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Post by Marwood on Jun 9, 2023 12:12:16 GMT
I have booked front row Upper Circle for one of the nights at the Duke of York in October, not tempted to go the whole hog and pay a small fortune for stalls.
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Post by londonpostie on Jun 9, 2023 16:12:00 GMT
Well, the lad doesn't lack confidence .. Initially, I did wonder if this might tread on Tom Littler's feet but not the case.
I don't much care for monologues -inc. Scott's Sea Wall at the Old Vic - but, obv., curious to know what he plans to do here in, presumably, a solo-but-not-monologue-performance-piece. Interesting.
It surely isn't going to be some anti-Putin platform: please don't ar$e around with Chekhov
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Post by theoracle on Jun 9, 2023 23:12:37 GMT
Sorry but £125 for a one man show just isn’t justifiable. Andrew Scott is amazing and will be brilliant in this but this surely can’t be right. Also it’s Simon Stone adapting this.. hesitant to book as I thought Phaedra was highly questionable earlier this year.
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Post by sph on Jun 10, 2023 0:59:21 GMT
So... having never seen one of these types of shows, how does it work. Do they actually play every character in the play? Jumping between voices/mannerisms etc?
I've seen one-person shows, but only when they were written to be for one person. If it's clearly supposed to be a number of characters played by a full cast like Macbeth for example I think I'd find myself just sitting there wishing I was watching a full production.
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Post by Jan on Jun 10, 2023 7:16:05 GMT
Sorry but £125 for a one man show just isn’t justifiable. Andrew Scott is amazing and will be brilliant in this but this surely can’t be right. Also it’s Simon Stone adapting this.. hesitant to book as I thought Phaedra was highly questionable earlier this year. It’s Simon Stephens. I saw his adaptations of Cherry Orchard and Three Sisters and they were unobjectionable.
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Post by Jan on Jun 10, 2023 7:17:27 GMT
So... having never seen one of these types of shows, how does it work. Do they actually play every character in the play? Jumping between voices/mannerisms etc? I've seen one-person shows, but only when they were written to be for one person. If it's clearly supposed to be a number of characters played by a full cast like Macbeth for example I think I'd find myself just sitting there wishing I was watching a full production. When Tommy Cooper used to do them he’d put on a different hat for each character.
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Post by Rory on Jun 10, 2023 7:34:54 GMT
So... having never seen one of these types of shows, how does it work. Do they actually play every character in the play? Jumping between voices/mannerisms etc? I've seen one-person shows, but only when they were written to be for one person. If it's clearly supposed to be a number of characters played by a full cast like Macbeth for example I think I'd find myself just sitting there wishing I was watching a full production. Andrew Scott is a superb actor and he will be great, no doubt, but this type of show just doesn't appeal to me greatly. I too would likely sit watching it wishing it was a fully cast production. I have seen some great one person shows- Scaramouche Jones with the late, great Pete Postlethwaite always springs to mind- but they are not generally my favourite type of show.
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Post by Steve on Jun 10, 2023 16:48:30 GMT
So... having never seen one of these types of shows, how does it work. Do they actually play every character in the play? Jumping between voices/mannerisms etc? I've seen one-person shows, but only when they were written to be for one person. If it's clearly supposed to be a number of characters played by a full cast like Macbeth for example I think I'd find myself just sitting there wishing I was watching a full production. Andrew Scott is a superb actor and he will be great, no doubt, but this type of show just doesn't appeal to me greatly. I too would likely sit watching it wishing it was a fully cast production. I have seen some great one person shows- Scaramouche Jones with the late, great Pete Postlethwaite always springs to mind- but they are not generally my favourite type of show. I completely understand this point of view. But having seen a few "Uncle Vanyas," for me, it's precisely having the one actor playing all the parts that is intriguing to me. Especially since Andrew Scott is one of the best stage actors there is, able to convey emotion like almost noone else. In particular, having one person embody three such different types of masculinity that are Vanya (defeated caustic childlike whiner), Astrov (romantic wise alpha male) and the Professor (pedantic insensitive father figure) stands to be fascinating and revealing. For me, my main concern about this is how difficult it will be to maintain the tragicomic tone throughout, so that we can laugh and cry and be enlightened all at once: It would be easy to get alienated from the real horrors at the heart of the play and laugh raucously at everything from a distance, and it would be equally easy to get overly serious, to avert the above criticism, and miss laughing at ourselves, which for me, is a great deal of the point of the play: you laugh morbidly so you can survive the horrors. If anyone can get this right, it will be Andrew Scott, who can find the heart of characters so well, and reveal everything that is funny and everything that is tragic about the human condition simultaneously. This could easily be a season highlight, I feel, precisely because one person stands in for the whole human condition, as we all do in our own lives. Fingers crossed.
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Post by Jan on Jun 10, 2023 17:07:43 GMT
In particular, having one person embody three such different types of masculinity that are Vanya (defeated caustic childlike whiner), Astro (romantic wise alpha male) and the Professor (pedantic insensitive father figure) stands to be fascinating and revealing. No comment from anyone that he's also playing three of the more significant women's roles in classic drama ? Where's the justification for that ? Making it a two-hander with him and an actress playing all the female roles would have been better for all sorts of reasons.
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Post by londonpostie on Jun 10, 2023 17:52:39 GMT
I don't know he is playing the full cast, or script. The title is just 'Vanya'. My thought was it might be chiefly an exploration of the character.
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Post by Steve on Jun 10, 2023 18:06:57 GMT
In particular, having one person embody three such different types of masculinity that are Vanya (defeated caustic childlike whiner), Astro (romantic wise alpha male) and the Professor (pedantic insensitive father figure) stands to be fascinating and revealing. No comment from anyone that he's also playing three of the more significant women's roles in classic drama ? Where's the justification for that ? Making it a two-hander with him and an actress playing all the female roles would have been better for all sorts of reasons. I think there is something of the feminine in every man, and something of the masculine in every woman, and having a man play female parts can be just as revelatory as having a woman play male parts. Jodie Comer's males in "Prima Facie" were every shade of masculine, and every shade of human too, for example. There have been, and will be, so many iterations of this play that I don't begrudge this one production for depicting all of human nature in one actor. If Jodie Comer cares to play all the parts of "Uncle Vanya," I'd book that too, in a heartbeat.
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Post by Rory on Jun 10, 2023 19:44:51 GMT
Andrew Scott is a superb actor and he will be great, no doubt, but this type of show just doesn't appeal to me greatly. I too would likely sit watching it wishing it was a fully cast production. I have seen some great one person shows- Scaramouche Jones with the late, great Pete Postlethwaite always springs to mind- but they are not generally my favourite type of show. I completely understand this point of view. But having seen a few "Uncle Vanyas," for me, it's precisely having the one actor playing all the parts that is intriguing to me. Especially since Andrew Scott is one of the best stage actors there is, able to convey emotion like almost noone else. In particular, having one person embody three such different types of masculinity that are Vanya (defeated caustic childlike whiner), Astrov (romantic wise alpha male) and the Professor (pedantic insensitive father figure) stands to be fascinating and revealing. For me, my main concern about this is how difficult it will be to maintain the tragicomic tone throughout, so that we can laugh and cry and be enlightened all at once: It would be easy to get alienated from the real horrors at the heart of the play and laugh raucously at everything from a distance, and it would be equally easy to get overly serious, to avert the above criticism, and miss laughing at ourselves, which for me, is a great deal of the point of the play: you laugh morbidly so you can survive the horrors. If anyone can get this right, it will be Andrew Scott, who can find the heart of characters so well, and reveal everything that is funny and everything that is tragic about the human condition simultaneously. This could easily be a season highlight, I feel, precisely because one person stands in for the whole human condition, as we all do in our own lives. Fingers crossed. You have made me want to see it now, Steve!
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Post by Jan on Jun 10, 2023 19:57:42 GMT
No comment from anyone that he's also playing three of the more significant women's roles in classic drama ? Where's the justification for that ? Making it a two-hander with him and an actress playing all the female roles would have been better for all sorts of reasons. I think there is something of the feminine in every man, and something of the masculine in every woman, and having a man play female parts can be just as revelatory as having a woman play male parts. Jodie Comer's males in "Prima Facie" were every shade of masculine, and every shade of human too, for example. There have been, and will be, so many iterations of this play that I don't begrudge this one production for depicting all of human nature in one actor. If Jodie Comer cares to play all the parts of "Uncle Vanya," I'd book that too, in a heartbeat. He’s taking parts away from actresses when there are fewer good parts for women in classic drama anyway. So far all we’ve heard to justify a one-man approach is that they think there are similarities between Vanya and Astrov. Actually the more interesting parallels are between Vanya and the Professor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2023 12:57:20 GMT
He's not taking parts away from anyone since this is intentionally a one-person show built around Scott's talents and celebrity. It is not as if he was cast over women for the female roles.
No one is being stopped from mounting Uncle Vanya in any other form and casting it as they see fit. A commitment to equity and inclusion does not automatically mean shows like this should not be produced.
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Post by stevesometime on Aug 2, 2023 15:29:17 GMT
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Post by cavocado on Aug 2, 2023 15:44:54 GMT
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Post by stevesometime on Aug 3, 2023 11:35:24 GMT
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Post by rumbledoll on Aug 4, 2023 10:37:48 GMT
One front stalls ticket is for sale at Noticeboard if anyone's interested, Richmond run.
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Post by rumbledoll on Aug 6, 2023 14:45:33 GMT
Vanya ticket now sold. Does anyone know how can I delete the post from the noticeboard or edit it? Thanks!
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 6, 2023 14:51:30 GMT
Vanya ticket now sold. Does anyone know how can I delete the post from the noticeboard or edit it? Thanks! I happened to be online, so I've deleted it for you.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 6, 2023 15:55:12 GMT
Vanya ticket now sold. Does anyone know how can I delete the post from the noticeboard or edit it? Thanks! I happened to be online, so I've deleted it for you. But if he hadn’t been on line, the way to get a notice deleted us to PM one of us.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Aug 25, 2023 13:08:38 GMT
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Post by rumtom on Aug 25, 2023 18:20:51 GMT
Thanks for that! Got in there to sneak the last ticket available.
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Post by rumtom on Aug 26, 2023 21:48:31 GMT
I have just been to see this tonight. Andrew Scott is clearly very talented and this is an interesting take - and was the first attempt, so I don't intend to be overly critical, because there were many positives.. but I thought this stayed on the surface. It's partly the fact that half the audience were in hysterics at inappropriate parts and because I suppose the amount of characters he played meant that no real depth was reached for any of them. But it still was enjoyable and had a lot of potential, presumably they will review and cut a few bits and build on character development a bit more.
It reminded me of Ian M and Patrick S doing Waiting for Godot, which took one of the great plays/my favourite and turned it into pantomime. And who can blame them when you have an audience that just wants to see actors they love and want to have a fun night out.
If, in Vanya, they lost some of the purposeful gags early on it might temper it slightly and earth one of the great plays on the subject of the human condition.
But Andrew Scott definitely drew a younger audience and that is a good thing. I love the way he distinguished characters with various mannerisms and objects, and will see it again when it's further down the run. A very impressive performance overall.
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Post by drmaplewood on Aug 26, 2023 21:57:30 GMT
I was there too, found it quite hard work unfortunately. Partly down to how uncomfortable the seats in the upper circle are (I'm 6ft 6) but also just couldn't get into the rhythm of it and by the halfway mark was quite bored. Scott is still great to watch but at the moment feels he's performing to the stalls as there were several points where I couldn't hear him. Points where he's literally whispering need to be projected more but sure that will be ironed out, I won't be revisiting though.
1hr 50mins straight through, a few walkouts.
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