Brexit

I never said it was a choice between leave or remain, I said against Mays deal or a no deal. Mays deal will not come without accepting Brussels still influencing certain things. If we leave we don't have a seat at the table to have a say on those rules on a soft brexit (like Norway for example). I'd rather we leave completely than have a half hearted agreement where we have to adhere to some rules we have no say in anymore.

End of the Pier, Park Theatre

On initial impressions a cheesy seventies throwback, in reality one of the best state of the nation plays of the year.

Well, that’s a fair enough opinion to hold, but rather confusing when we were just talking about if people would change from their original referendum vote.

but the question is not as simple as that so why would I?! the discussion in the news and what has recently been put forward is a referendum on the deal, or a new three option referendum. The government have already said it will respect the initial vote. Yes if a simple referendum like last time is offered then I'd vote remain but that is highly unlikely to happen, thankfully as it was a dumb question in the first place. and why they didn't stipulate a certain clear majority had to be passed god only knows. If treason were still a thing there are many politicians I'd like to see in the tower for their handling of this

The EU is really at risk of falling apart, and their sheer arrogance to not think 'could we make some changes to stop this growing antiEU attitude'is only going to help. speaking to a group of Finnish people in a small town in Finland they were glad we are leaving because we voted yes for the lightbulb regulations which is having a big negative impact on them. Now I'm not doing what others do and make a sweeping statement that all of Finland is against us or the EU, but it shows how even small and some may say petty rules can have larger impacts. Ruling so many different countries and cultures so generally doesn't really work as each area has specific requirements and reasons why they may do something, so to be told you have to do it this way but people with no idea will annoy people.

What annoys me about people going on about jobs, the economy etc yes that's obviously important, but what about the people and situations that have been affected negatively by being in the EUbut have been ignored for years. it's this attitude that got us in the first place. People going 'well it doesn't affect me so it's all good' Now it unfortunately will affect others and they understandably are angry. also project fear has so far been proven to be as much as a lie as the whole NHS thing so the public have lost complete trust with all sides. Yes we havent left yet, but project fear was just as unclear as the leave campain.

Sadly I've had to study a lot on brexit in the last two years for my degree and after various seminars, research , lectures etc what it boils down to is no one actually knows how this is going to work out and that it's purely guess work. I've actually been surprised how some lecturers/speakers, based on their backgrounds and businesses, had voted. There are opportunities and pros to leaving, but it is a huge risk and we will likely have to make concessions but just to other countries instead of the EU anyway. Everyone is voting on their emotion, both sides of the argument, it just depends on how you're personally affected as to how you're going to vote.

Some parts of the country feel thats what other parts of the electorate have inflicted on them for decades c/o Thatcherism.

May is an absolutely useless negotiator. At this rate the country will end up with the worst possible outcome - out but in.

I'm sorry, ca i just put this out there? Did anyone else think that Theresa Mays dancing on the news last night was the most horrific thing was the most horrific thing I've seen all week?

A senior ex-BoE economist who I happen to be married to suggests that anyone who claims to have a definitive perspective on the state of the economy in, say, five years is probably peddling a political line rather than a genuine economic forecast.

The simple fact is that there are too many possible outcomes, with very different economic effects, to be definite about anything. A no-deal exit where the EU decides to abide by the letter of the treaty gives very different outcomes to a soft exit where we remain aligned to EU regulations and in the single market in all but name. (To be clear, in this post not making a statement about which is better; just pointing out they are very different).

I realise that's not helpful but perhaps something to consider as you read other opinions.