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Post by greenandbrownandblue on Feb 4, 2024 14:47:39 GMT
Saw this yesterday afternoon. Won't say much other than the acting is superb and the writing is extremely good. Hardly a word out of place. It builds beautifully.
I wasn't enamoured with The Ferryman, but I loved Jerusalem and especially The River. And the revival of Mojo I saw at this venue ten or so years ago was very good too.
One things from yesterday's matinee: I was front row (good view, just miss feet but can't go wrong for £40). However outside was a helicopter monitoring the protest march going down Haymarket. I could hear it clearly for the entirety of the first act (presumably the sound insulation in the fly tower isn't great), and it took me a bit of time to tune it out.
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Post by harry on Feb 4, 2024 14:48:06 GMT
Interesting interview with Jez Butterworth in the Sunday Times today. He's very candid about the reason this went straight to the West End, rather than having an initial run at the Royal Court: "I spent ten years going to see everything that was on there after Jerusalem, but I don't really feel a connection any more." Oof.
I’m hardly surprised. The RC programming in recent years has been woeful. And clearly it’s not just Jez who feels this given their nearly non-existent box office takings and terrible current financial position as recently reported. The word on the grapevine is that the new AD has recently made the whole literary department redundant which seems an odd move for a theatre whose mission statement is all about new writing. But maybe he has some clever plan to woo back good writers like Jez… Specifically on this play and its journey, I think Sonia Friedman used The Ferryman as a test for audience appetite for a new Jez Butterworth play after Jerusalem regardless of casting. When Jerusalem was previewing at the Royal Court they literally couldn’t give tickets away - a 3+ hr show about a lout in a caravan with an actor whose name meant nothing at the time to Joe Public. Even after its huge West End (x2) and Broadway success they couldn’t know if it was Mark Rylance who had become a star, and Jez Butterworth had remained relatively more niche. Of course it turned out Jerusalem had indeed made a star of Jez too and The Ferryman became the fastest ever selling show at the Royal Court with the transfer announced almost immediately. So this time around they knew Jez was enough (Sam Mendes’ name doesn’t hurt either!) to launch it without a run at a subsidised theatre to build the appetite and get the reviews first.
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Post by harry on Feb 4, 2024 14:54:38 GMT
P.S. I’m aware the above skips over The River but they did that thing where you could only buy day seats and the theatre only held about 100 people, and then Broadway had Hugh Jackman in it so it didn’t tell anyone much about the size of the appetite for Jez himself.
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Post by alexandra on Feb 4, 2024 15:07:17 GMT
I think a lot of older people just don't know when their phone is on silent or not. As a millennial I can assure you my phone has been on silent since 2012. If it made a single sound in public ever I would die. Oh do f*** off. Sorry, sph . I don’t mean it. But really.
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Post by sophie92 on Feb 4, 2024 18:20:19 GMT
Another one who was at the matinee yesterday (seems it was something of an unofficial TheatreBoard takeover!). 5 stars from me. I thought it was uniformly excellent - the play itself, the design, the performances - and I found it deeply moving. I don’t have much more to add that hasn’t already been said.
Also to note, I was on an aisle of the Dress Circle so could make a very quick getaway, but I’d made it to Trafalgar Square by 17:00 and Charing Cross by 17:04 (from a 14:00 start time), so it came in at a little under 3 hours.
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Post by theatreliker on Feb 4, 2024 19:52:17 GMT
Don't suppose someone could gift the Times article could they please?
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Post by theatregoer22 on Feb 4, 2024 20:17:49 GMT
I've seen a few people on here asking if their are rush tickets for this and the answer, according to Theatre Monkey, is not at the moment, but that may change after previews.
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Post by Rory on Feb 4, 2024 20:30:04 GMT
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Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2024 20:56:53 GMT
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Post by meister on Feb 5, 2024 16:14:28 GMT
When are the press in for this?
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Post by alessia on Feb 5, 2024 16:32:58 GMT
When are the press in for this? Timeout critic told me on twitter he would see it on Wednesday this week, so I am expecting reviews on Thursday...I am really interested to see what they all make of it.
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Post by andrew on Feb 5, 2024 17:54:22 GMT
Another one of the SatMat crowd here, mid stalls did not notice a helicopter but did spot the enormous protest happening one street over whilst entering the theatre, bit of drama before you've even started.
It's a fantastic play, really enjoyed it. Acts 1 and 2 are stronger than Act 3 in terms of impact, I think I was expecting a bit more plot to occur towards the end than what we got, but I'm not complaining too hard. Laura Donnelly was terrific, and as others have pointed out it's great to see a play centring around women, sisters, mothers. I wondered if it actually fails the reverse Bechdel test, to make a nice change. Definitely one to see.
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Post by meister on Feb 5, 2024 18:59:00 GMT
When are the press in for this? Timeout critic told me on twitter he would see it on Wednesday this week, so I am expecting reviews on Thursday...I am really interested to see what they all make of it. Thanks! Me too!
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Post by orchidman on Feb 5, 2024 23:51:56 GMT
A very good play but I think it falls short of being great. Jez Butterworth is not a writer blessed with real intellectual depth, and yet he can make that feel irrelevant with his big strengths of energy and atmosphere. The Hills of California isn't as vital as Mojo, Jerusalem or The Ferryman.
Partially that's because this feels like a mish-mash of things we've seen before, and sometimes seen before once or twice too often.
It takes a little too long to get going and then when Laura Donnelly shows up again towards the end you feel it should kick into top gear and it doesn't quite get there.
I would have liked the grown-up Joan to appear earlier and to be more reflective, she was the character who had the potential to give the play oomph.
It's amusing but not hilarious, touching but not emotive, inventive but not inspired.
It's still going to be one of the best new plays of the year and a must-see for any serious playgoer. At 54, and without being prolific, maybe Jez Butterworth will have one more big play in him, maybe not. It's a young man's game.
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Post by stevemar on Feb 6, 2024 9:19:11 GMT
I enjoyed this, but probably not as much as many of the posters here. The writing is heartfelt and the female characters are given space to breathe. It’s still a good play, but it didn’t speak to me personally so much at the time. I have thought about it more after, so it’s sinking in. I expected more from Act 3, but the behaviour was consistent with the effects of upbringing and versions of events in different ways on them: happysooz2, afterwards, I have since wondered if it was a bit obvious each sister may be a “type”. This is “event” theatre because it’s Jez Butterworth and Sam Mendes. It seems more minor key to me, and felt understated in the storyline (lacking the shocks of the Ferryman). That’s fine as the playwright shows a different side, but fell a little short for me. 4 stars from me. PS. Thanks to greenandbrownandblue for the tip for row B, now front and good view a little up and across to the stage. I love the tips from this forum.
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Post by frankubelik on Feb 6, 2024 9:44:07 GMT
Slightly disappointed in this. I think we've seen the family dynamics and characters before but the overall quality of performances was excellent. I also felt Act 3 lacked pace and I questioned the behaviour of one sister which seemed inconsistent with previous acts. Partisan audience who seemed to find laughter in many of the lines.
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Post by Dave B on Feb 6, 2024 10:36:45 GMT
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Feb 6, 2024 23:18:36 GMT
I had been avoiding this thread until I was in myself, glad I can finally read the discussion. Definitely agree with the consensus so far, really enjoyed this (actually preferred it to Jerusalem) and thought the acting was terrific.
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Post by rumbledoll on Feb 7, 2024 14:55:23 GMT
Just saw that Rush tickets are now avail via TodayTix app. Fab news, good luck to all bookers!
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Post by takeabow on Feb 8, 2024 0:04:35 GMT
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Post by andrew on Feb 8, 2024 0:14:59 GMT
I'm so surprised she still has her job. It's outrageous.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Feb 8, 2024 0:20:23 GMT
3 stars in the Independent too. 4 and 5 stars elsewhere
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 8, 2024 0:45:42 GMT
It’s weird. Even the 4 star reviews read like 2 or 3 stars
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Post by sfsusan on Feb 8, 2024 1:19:08 GMT
I think a lot of older people just don't know when their phone is on silent or not. Oh, please. I'm 73 and perfectly capable of putting my phone on silent, or DND, or airplane mode or even turning the darn thing off to prevent it from bothering people (including myself). And I'm not unique among my friends. (My pet peeve is smart watches that spring to life with every movement of someone's arm.)
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Post by sph on Feb 8, 2024 1:36:48 GMT
It’s weird. Even the 4 star reviews read like 2 or 3 stars Perhaps when a playwright has attained a particularly high level of success, people become hyper-critical. Maybe even just to make themselves seem a little more "edgy" by not following popular opinion.
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