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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 14, 2018 19:04:22 GMT
Where is the warehouse? 🙂
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Post by Jon on Sept 14, 2018 19:40:17 GMT
I was thinking earlier about the discussion on the Wicked thread about the possibility of the show downsizing to a smaller theatre when ticket sales fall and it made think of a question (with several parts). Obviously shows pay rent to the theatre they’re performing at, but how is this level of rent decided? And is it subject to renegotiation later on? For example, is there a flat rate for every theatre, e.g. if you go into the Wyndham’s you pay X per week, X increasing slightly above inflation every year, or do they assess the size of the show, how successful it’s going to be etc? If the ticket sales are poor but nobody really wants the theatre, can it be negotiated downwards, or conversely if it’s selling out every night and there are a few shows that want West End theatres, can they force them to pay more to keep the theatre? I can think of a few examples where a successful show moves when the theatre owner wants the theatre for a new show like Les Mis at the Palace, ALW wanted to do refurbishments as well as wanting it for The Woman in White so he negotiated with Cameron Mackintosh to let him move Les to the Queens and also transfer the lease and freehold early. I could be wrong but wasn’t one of the reasons Blood Brothers closed was because their old contract expired and the new contract increased their rent substantially?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 5:29:11 GMT
Where is the warehouse? 🙂 Like I said, in his back garden...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 7:28:44 GMT
That's not a back garden. That's a back county.
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Post by david on Sept 15, 2018 7:44:04 GMT
I bet that “back garden” must be a nightmare to keep tidy. Though I would love to have a look around the warehouse to see all the props and costumes he’s stored away. It’s a pity that it’s hidden away. I bet there’s enough stuff in there to put on an exhibition in a museum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 9:22:17 GMT
Obviously shows pay rent to the theatre they’re performing at, but how is this level of rent decided? And is it subject to renegotiation later on? An interesting point about rent is that it goes up if a show has no interval to make up for the theatre’s loss in bar takings. Which is why shows which were done straight through sometimes get an interval added when they transfer or tour And if I recall correctly in the case of “Death and the Maiden” at the Harold Pinter theatre, an interval was added part way through the run, presumably to get costs down as it was selling badly
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 13:03:43 GMT
Blimey, Tell Me On A Sunday is only about 20 minutes long isn’t it?
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Post by welsh_tenor on Sept 16, 2018 20:36:19 GMT
Question I’ve always wondered... do swings get paid more than an ensemble member? They have to know multiple tracks so there’s a lot more to keep on top of than having a single track, but then they don’t go on all the time so does that balance it out for the same rate?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 20:40:53 GMT
Why is a theatre actually called a "house"?
e.g. "You'll be sitting in the stalls, and the house opens in 10 minutes" "There are receiving houses and producing houses"
And I remember hearing someone saying "Mamma Mia moved house a while ago" and it sounded pretty funny.
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Post by jaqs on Sept 17, 2018 14:27:14 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Sept 17, 2018 19:42:49 GMT
Who writes program bios? Is it the actor, the agent, or a combination of both? Or is it totally case-by-case?
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 17, 2018 20:49:12 GMT
Both, either, case by case. I guess as a rough generalisation, agents are more likely to have a biog on file for established actors, while newer actors or those acting in smaller productions are more likely to be asked to email one over. If you work for the same company like say the RSC a lot they probably just re-use the same one. (I noticed Chris Eccleston's bio pointedly doesn't include what many would consider one of his best known-roles, I'd love to know if that's him being petty or his management being diplomatic.)
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 17, 2018 21:04:26 GMT
Why are the photos which appear next to the bios always completely unrecognisable from the actor on stage in front of your very eyes?
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Post by theatremadness on Sept 17, 2018 22:03:45 GMT
Why are the photos which appear next to the bios always completely unrecognisable from the actor on stage in front of your very eyes? Because we're too cheap to get new headshots taken! If that photo is still getting you jobs years later, you're quids in.
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Post by Dr Tom on Sept 17, 2018 22:17:43 GMT
Why are the photos which appear next to the bios always completely unrecognisable from the actor on stage in front of your very eyes? Because they want to think they still look like that person! Just like dating profile pictures.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 17, 2018 22:58:17 GMT
Or because your wife fancies herself an arty amateur photographer and you're too nice to suggest maybe professional headshot photographers are able to charge so much for a reason coughdavidtennantcough.
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Post by cheesy116 on Sept 18, 2018 0:15:47 GMT
Do touring actors get extra money to pay for hotels/digs or does it come out of their normal pay ?
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Post by theatremadness on Sept 18, 2018 0:37:02 GMT
Do touring actors get extra money to pay for hotels/digs or does it come out of their normal pay ? Yes there is extra money, called subsistence. You get a certain amount a week (price varies whether it's an equity contract or not) to go towards digs and just general living. There's a lot of talk at the moment because many feel like the amount given to actors/crew/band etc is not enough compared to what is being charged for digs.
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Post by firefingers on Sept 18, 2018 0:41:16 GMT
Do touring actors get extra money to pay for hotels/digs or does it come out of their normal pay ? Varies due to a few things as to what it is called and how much, but yes. Not sure what the current rate is, roughly £200 a week sounds about right (think it was £219 of my money I received for a show back in July). Not enough for a hotel but spare rooms can usually be found for that or even a lot less. Lady I stay with on the South Coast only charges £70 for the week. For any international tour dates this doesn't apply and the producers pay for hotel accommodation. Some employers do provide accomodation but it is a rareity, I think the Avenue Q tour had a tour bus at one point. Very rock and roll.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 9:33:46 GMT
Why are the photos which appear next to the bios always completely unrecognisable from the actor on stage in front of your very eyes? My Mum and I have an ongoing joke every time we see one of those to turn to the other and 'we don't look like that anymore' (which was a line that Nathan Lane did in the opening of 'The Frogs' whenever he did that revival. Ironically Lane also looks nothing like his recent headshots)
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 18, 2018 10:34:53 GMT
I can see quite a lot of mileage in a thread about headshots and how they might differ from the current reality. It’s probably best left though, we don’t want anyone’s agent writing in to complain do we 🙂
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Post by dani on Sept 18, 2018 11:52:39 GMT
What is dramaturgy? Why do theatres sell food that it is noisy to eat? What does a big name actor get, weekly, for doing a West End show? Why do reviews in Variety have these weird terms that nobody else seems to use, like tuner, helmer and auds?
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Post by 49thand8th on Sept 18, 2018 14:00:55 GMT
Do touring actors get extra money to pay for hotels/digs or does it come out of their normal pay ? In the U.S., touring actors get a housing stipend on top of their normal pay. The company manager provides ahead of time a list of approved hotels (I believe in this case, the show pays for it), or an actor can choose to stay with friends/family in the area or book an AirBnB themselves with the stipend.
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Post by Jon on Sept 18, 2018 14:45:58 GMT
What is dramaturgy? Why do theatres sell food that it is noisy to eat? What does a big name actor get, weekly, for doing a West End show? Why do reviews in Variety have these weird terms that nobody else seems to use, like tuner, helmer and auds? Variety has always had weird terminology as explained by the Animaniacs:
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Post by cheesy116 on Sept 24, 2018 21:41:36 GMT
I asked this a month or two ago in the Fun Home thread but I don't think I got a definitive answer.
With the child labour laws in the UK, most of the shows have at least 3 children playing every role and sometimes 4 if its a lead role such as Matilda or Billy Elliot (or even 5/6 if its very young children, Tam in Miss Saigon). How did Fun Home get away with only having 2 children for each role ? Especially Young Alison which is a fairly full on role. Was it due to the showing being on out with the school term thus letting them work more hours ? Or something else ?
Thanks in advance.
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