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Post by nash16 on Nov 15, 2023 10:08:39 GMT
Icke is, as always, just photocopying what his daddy, Ivo van Hove, has done before. I feel his whole career is so unoriginal in this respect. The running time of this a prime example. 4 hours is only losing about 40 to 50 minutes of material. That isn't a cut, it is a light trim. Given how repetitious the plays are, there is no reason why the run time for a cut version should exceed 2hrs 30 including interval. 80 minutes for part one and 60 for part two. 4 hours is cruel on audiences and actors.
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Post by Rory on Nov 15, 2023 10:09:30 GMT
This will be no small feat as McKellen will be 85. I agree 4 hours is an endurance test for everybody.
I wonder why it didn't go to an ATG venue given they are producing it?
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Post by Jonnyboy on Nov 15, 2023 10:17:28 GMT
I was ready to book tickets for a few people and they’ve all dropped out at hearing the running time!! 😂
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 15, 2023 10:27:20 GMT
This will be no small feat as McKellen will be 85. I agree 4 hours is an endurance test for everybody. I wonder why it didn't go to an ATG venue given they are producing it? Thankfully Falstaff is not on stage throughout. And in a 4 hour version, he will get breaks
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Post by cavocado on Nov 15, 2023 10:34:34 GMT
I was ready to book tickets for a few people and they’ve all dropped out at hearing the running time!! 😂 Ha ha, yes I'm hoping that will shorten the queue for tickets!
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Post by mkb on Nov 15, 2023 12:07:27 GMT
Who thought 18:30 was a suitable start time on week nights in Wimbledon? No wonder provincial theatre is the preserve of the retired. Basically no-one who works normal working hours can do this unless (a) they work next door, (b) they take annual leave, or (c) they do the Saturday matinée. I reluctantly went for (c) and pray that the football game I'm going to is rescheduled for Sunday.
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Post by Dave B on Nov 15, 2023 12:09:48 GMT
Would anyone with access today be able to give prices for Wimbledon please and thank you?
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Post by david on Nov 15, 2023 12:16:13 GMT
1sr preview price for Wimbledon Dave B
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Post by Jonnyboy on Nov 15, 2023 12:17:54 GMT
Gone for a Saturday as I can’t be sure I can be there for 18:30 on a weeknight. £75 centre front row! Can’t wait! Although with it being four hours and on front row, can’t sleep!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 15, 2023 12:20:54 GMT
Manc prices
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Post by mkb on Nov 15, 2023 12:28:25 GMT
Gone for a Saturday as I can’t be sure I can be there for 18:30 on a weeknight. £75 centre front row! Can’t wait! Although with it being four hours and on front row, can’t sleep! In Wimbledon, it's even better value at £55 for the front row stalls. Second row there is £75.
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Post by Jonnyboy on Nov 15, 2023 12:34:23 GMT
Gone for a Saturday as I can’t be sure I can be there for 18:30 on a weeknight. £75 centre front row! Can’t wait! Although with it being four hours and on front row, can’t sleep! In Wimbledon, it's even better value at £55 for the front row stalls. Second row there is £75. Ah, you can get £55 front row in Manchester if you do opening night and go for the end of the row, but as a previous poster said 18:30 is not feasible for most people working that day.
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Post by david on Nov 15, 2023 12:37:03 GMT
Booked for the sat night show in Manchester. Front row seeing IM in a Shakespeare play should be special.
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Post by parsley1 on Nov 15, 2023 13:22:17 GMT
£45 for Wimbledon opening night front row for ATG card
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 13:26:43 GMT
Chimes at Midnight is superb Yes it is. As an adaptation of the plays it is OK - it cuts out various quite dull rebellions and so on which give the wider political context and focusses on the main characters and their relationships. As such it is a little bit like the cut versions of Hamlet that we almost always get. I'll have to watch this never seen it, Welles as Falstaff was one of the perfect roles that could ever be thought up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 13:32:11 GMT
Again Sir Ian playing Falstaff past his 85th birthday shows amazing durability.I wonder if he'll wear padding/fat suit as that over a several month run will make the role an even bigger physical undertaking.
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Post by themanfromstratford on Nov 15, 2023 13:42:39 GMT
Does anybody know how the under 30s tickets will be able to be accessed when they go on sale?
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Post by Jon on Nov 15, 2023 13:43:31 GMT
I know ATG has had success with pre West End runs at Richmond and Brighton but Wimbledon and the Opera House are huge! This will be no small feat as McKellen will be 85. I agree 4 hours is an endurance test for everybody. I wonder why it didn't go to an ATG venue given they are producing it? Technically, it is going to ATG venues with the runs in Wimbledon and Manchester but I suspect it's theatre availability plus the DoY is smaller both stage wise and capacity than the Noel Coward.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 15, 2023 14:33:38 GMT
Again Sir Ian playing Falstaff past his 85th birthday shows amazing durability.I wonder if he'll wear padding/fat suit as that over a several month run will make the role an even bigger physical undertaking. Does Falstaff need to be obviously fat? In the same way as when teenagers think of anyone over 25 as being old, slender youths can too often think that anyone who isn't slim and toned is fat, ugly and call them out as such. Sometimes that is done with affection. Sometimes it is done with real cruelty. Given how many of the descriptions of Falstaff come from Hal, I think it can be viewed as the immature behaviour of a younger man
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Post by Rory on Nov 15, 2023 14:45:30 GMT
The artwork possibly suggests modern dress??
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 15, 2023 15:02:22 GMT
The artwork possibly suggests modern dress?? I tend to assume commercial Shakespeare productions will be. Or certainly not in traditional dress. Seems very rare to have Shakespeare performed in traditional costume (outside RSC/The Globe)
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Post by Jan on Nov 15, 2023 16:01:05 GMT
Again Sir Ian playing Falstaff past his 85th birthday shows amazing durability.I wonder if he'll wear padding/fat suit as that over a several month run will make the role an even bigger physical undertaking. Does Falstaff need to be obviously fat? In the same way as when teenagers think of anyone over 25 as being old, slender youths can too often think that anyone who isn't slim and toned is fat, ugly and call them out as such. Sometimes that is done with affection. Sometimes it is done with real cruelty. Given how many of the descriptions of Falstaff come from Hal, I think it can be viewed as the immature behaviour of a younger man From memory David Warner wasn’t notably fat in the Michael Boyd cycle. Miscast, but not fat.
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Post by Jan on Nov 15, 2023 16:02:33 GMT
The artwork possibly suggests modern dress?? I tend to assume commercial Shakespeare productions will be. Or certainly not in traditional dress. Seems very rare to have Shakespeare performed in traditional costume (outside RSC/The Globe) When was the last RSC production in “traditional” Elizabethan costumes ?
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 15, 2023 16:27:20 GMT
I tend to assume commercial Shakespeare productions will be. Or certainly not in traditional dress. Seems very rare to have Shakespeare performed in traditional costume (outside RSC/The Globe) When was the last RSC production in “traditional” Elizabethan costumes ? Maybe there isn't. I don't pay attention too much tbh to RSC so I didn't like to assume. I just know every time I see a commercial production it always seems to be concept or modern in some way.
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Post by richey on Nov 15, 2023 16:29:20 GMT
I was ready to book tickets for a few people and they’ve all dropped out at hearing the running time!! 😂 I quickly booked a ticket for opening night in Manchester without looking at the times and regretting it now.
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Post by Jan on Nov 15, 2023 16:55:20 GMT
When was the last RSC production in “traditional” Elizabethan costumes ? Maybe there isn't. I don't pay attention too much tbh to RSC so I didn't like to assume. I just know every time I see a commercial production it always seems to be concept or modern in some way. Traditional costume is very much the exception rather than the rule at the RSC, I couldn't remember the last production though someone will know. Heritage Shakespeare is very much the sole preserve of The Globe.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 15, 2023 16:55:52 GMT
I tend to assume commercial Shakespeare productions will be. Or certainly not in traditional dress. Seems very rare to have Shakespeare performed in traditional costume (outside RSC/The Globe) When was the last RSC production in “traditional” Elizabethan costumes ? I was thinking the same thing. I don't think the Roman plays being done in togas count. But full Elizabethan is now very rare in Stratford. The Tennant R2 was period dress but not Elizabethan. But the LLL with Tennant was. And that was 15 years ago. How many since then?
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Post by Jon on Nov 15, 2023 17:03:49 GMT
The only RSC Tudor period play in recent years was The Mirror and the Light.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 15, 2023 17:13:18 GMT
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Post by Jonnyboy on Nov 15, 2023 17:14:29 GMT
I was ready to book tickets for a few people and they’ve all dropped out at hearing the running time!! 😂 I quickly booked a ticket for opening night in Manchester without looking at the times and regretting it now. If you’d prefer the matinee you have free ticket exchange with ATG+ remember
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