilliant production, beautifully acted. It's one of Michael Billington's 101 Greatest Plays and it's clear why.
Just a bit annoyed with the frame around the set cutting off feet sometimes. Isn't the proscenium arch enough?
Nice bookend to Bruce Norris's Clybourne Park which I also loved - to the extent that I visited Clybourne Park when I went to Chicago in 2019!
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Oct 21, 2024 10:55:09 GMT
I thought this was great. Really enjoyed all the performances. I had only seen Clybourne Park prior to this so it was nice to get further context from this piece.
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Post by SilverFox on Oct 21, 2024 15:36:04 GMT
This is a brilliant production, beautifully acted. It's one of Michael Billington's 101 Greatest Plays and it's clear why. Just a bit annoyed with the frame around the set cutting off feet sometimes. Isn't the proscenium arch enough? Nice bookend to Bruce Norris's Clybourne Park which I also loved - to the extent that I visited Clybourne Park when I went to Chicago in 2019! The frame around the set seems to be causes massive problems at Nottingham. Odd because they are a co-producer of the production, but it seems to have taken them by surprise, and they are having to rejig the seating plan, recategorising an extraordinary number of seats as restricted view - the front 3 rows have been taken off sale completely, up to 6 seats on the left side and 3 seats on the right marked as Restricted View and sold at below Band D (cheapest) price. As all RV seats are currently empty I assume that people there have been moved - but our Band C seats are now repriced downwards - now classed as Band D, right next to the RV seats, and I only noticed because I checked to see how busy the theatre was going to be. Dynamic pricing in action - but it feels fraudulent when you are encouraged to book early (in our case last June) for the best choice of seats!
Surely the designer should have taken into account the venues involved? Why has it taken Nottingham until the past two weeks to realise, when the production moved on-stage early September in Leeds?
I moaned (politely) and we have been upgraded to more central seats, but the Playhouse seems to care little about the people who regularly buy tickets - it is far from the first time that detrimental changes have been made by the box office / admin with little or no warning given.
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Post by merrilywereadalong on Oct 22, 2024 3:12:26 GMT
Saw this tonight from the front row and indeed be warned the stage is EXTREMELY high (completely baffling to me as there didn't seem to be any reason for the playing space to be raised to THAT high a level) It MOSTLY didn't bug me but it was a very much from the waist up viewing experience. And annoyingly there are several stretches where a character sits at the table only to be completely blocked from sight from the downstage chair.
That being said inspite the mentioned above, this is still very much worth seeing even if I found some of the acting occasionally to be lacking (the performances range from good to solid but I sort of kept hoping for them to drop in a bit more), this is still one of those plays that always wins. It's a scorcher of a play and was a thrill to sit amidst a shockingly well behaved schoolgroup who were on the edge of their seats and deeply engaged with the emotional highs and lows of this masterpiece. If you've never seen Raisin before it's worth making the treck to Hammersmith
...just NOT from the front few rows
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Post by david on Oct 23, 2024 22:34:37 GMT
As the saying goes, good things come to those who wait and after the disappointment of having my viewing in Leeds cancelled a few weeks ago, rebooking for the London leg of the tour was so worth it and at £15 front stalls was an absolute bargain to watch this stunning piece of theatre. To get the negative stuff out if the way, yes sitting stalls front row (A8) does offer a viewing restriction (no mention of this on the ticket or from the box office when I phoned them up earlier in the week) of the back of the set and you do miss people’s feet due to the large blue frame (which offers nothing to the overall set design and completely pointless to have in my opinion) surrounding the set but I found that a minor inconvenience tonight and when the play is of such high quality I forgot it was there. It is just something to think about for folk who have got tickets for rows A-C. Also, the running time is closer to the 3hr mark as despite a 7.30pm start, I only left the theatre around 10.30pm.
In terms of the overall product, director Tinuke Craig and the entire creative team and cast have created a 5⭐️ product here and what first appears a daunting runtime flew with bringing Lorraine Hansberry’s classic play to the stage. Full of heart, humour, hope and despair the play might be nearly 60 hrs old but has easily stood the test of time and the issues that if examines when it was first written are still sadly very relevant to a 2024 world. The whole cast work their socks off in delivering the text and I can’t fault anyone here. Like a few other board members have noted seeing this along with Clybourne Park works well as a pairing. The set design from Cecile Tresmollieres and costumes from Maybelle Laye are simple but highly effective in allowing both the text and performances to take centre stage and shine brightly on the Lyric stage.
Please do go and see this one. It will be worth it.
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Post by Latecomer on Oct 24, 2024 8:14:54 GMT
It’s a story as old as time….money, insiders and outsiders, prejudice, trying to better yourself, how we are sometimes stuck in the lives we have….and mix in some human emotions and sibling rivalries and BINGO….I found the performances here excellent and as you say, the director has trusted the play. Glad you managed to see it david
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Post by hamletothello on Oct 24, 2024 8:20:43 GMT
I saw this on Tue evening. It is beautifully staged and still a compelling story. The accents were a little inconsistent but I enjoyed most of the performances. I loved the use of the scrim at the sides and the sense of claustrophobia created by the boxed-in set. It was lovely to be sitting with such a responsive audience, including a group of school children. They gasped, laughed and groaned. It felt like a communal experience. I highly recommend. Some of the lines still feel (sadly) so relevant.
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Post by ploverlover on Nov 1, 2024 10:33:22 GMT
I’m so glad I managed to catch this one. Thoroughly enjoyable evening watching a great play with a really responsive audience. Unfortunately, someone”s phone went off in the last minute of Act 2, made worse by a loud ‘I’m so sorry’, repeated a few times.. so I completely missed what was probably a vary poignant and important moment at the end. Annoying! The Lyric was packed which was also great to see. Like others have mentioned, I initially hated the blue frame as it seemed unnecessary and restricted our view from the front row. To be fair, I stopped noticing it after a while. 4 stars from me.
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Post by lt on Nov 1, 2024 12:23:05 GMT
I thought this was a really strong classic production with a powerful opening. What a tragedy Lorraine Hansberry died at 34, who knows what else she might have gone on to achieve. Although it's a long play, due to the quality of the writing and narrative it doesn't feel it at all and I believe it deserves a West End transfer. Though I recognise no particularly well known cast members. The cast were all excellent and I felt their acting just got better and better as the play developed. The strongest scene of all for me was when the chair of the white neighbourhood organisation comes to have a "chat" with the family about their plans to move into the area. Walter's response - played by Solomon Israel - was the performance of the night.
And I loved the staging, I thought the plywood walls really illustrated the fragility of existence and the semi[-transparent spaces when the cast went off stage, allowing you still to see them were really effective at underlining the powerful emotions in the play. The irony in a story all about the thwarting of dreams is while Walter is desperate to achieve his plans, he seems to have little sympathy for his sister's desire to become a doctor. So feminism still waiting to happen...
So that was all great, but there was one huge downfall to the evening and I know we have a separate thread for bad behaviour but this was so extreme, it pretty much ruined my night and I can't really separate it from watching the play. I've been to the Hammersmith Lyric many times and last night was the worst behaviour I have seen in a theatre. I have always sat in the stalls before, but last night was sitting in the third row of the circle. Firstly, there were continual late arrivals until 2010, who made little attempt to sit down quickly or show any awareness that they were stopping others seeing the play, and for some additional reason, the ushers were continually going in and out.
But far worse were the continual conversations throughout the play behind, in front and to the left and right of me. To the extent that although there is absolutely nothing wrong with my hearing, I missed a number of lines in the play. Then the man to the left of me had a mobile phone and his alarm went off several times and he got out his phone to text at some length, when I asked him to stop, he said that it wasn't bothering me, quite how he made that judgement who knows? So he continued to text. And the woman on the other side of me for some reason, made comments aloud to herself about the play throughout the course of the evening.
While the crinkling of crisp packets and sweets can be annoying the noise from eating last night was on another level. Even worse in the second half, was the woman directly behind me, goodness what she was eating, but again loud enough to mean I missed some lines.
Then as ploverlover mentions someone's phone went off just at the end, but that wasn't even the worst of it. At the same time, a woman directly in front of me decided to stand up, so everyone else had to stand up to let her out, I assumed she must be ill but no, for some reason, she then remained standing at the end of the row, so I could neither hear nor see the ending.
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Post by aspieandy on Nov 2, 2024 9:40:52 GMT
Generally concur with comments.
Interesting to view some of this subject matter through a 1958 lens in, what was effectively, a partially apartheid society (for the most part, the areas that the Supreme Court hadn’t yet reached).
I’d forgotten how oblique Lorraine Hansberry needed to be – for example, no mention here of racially restrictive covenants (a decade later established as illegal), or of her family connection to events.
I was reminded of just how outstanding Clybourne Park is; Raisin is excellent as a stand alone work, but together .. a piece of real art. They should really be seen in rep, imo. You’d need two sets of consent for that which might be the problem.
Clever what Hansberry does with the African character. I imagine Bruce Norris reading that and nodding away. They would have enjoyed one anothers company.
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Post by thaneofglamis on Nov 9, 2024 11:15:52 GMT
I saw this in Nottingham earlier in the week and enjoyed the play, performances and staging. I’m especially glad to have seen it staged given its history and legacy in cultural significance.
I normally enjoy Nottingham Playhouse as a setting, but there were moments, particularly in the first act when characters are speaking into the rear of the stage, when I struggled to hear clearly. I think the staging/set design impacted the normally excellent acoustics which was a shame. I noticed the first 3 rows and the extreme ends of each row in the stalls were left free - presumably because of the high and narrow set - but the view looked fine from the front rows and a number of people did seem to move forward at the interval. I was sat in row 6 (3rd on sale) and had a great view.
It also wasn’t the best audience to sit with unfortunately. Phone rang, murmuring around me from a small group that left at the interval, but absolutely constant rustling of sweets or food (I mean constant - they must have had an endless supply!). Thankfully I was sat well away, but even so it was a distraction and I felt for those closer to the culprit(s)!
Its a shame to give so much focus to these points because I really did enjoy the performances and staging (despite the issues I think it caused) and would still recommend it.
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Post by jake on Nov 10, 2024 10:36:22 GMT
There’s a week left to see this in Nottingham and all I can do, after yesterday’s day trip and matinee, is add my recommendation to the generally positive opinions already given.
I was encouraged by the assurances given here that this is a largely faithful production that trusts the audiences to make up their own minds about the relevance of this mid-20c narrative rather than ‘reimagine’ it or throw in 2020s references. From what I remember of an earlier production and my reading of the script, this new production is pretty much what I imagine Lorraine Hanberry intended* (I’ll confine anything that might seem a spoiler to footnotes).
I was baffled (and remain baffled) at the set. What was achieved by setting the scene yards behind the front of the stage and then raising it several feet above I don’t know. Perhaps there are technical reasons beyond my immediate understanding but it does rather seem a restriction without much compensatory advantage. But it’s not that bad and, as thaneofglamis mentions above, people could choose (as I did) to grab one of the empty seats in rows A-C for the second half (Indeed, yesterday a couple seemed to plump for that right from the start). When booking, be aware that the plan is a bit misleading. I booked row D on the assumption that rows A-C would have been removed (they don't show on the plan at all) but they weren’t. I thought I’d booked the front row but my leg room was restricted by the backs of the unsold seats in row C so I decided the very slight difference in perspective was a price worth paying for extra comfort in the second half. I wasn’t the only one. Audience behaviour was not nearly as bad as at the Almeida recently. In the early minutes there was some loud and persistent rustling behind me but when I looked round I saw the culprit was already getting fixed looks from his neighbours. It died down very quickly.
I thought the performances were excellent. Josephine-Fransilja Brookman captured Beneatha’s exuberance, optimism and innocence while still getting across Hansberry’s specific direction that she is ‘not as pretty’ as Ruth (Cash Holland). Doreene Blackstock as Lena (Mama) is a study in compassionate dignity and Solomon Israel is superb in the moving role of Walter, who is called on to be hero, villain and victim – sometimes all at once. Honestly, though, I didn’t think there were any weaknesses in the cast.
This play isn't put on often enough in my opinion. I advised my London friends to see the Hammersmith leg of the tour before I'd even seen this production myself. Now I'm suggesting to my northern friends that a day trip to Nottingham for one of the two remaining matinees (with the caveat that the timing of the 1330 Thursday show seems to have 'school parties' written all over ii!)
* Possible spoilers I thought Jonah Russell gave Karl Lindner a rather unequivocally negative portrayal compared to the previous production I saw where he seemed more genuinely conflicted by the job he’s been sent to do. In particular, his parting I hope you people know what you’re doing sounded very much like an out-and-out threat rather than concern for their welfare. Either interpretation is, of course, valid; but I thought the way the earlier production presented him was more in tune with the way I read the script.
In general, though, the script (including Hansberry’s one use of the-word-that-can’t-even be uttered-in-discussion these days) survives unscathed. There seem to have been a few little snips but no real sign of bowdlerisation. The only exception might be that they seem to have missed out Ruth’s telling Beneatha 'You can’t go out with the poor boy looking like that' (owtte) – but maybe I just had an absent moment when that line was delivered.
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Post by SilverFox on Nov 15, 2024 15:02:27 GMT
I saw this in Nottingham earlier in the week and enjoyed the play, performances and staging. I’m especially glad to have seen it staged given its history and legacy in cultural significance. I normally enjoy Nottingham Playhouse as a setting, but there were moments, particularly in the first act when characters are speaking into the rear of the stage, when I struggled to hear clearly. I think the staging/set design impacted the normally excellent acoustics which was a shame. I noticed the first 3 rows and the extreme ends of each row in the stalls were left free - presumably because of the high and narrow set - but the view looked fine from the front rows and a number of people did seem to move forward at the interval. I was sat in row 6 (3rd on sale) and had a great view. It also wasn’t the best audience to sit with unfortunately. Phone rang, murmuring around me from a small group that left at the interval, but absolutely constant rustling of sweets or food (I mean constant - they must have had an endless supply!). Thankfully I was sat well away, but even so it was a distraction and I felt for those closer to the culprit(s)! Its a shame to give so much focus to these points because I really did enjoy the performances and staging (despite the issues I think it caused) and would still recommend it. I thought this was rather like the curates egg (excellent in places) yesterday, all performances were good, some outstanding, and the play holds up well, but possibly due to the distraction caused by the terrible audience (see the bad behaviour thread) elements of the writing jarred, and the set design was simply awful IMO.
I was sat in stalls J12 (top band) and could only just see the right wall of the set, anyone in J1 to J11 would not. The same the other side, so in a row of 33 seats only 11 had a full view of the stage. Not acceptable in my view. The side 'lift' at the end was not worth the effort and, whilst seeing the cast assemble before entering worked occasionally, when the possibility of them overhearing something said on-stage added to the piece, it mostly was distracting. How could the designer get the sightlines so wrong, and how did the Lyric and Playhouse not realise at a very early stage that there would be avoidable problems? I agree that the set design probably caused some of the sound issues whenever the cast were in the kitchen, as the NP is a well designed theatre, and I have not had difficulties before.
Within the writing there is little sense of mourning the father - whose death must have been relatively recent if the insurance was due - Lena the mother, now matriarch (Doreene Blackstock excellent), now appears to be strong but appears to have been submissive (?) to her husband, and has a better elationship with her daughter-in-law than either of her own children. Walter Lee (Soloman Israel also excellent) has to veer uncomfortably between alcoholism and sobriety whilst dealing with his place in the pecking-order. Beneatha (Joséphine-Fransilja Brookman) is ill-drawn in the writing and ought to be less flippant and more strong in her determination to escape. That said the situation is compelling, and many of the issues raised are sadly very much relevant today. The relationships between the characters was, in the main, fascinating and believable.
Very much well-worth seeing, but could have been better.
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