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Post by theatreliker on May 6, 2024 20:54:28 GMT
I'm watching the final on TV at the moment between Wilson and Jones. There's been a lot of talk lately about the possibility of the World Championships leaving the Crucible when the contract is up. So, if that happens, what impact would this have on the Crucible as a producing theatre? I assume they rely on the Championships for income each year.
This has been fuelled further this year by several players complaining about conditions in the Crucible, and rumours of a breakaway tour forming in Saudi and the far East. Even the head of the World Snooker Tour, who in 2022 said that the Championships would NEVER leave the Crucible in his lifetime is now considering change and is being tempted by the lucrative offers of overseas investors,it seems. His preference is to stay in Sheffield but at a new venue. But is it reasonable to expect local government to fund this?
For those who love and romanticise the Crucible, I think the consensus is that it could do with a revamp and possibly expanding. But how do you achieve this? Financially, where does investment come from to do this? Secondly, how do you achieve this logistically? The foyer space wraps round most of the auditorium so you can't easily add wings on to extend the seating. And a busy road runs next to the theatre anyway. And thirdly, how would an extension affect the theatre? The snooker is there for 3 weeks a year. The other 49 are made up of theatre. And for all the world class theatre the Crucible produces, I've never seen it full. This isn't the Snooker Tour's problem but is a consideration.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2024 23:41:26 GMT
The Crucible only holds 980 people and the World Snooker Championship could easily pull in a couple of thousand per session. The Masters snooker at Ally Pally has a set up of about this size and sells out.
The Crucible would only get the rental fee from World Snooker and obviously the bar and refreshment takings. The logical place to move it to might be Sheffield Arena but the venue would need to be forward booked each year. The venue seems to be showing its age and with more broadcasters wanting to cover the event I imagine it is a tight squeeze.
I think the World Championships should stay in Sheffield but it needs a new venue. World Snooker is a commercial business and with talk about players breaking away to form their own circuit they cannot be nostalgic.
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Post by Jan on May 9, 2024 8:27:58 GMT
I don't think the Crucible will make all that much money from the snooker will they ? It is just like they're hosting 3 weeks of a touring production. Amusing to hear some of the players suggest that it should be knocked down and rebuilt with a 2000 capacity - no thought at all for the other 49 weeks of the year when 1000 seems about right for a producing theatre. If they move it to Saudi they will only need an audience capacity of a couple of hundred - moving it or sharing it with China seems far more logical.
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Post by Latecomer on May 9, 2024 18:49:18 GMT
Been to the crucible for the snooker - was great- the year Mark Williams won. I think probably brings a lot of money into Sheffield (we stayed in accommodation for mini break and ate out, used public transport, saw other things etc) . I like it as a cosy venue with lots of atmosphere. Think it’s rubbish about the capacity- if you watch snooker regularly then you will see tournaments in China with almost no audience!!!! So it’s just a case of how much you sell the TV rights for…not the audience numbers! I vote to keep it in Sheffield!
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