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Post by distantcousin on Feb 28, 2024 13:08:40 GMT
I've booked my tickets. The promo is convincing me more and more. Famous woman on the verge of a mental breakdown, you say? TAKE MY MONEY!! Just hope the music isn't typically Wainwright, and is he's writing something a bit more 'musical theatre' for this.
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Post by karloscar on Feb 28, 2024 19:24:33 GMT
What qualifies as typically Wainwright? He's always been pretty versatile writing in a wide variety of styles. I can appreciate that some find his voice off-putting (it took me a while to warm to it) but his writing has always had a touch of the theatrical and he often writes for character rather than constantly about himself.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 29, 2024 11:25:10 GMT
Very intrigued to see how the style of that song fits in with the Ivo Van Hove aesthetic
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Post by Boob on Mar 3, 2024 14:41:27 GMT
Elaine Paige repeated the song “Magic” on her R2 show today. I have to say, I adore the orchestration and it suits SS’s voice so well. Excited to see this later this month. Not sure a musical about putting on a play needs the video treatment we’ve seen so much of in London in the past few months, but going with an open mind.
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Post by mattnyc on Mar 3, 2024 15:34:23 GMT
Elaine Paige repeated the song “Magic” on her R2 show today. I have to say, I adore the orchestration and it suits SS’s voice so well. Excited to see this later this month. Not sure a musical about putting on a play needs the video treatment we’ve seen so much of in London in the past few months, but going with an open mind. Is this show using a lot of video screens? I don’t think I’d see that anywhere.
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Post by jaggy on Mar 3, 2024 16:25:03 GMT
Elaine Paige repeated the song “Magic” on her R2 show today. I have to say, I adore the orchestration and it suits SS’s voice so well. Excited to see this later this month. Not sure a musical about putting on a play needs the video treatment we’ve seen so much of in London in the past few months, but going with an open mind. Is this show using a lot of video screens? I don’t think I’d see that anywhere. I think it’ll be very similar to Ivo’s All About Eve - video screens showing the characters backstage. That’s what the cast mentioned us seeing in the rehearsal video.
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Post by mattnyc on Mar 3, 2024 17:07:59 GMT
Ah, totally missed this video - thank you!
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Post by max on Mar 3, 2024 18:25:07 GMT
43 mins 30 secs into the Elaine Paige Radio 2 show (3rd March) for Sheridan Smith singing magic.
Agree with thoughts above, nice bustling and brassy orchestrations. Song's good, apart from the lyrics in the middle eight where lots of syllables land on an unnatural stress. Sheridan sounds good, and along with the fact she's experienced fragility when performing, it will probably be propelled by a 'Sheridan tests herself again, and wins again' buoyancy.
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Post by hannechalk on Mar 5, 2024 10:33:29 GMT
Apparently they are doing a 'Sunset Boulevard' - as part of the performance Sheridan will be filmed live outside every performance which is then streamed into the theatre, appearing very intoxicated making her way there.
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Post by lotster on Mar 5, 2024 10:41:33 GMT
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Post by budd on Mar 5, 2024 11:06:17 GMT
Given that van Hove did that first with Network, it's him returning to his own device, rather than copying.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 5, 2024 11:07:38 GMT
I love how people think that the use of cameras in Sunset was new and innovative rather than something that every other play has been doing for a decade
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Post by lotster on Mar 5, 2024 11:08:14 GMT
Given that van Hove did that first with Network, it's him returning to his own device, rather than copying. Ah OK. I was unaware of that. I guess Sunset is very fresh in my memory. Will be interested to see how this works out.
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Post by knutinkerbell on Mar 5, 2024 11:08:16 GMT
Whilst Sunset used it as an effect - the song is called „sunset boulevard“ not „strand“ ;-) - in my opinion it may make sense for the storyline in this case. To find the actress in a state of mind outside the theatre in the street.
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Post by mkb on Mar 5, 2024 11:31:09 GMT
Given that van Hove did that first with Network, it's him returning to his own device, rather than copying. He did it six months earlier in Roman Tragedies at the Barbican, and presumably before that in Amsterdam.
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Post by hannechalk on Mar 5, 2024 11:47:22 GMT
I love how people think that the use of cameras in Sunset was new and innovative rather than something that every other play has been doing for a decade If you want to aim criticism at my perceived ignorance and be pedantic about it, at least have the guts to @ me. I am well aware it has been used before - but since the effect during Sunset Boulevard was covered and hyped on every type of media, with crowds turning up just to watch it being filmed, it will not come as a surprise that every play or musical it can be woven into, the production company will most likely insist it is used now.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Mar 5, 2024 12:27:13 GMT
Given that van Hove did that first with Network, it's him returning to his own device, rather than copying. He did it six months earlier in Roman Tragedies at the Barbican, and presumably before that in Amsterdam. he's been doing it for almost a decade. though sunset managed to do it and sync up singing outside and orchestra inside, which ivo hasn't done
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Post by nash16 on Mar 5, 2024 12:32:55 GMT
Yes, the shock of the “new” use of cameras and onstage filming seemed to surprise only the non-play goers in the Sunset thread.
Whereas the play people have been enjoying/not enjoying it for years.
Lloyd rehashed things from years earlier (and mainly from European directors: like Icke with his magpie-ing).
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Post by andrew on Mar 5, 2024 13:11:35 GMT
I understand it's good marketing but releasing that clip seems a bit tacky and cheap, taken out of context.
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Post by shambles on Mar 5, 2024 14:33:21 GMT
And even the Snook Dorian Gray with all its camerawork was first devised and staged three years before Sunset, another production accused of copying from Lloyd.
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Post by jaggy on Mar 5, 2024 14:45:13 GMT
Katie Mitchell’s work featured cameras and screens years ago.
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Post by hannechalk on Mar 5, 2024 14:45:17 GMT
I understand it's good marketing but releasing that clip seems a bit tacky and cheap, taken out of context. Can you imagine people knowing Sheridan Smith's unfair reputation, then seeing her stagger apparently drunk to the theatre whilst missing the whole context? My dad was known for liking a drink - then he started tripping over his feet often, slurring his words regularly, losing his balance, falling off his bike or swaying all over the road, sometimes in the mornings... The village gossips were having a field day - 'Look at him, the absolute drunk, no shame at all.'. They were all symptoms of MND - he died within two years. Some people apologised to my mum for what they had said about him, without knowing the facts.
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Post by gmoneyoutlaw on Mar 5, 2024 15:48:38 GMT
Katie Mitchell’s work featured cameras and screens years ago. Blue Man Group - Tubes featured camera work outside the theatre 30 years ago in NYC.
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Post by max on Mar 5, 2024 19:57:30 GMT
Oh dear, that's some pretty bad impro in the (too long) clip. Need to find some further things for 'the director' character to say, or it just sounds like impro run dry of ideas. Still, if this is all they're doing of the outside filming it's not such a big part of the show. How long before people shouting 'Hi Sheridan' causes them to play in a recording instead? With 'Sunset Boulevard' your casual passerby didn't know Tom's name.
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Post by mjh on Mar 5, 2024 20:57:38 GMT
Anyone have an idea on running time for this yet?
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Post by A.Ham on Mar 5, 2024 22:16:48 GMT
Very much looking forward to seeing this on Thursday… and especially intrigued that they’re going for the on-street filming. Can’t wait to see how it all fits together!
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Post by theatrelover123 on Mar 5, 2024 22:21:02 GMT
Oh dear, that's some pretty bad impro in the (too long) clip. Need to find some further things for 'the director' character to say, or it just sounds like impro run dry of ideas. Still, if this is all they're doing of the outside filming it's not such a big part of the show. How long before people shouting 'Hi Sheridan' causes them to play in a recording instead? With 'Sunset Boulevard' your casual passerby didn't know Tom's name. Not so much Opening Night as Amateur Hour imo
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 5, 2024 23:04:03 GMT
Why do I feel like this show is going to be a car crash?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Mar 5, 2024 23:20:24 GMT
How can it be a car crash when they are filming on the streets? Can you imagine it in this day and age? Not just filming… but outside the theatre…..on the street. It’s mindblowing when you think about it. Revolutionary
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 5, 2024 23:32:49 GMT
How can it be a car crash when they are filming on the streets? Can you imagine it in this day and age? Not just filming… but outside the theatre…..on the street. It’s mindblowing when you think about it. Revolutionary That’s true. Never been done before. Extraordinary
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