Permission to block, from Carrie

Has Carrie not banned this thread yet? Maybe she's just blocked us all on Twitter.

I'd imagine she wrote the book, what with her barely GCSE level English skills and inability to differentiate between "affect" and "effect" (not to mention many many other grammatical faux pas'), she would be very much suited to such an important task. If this musical ever does surface, and the female lead is a two dimensional morality goon with a Disney-like name and a hyper-sensitive personality then we'll know Ms Hope Fletcher was involved in that department. Having said that, it's more likely her brother did all of the work and her contribution was complaining a lot and seizing every opportunity to ride off his success.

I hope not or those at stage door tonight might find themselves getting the brunt of it!

She doesn't do stage door any more since working class folk like us ruined it for her. Or something like that.

Her fans make Kerry Ellis fans look calm by comparison!

I read the title of the thread and took it to mean I had permission to block her so i did.

Oh god we'll be all burnt at the stake!

I confess I read the first book. Well "read" I skimmed it. It's as you might imagine poorly written and full of similar fairly condescending advice as the videos are. Oh and there's a sickening forward that includes a Q&A from her boyfriend, which may be awkward if they break up...

Firstly, judging by the tweeted photos, she IS still doing Stage Door, after some shows at least. That aside, there have been discussions aplenty elsewhere on the Board about fans' expectations re Stage Door and I'm firmly in the 'lovely bonus if it happens but absolutely not part of the ticket price' camp. And theatres have many doors, George! 

But I do think Carrie makes a rod for her own back by so actively courting the adoration of her (mostly very young) fans, and berating them when they expect 'too much' from her does seem a tad ungrateful!

Yeah I think I wasn't really thinking when I said what I said before. I've booked to see Chitty but not because of who's in it, but because of the show but the people in the show are an added bonus. 

I really like Carrie personally! She is a talented young lady, she has written a Number 1 Bestselling Book in her own right with a second one coming out this month. The first was quite good, having read it myself. The reason I think she may come across as arrogant is to do with the whole YouTuber vibe. It is a common thing between a lot of them that they come across arrogant. Having met her in person, she was lovely at stage door to me. Through YouTube alone, they are well known for no reason whatsoever. This causes a fandom that can be uncomfortable. In truth, I can't blame her for not doing stage door. Toward the end of Les Mis, it was crazy. Carrie has her own career outside of YouTube. Whether having a famous brother helped her or not to get into the industry, it has been her and her management who has kept her in the industry.

I do wonder if anyone would bat an eyelid and call her arrogant if she was just musical theatre and didn't do YouTube?

I remember my daughter showing me some of her 'You Tubes' (is that what you kids call it?) and playing me some of her original material, and then when she went into 'Les Mis' I took her to see it and met Carrie afterwards who was very sweet and charming. This was about 3 years ago now though...I now just feel embarrassment when I read some of the tweets and thinly disguised cash ins, which is a crying shame becasue I believe her to be a phenomenally talented singer and performer. Sure make some money out of it, but don't assume that people have a) heard of you, b) give a sh!t and c) or conversely are out to get you. Some genuine humility would also go a long way to smoothing over peoples ruffled feathers.

I don't think anyone is obsessing, and I don't think it's got nasty either (although I've gone 'ouch' a couple times reading the replies in this thread admittedly).

The thing is, she's quite prolific on social media and is definitely using it to her own ends. In one of her YouTube vids (which I'm finding hugely enjoyable for all the wrong reasons) she posts the cover of her new book on instagram and watches as the shares get to 300 within a matter of a few seconds (that's how it's portrayed anyway). And did you know if you pre-order said new book you get a chance to win tea with Carrie? Or how about purchasing a ticket to attend her book signing? Yep, buy a ticket to buy a book!

Now, none of this is illegal, she is cashing in on her popularity and that's fine, she seems very astute or is being advised in a way to generate business. She has a long life ahead of her and times may not always be this good. BUT if you put this amount of product out there you've got to accept people commenting on it surely? You're right, we could just ignore all of her output but she works in an industry where she puts her work on display and then people respond to it, positively or otherwise. This is normal life for her.

Youre right, we shouldn't allow discussion to descend into nastiness or personal attacks (and we won't allow it). But that doesn't mean we're not allowed to have a joke about Carrie's world does it? Let's just make sure we keep it on the right side of funny. 

Honestly, I'd never even heard of the woman until you guys started posting about her. And I was quite happy with that.

I guess I just don't understand the impulse to hate-watch her Youtube videos or follow her social media accounts, just for the purpose of criticising her on here.

But you really want to, could it possibly be kept on one thread, instead of starting a new one each time?