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Post by londonpostie on Apr 11, 2023 13:33:28 GMT
I quite like the idea; Coward can bear the weight and it might be interesting. What worries me is Michael Longhurst's half-baked agenda and needy pseudo-politics. Have I mentioned that before? Much ..
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 11, 2023 14:16:13 GMT
I can't say I thought this was particularly political, or that Longhurst as a director is particularly political either?
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 15:19:23 GMT
I'm a bit confused about Private Lives being a comedy, I mean it has funny dialogue and scenes but it's not Noises Off! In "Noises Off," there's an alcoholic actor who dodders around the stage forgetting everything. If you were to direct "Noises Off" like this play is directed, you would bring on the violins dirging in minor keys in the wings, turn down the lights for added sombreness, and instruct the actor playing the actor to break down in real tears, maybe even scream out in extistential anguish.
Farce or not, the audience wouldn't find that very funny.
The director could justify this by saying that alcoholism and/or alzheimers just aren't funny any more, and it's an interesting way of interrogating the script, highlighting how seriously we should be taking such serious topics, for instance.
The end path of this type of reinvention is we all laugh less, so generally, if the writer intended something to be funny, as a rule I'd like to find a way for it to still be funny lol.
Nonetheless, I see value in this show, as an exception to the rule, as it really shook me up when it turned so nasty.
I just hope that the view, that "you can never laugh at domestic violence," for instance, doesn't rule out traditional funnier interpretations of this potentially hilarious play in future.
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Post by Jan on Apr 11, 2023 17:57:53 GMT
I can't say I thought this was particularly political, or that Longhurst as a director is particularly political either? Longhurst ? Really ? He's appointed an official "climate dramaturg" to the Donmar staff. From his programming we can easily infer what Longhurst is interested in: Climate change, identity politics, America, and film. Pretty standard for subsidised sector ADs.
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 11, 2023 21:45:31 GMT
Didnt know about that appointment but also am not bothered by it?
And I'd say that's a pretty varied range of topics for an artistic director personally?
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Post by foxa on Apr 12, 2023 7:00:07 GMT
I hadn't thought of Longhurst as particularly political. Watch on the Rhine (directed by Ellen McDougal under his AD umbrella) and The Band's Visit were two of my favourite post-lockdown theatre outings. I thought his NT production of Amadeus was terrific. I first noticed his work when his first-rate direction of a so-so play, Carmen Disruption, somehow wrestled a good evening of theatre out of material that might otherwise have fallen flat. I hadn't heard about the climate dramaturg, but just read this. It seems reasonable that theatres are looking at new ways of doing things: www.theunderstudy.co.uk/2021/10/zoe-svendsen-to-act-as-climate.htmlBut all that aside - I will be disappointed if Private Lives is a misery-fest.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 13, 2023 12:12:54 GMT
In the production pictures on WOS Stephen Mangan & Sargon Yalda look rather similar at some angles. Is this played on at all in the production? As in, any implication that Amanda has deliberately remarried to a man who rather resembles her first husband?
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Post by lichtie on Apr 13, 2023 15:46:05 GMT
No, they don't look, or act, much alike in practice.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 13, 2023 16:33:12 GMT
Thanks. Must just be some of the photo angles then. Or just my eyes!
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Post by wannabedirector on Apr 14, 2023 22:27:15 GMT
Had never seen nor read Private Lives before today so I didn’t really know what to think going into this, and to caveat this I do like my comedy dark. That being said I had a really enjoyable evening, far more than I’d hoped. It was funny in parts, well acted and has a gorgeous set. Unexpectedly the best thing I’ve seen at the Donmar in a while.
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Post by karloscar on Apr 15, 2023 0:18:59 GMT
"Mangan with his unruly hair initially pasted down looks disturbingly like Prince Andrew". They won't be putting that quote on the posters!🤪
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Post by mrnutz on Apr 16, 2023 14:40:31 GMT
I was in for this on Saturday night and it was the least enjoyable time I've ever had at the Donmar.
Extremely far away from being "my sort of thing", I found the whole show to be unforgivably boring. I clearly wasn't the only one as a bunch of people left at the interval. I wish I'd joined them.
Two hours watching awful characters being awful to each other, in a story that takes a long time to make the same point repeatedly.
Stephen Mangan was atrocious - he was dialling in a one-note performance with numerous line-fluffs. The others were good but couldn't save it.
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Post by lynette on Apr 24, 2023 18:44:15 GMT
O dear.
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Post by londonpostie on Apr 24, 2023 19:32:24 GMT
I had a double Stephen Mangan day when I went - a Portrait Artist of the Year recording in the early afternoon in Battersea, with this in the evening. There had been a morning session which started at 10.
None of my business and I haven't seen him since A Christmas Carol, but I did wonder if he had a weight on his shoulders atm.
Fwiw, they were recording several of these over a two-week period so this doubling-up was not an abnormal day for him.
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Post by Jon on Apr 28, 2023 12:10:17 GMT
I had a double Stephen Mangan day when I went - a Portrait Artist of the Year recording in the early afternoon in Battersea, with this in the evening. There had been a morning session which started at 10. None of my business and I haven't seen him since A Christmas Carol, but I did wonder if he had a weight on his shoulders atm. Fwiw, they were recording several of these over a two-week period so this doubling-up was not an abnormal day for him. Mangan is also promoting his new book as well so he's keeping busy. I'm assuming the filming of POATY is done in a way so it doesn't clash with Private Lives,
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Post by mkb on Apr 28, 2023 22:44:09 GMT
Private Lives is one of my favourite plays. Coward's wit and jokes still sparkle. I've even enjoyed lesser productions. So, having picked up that the Donmar's interpretation was more "serious", I prepared myself for disappointment.
Maybe it's my age, or my very dry -- and sometimes dark -- sense of humour, but I did not find this any less funny than previous versions. In fact, the darkness added deliciously to the piece. Looking around the audience, there were a lot of broad grins, but little belly laughter evident. I tried to suppress mine for fear of making a show of myself.
I am used to the relationship between Elyot and Amanda brimming with lavender affectation. Not so here. Mangan and Stirling play the emotions for real, in a way that is entirely believable. I thought their performances first rate, which is not to decry Carmichael and Yelda who provide strong support but in easier roles.
I didn't read anything into the interval musical shenanigans other than a bit of light-hearted tomfoolery, and it worked fine for me.
Either I could not here all the sound effects mentioned earlier from D26 downstairs, or they have been toned down. I certainly did not notice any augmentation to the sound of the thrown glass smashing. The way the cello and violin were used in sync with subtle lighting changes heightened the drama without being intrusive.
In such a small venue, Hildegard Bechtler has delivered an impressive set design. The blink-and-you-miss-it transformation of the Mediterranean sea into the Paris apartment between the first two acts was inspired.
Great acting, intelligent directing and Coward dialogue: a perfect evening at the theatre for me.
Five stars.
Acts 1 & 2: 19:47-21:00 Act 3: 21:21-21:53
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Post by Latecomer on Apr 30, 2023 14:45:51 GMT
Loved this. Still plenty of laughs, just more of the realistic, slightly dark knowing ones. The whole play, although obviously set in another time, has aged quite well. Basically exploring different ways of living life and different characters and how they react with each other. There are some classic lines and attitudes in there too and I thoroughly enjoyed the slightly updated take on it all. Couldn’t fault the acting throughout…sound effects and music all seemed fine to me (B8 upstairs). Husband (who doesn’t come to theatre much and generally likes lightweight comedy) also really enjoyed it.
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Post by Jon on Apr 30, 2023 15:23:04 GMT
It's interesting how the change in direction to make it has split opinions. I personally thought it worked but I was going in cold.
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Post by NorthernAlien on May 18, 2023 14:00:37 GMT
Well. I was aware of the reviews of this, and was expecting quite a lot of violence. And there *is* violence, but perhaps less than I was expecting from the reviews?
I thought the cast was superb, the set was superb, and Coward just doesn't waste a single line of dialogue.
I will agree with others, that I thought the glass shattering sound effect was a second behind the glass actually shattering.
Also, I once again got lucky - the RMT strikes meant that a number of people had returned their tickets, which had not then re-sold, and so I got upgraded from Standing at the back of the Circle, to row B of the Stalls. I was so close that I can tell you Stephen Mangan was wearing blusher!
Overall, I enjoyed it. 4 out of 5 from me.
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Post by Jan on May 20, 2023 17:08:28 GMT
3* from me. It all seemed a bit flat and some of the genuinely comic lines didn’t land. I was OK with the “dark” reading. It seems Laura Carmichael has permanently left the cast which was a disappointment for my Downtown-loving companion. I like Rachel Stirling - perfect for Much Ado surely, Mangan too actually.
Michael Longhurst though, glad to see him go, only lasted 4 years the majority of which they were closed.
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Post by jr on May 21, 2023 7:25:18 GMT
I really enjoyed this. I knew the play and had seen clips of past productions and was expecting the typical cocktail/snappy dialogue without much emotion or depth. What other board members found off putting, I thought it gave the play its ground. The acting is very good, specially Rachael Stirling. Great set and directing; I am not a big fan of merging two acts in one but here that really works, and the transition between first and second acts is seamless and original.
The violence at the end of the first half is ugly, as it should be. It does not subtract from the comedy and makes the relationship more real. Noel Coward definitely knew the cycle of domestic violence before Lenore walker developed in the late 1970s.
A benefit is having a three act play done in just over 2 hours. I wish other directors would learn!
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Post by vernongersh on May 21, 2023 8:16:03 GMT
3* from me. It all seemed a bit flat and some of the genuinely comic lines didn’t land. I was OK with the “dark” reading. It seems Laura Carmichael has permanently left the cast which was a disappointment for my Downtown-loving companion. I like Rachel Stirling - perfect for Much Ado surely, Mangan too actually. Michael Longhurst though, glad to see him go, only lasted 4 years the majority of which they were closed. Is Laura really out for the rest of the run this week? I have never seen this show before and was looking forward to seeing her in it.
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Post by Rory on May 21, 2023 8:23:34 GMT
This seems odd. Laura Carmichael is still listed on the Donmar's website yet it also includes Alice Orr-Ewing as 'Alternate Sibyl'.
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Post by Jan on May 21, 2023 12:10:17 GMT
This seems odd. Laura Carmichael is still listed on the Donmar's website yet it also includes Alice Orr-Ewing as 'Alternate Sibyl'. They emailed me to say she was out for the rest of the run due to personal issues (or similar wording). The understudy is fine - close your eyes and you wouldn’t know the difference.
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Post by alessia on May 22, 2023 21:22:10 GMT
I thought this was really good. Not seen any versions before and having read comments I was a bit concerned I wouldn’t like it but I loved it. I don’t really get how the violent parts can be played for laughs? I thought both Stephen Mangan and Rachel Stirling were perfect. One of the ushers also said tonight they were in particularly good form! There was no weird sound effects and the glass shattering was fine. Best thing I’ve seen at Donmar for quite a while.
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