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Post by theatrefan62 on May 30, 2023 14:04:57 GMT
Here's hoping this means Ovenden will be hanging out at the Gielgud from September singing some Sondheim instead! Lovely to see Emma Williams as the Baroness though, really looking forward to my trip down for this (double show day with Rock Follies) Torn on Emma Williams. Yes it's great to see her, but she really should be Maria (she'll also make an amazing Mother Abess in 30 years). She was robbed of her chance at the Palladium and I'm still annoyed all these years later π€£
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Post by Being Alive on May 30, 2023 14:47:03 GMT
It would be great if she ended up being Gina's cover wouldn't it!
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 30, 2023 15:06:09 GMT
It would be great if she ended up being Gina's cover wouldn't it! She is not. Rebekah Lowings (Who was brilliant as cover Eliza in My Fair Lady last year) has announced she is first cover Maria.
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Post by Being Alive on May 30, 2023 15:25:53 GMT
Well, that's boring.
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 30, 2023 16:07:03 GMT
I cant say I get this casting decision. Seems to totally take away the realism of the story.
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Post by theatremiss on May 30, 2023 16:11:22 GMT
Is it wrong I have no idea who Edward Harrison is?
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Post by theatrefan62 on May 30, 2023 16:19:24 GMT
I cant say I get this casting decision. Seems to totally take away the realism of the story. It's been years since I saw the stage version, is Max a nazi in it then? In the movie he isn't. I generally prefer historically accurate casting where race would play a factor, but SOM is pretty light hearted fare and not something I'd be overly concerned on historical accuracy. Especially as it takes big liberties with the original story anyway. Surely in a truly inclusive and equal society there shouldn't be an issue with a different races playing certain roles? To call it 'a choice' seems a bit regessive. Either history matters or it doesn't in these things.
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Post by Being Alive on May 30, 2023 16:25:00 GMT
Interesting you feel so strongly about this that you felt the need to post the same thought twice in four hours...
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Post by Being Alive on May 30, 2023 16:25:16 GMT
Is it wrong I have no idea who Edward Harrison is? Also no idea so it's not just you.
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 30, 2023 16:33:03 GMT
I cant say I get this casting decision. Seems to totally take away the realism of the story. It's been years since I saw the stage version, is Max a nazi in it then? In the movie he isn't. I generally prefer historically accurate casting where race would play a factor, but SOM is pretty light hearted fare and not something I'd be overly concerned on historical accuracy. Especially as it takes big liberties with the original story anyway. Surely in a truly inclusive and equal society there shouldn't be an issue with a different races playing certain roles? To call it 'a choice' seems a bit regessive. Either history matters or it doesn't in these things. He is not. A better example would be the Admiral who is a Nazi official and is played by an actor of South Asian heritage.
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Post by Dawnstar on May 30, 2023 18:39:16 GMT
Max may not actually be a member of the Nazi party but he accepts the Anschluss & gets a promotion out of it (I can't recall his job title but he refers to now being first whatever it is whereas previously he was third) so he collaborates with the Nazis. Given how racist the Nazis were, it's impossible that that could happen with anyone who wasn't white. I have to say I personally find the decision to cast a black actor a baffling one, as is the casting of the Von Trapp children from a variety of ethnicities that would require the Captain to have had 3 or more previous wives!
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 31, 2023 10:24:02 GMT
I wonder if this is the first ever professional production to colour blind cast the kids. Rightly or wrongly it will generate a lot of audience comment and debate and much of it won't be positive.
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Post by Being Alive on May 31, 2023 12:20:11 GMT
I really don't think that it will generate a lot of audience comment - this is (quite rightly) standard practice these days.
You might get a few old people at a Saturday matinee who say something to each other (as people did when frozen opened with the younger and older castings) but otherwise I don't think people will remotely care. Maybe I'm naive, but it's such a non-thing to be getting in a tizz about
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 31, 2023 12:47:07 GMT
I really don't think that it will generate a lot of audience comment - this is (quite rightly) standard practice these days. You might get a few old people at a Saturday matinee who say something to each other (as people did when frozen opened with the younger and older castings) but otherwise I don't think people will remotely care. Maybe I'm naive, but it's such a non-thing to be getting in a tizz about Especially on here. Weβve done it to absolute death over the years. Once upon a time it was unusual, now it isnβt. Canβt we all just move on?
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 31, 2023 12:47:07 GMT
I really don't think that it will generate a lot of audience comment - this is (quite rightly) standard practice these days. You might get a few old people at a Saturday matinee who say something to each other (as people did when frozen opened with the younger and older castings) but otherwise I don't think people will remotely care. Maybe I'm naive, but it's such a non-thing to be getting in a tizz about I'm not sure it's standard practice to cast a family who are based on a real life one dealing with a racist enemy with no regards to race. Trust me a lot of people will notice and comment. The Frozen situation is silly as well as it takes you out of the show and is just bizarre. If this was performing in London it would be in all the newspapers and debated on TV
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Post by Being Alive on May 31, 2023 13:13:07 GMT
Can't say the Frozen 'situation' ever took me out of the show but each to their own π
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 31, 2023 15:28:35 GMT
Can't say the Frozen 'situation' ever took me out of the show but each to their own π I've never seen it on the West end but it just feels a bit bizarre to me through I get why they do it. I don't think some people on here realise that a lot of the more controversial colour blind casting (which undoubtedly this is) probably divides rather than unites.
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Post by mickeyjotheatre on May 31, 2023 15:32:32 GMT
Only if you reduce children to the colour of their skin.
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Post by QueerTheatre on May 31, 2023 15:35:23 GMT
Can't say the Frozen 'situation' ever took me out of the show but each to their own π I've never seen it on the West end but it just feels a bit bizarre to me through I get why they do it. I don't think some people on here realise that a lot of the more controversial colour blind casting (which undoubtedly this is) probably divides rather than unites. i don't think some people on here realise that colour blind casting unites rather divides.
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 31, 2023 15:37:07 GMT
I've never seen it on the West end but it just feels a bit bizarre to me through I get why they do it. I don't think some people on here realise that a lot of the more controversial colour blind casting (which undoubtedly this is) probably divides rather than unites. i don't think some people on here realise that colour blind casting unites rather divides.Β Maybe it does maybe it doesn't.
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 31, 2023 15:38:31 GMT
Only if you reduce children to the colour of their skin. A lot of the audience will.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 31, 2023 15:59:11 GMT
So, now weβve all said that. Letβs move on please. There is zero mileage in taking that discussion any further.
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Post by Being Alive on May 31, 2023 18:53:26 GMT
Gina Beck will be glorious. Emma Williams will be great. This has transfer to London written all over it.
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Post by solangelafitte on May 31, 2023 19:07:03 GMT
I had initially wondered if it was too soon after the Palladium production for it to transfer to London... Only to realise it's been over 14 years. Good lord I feel ancient.
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Post by Being Alive on May 31, 2023 19:09:03 GMT
I had initially wondered if it was too soon after the Palladium production for it to transfer to London... Only to realise it's been over 14 years. Good lord I feel ancient. Mad isn't it that it's been that long!!
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Post by theatrelover97 on May 31, 2023 19:22:36 GMT
It will be 16 years next month since I saw the Palladium production with Aoife Mulholland as Maria. I can remember that day like it was yesterday.
If it goes to London as a 3 month or longer run will they be tempted to recast some roles and add a well known name or two to help boost sales. The musical is beloved but that doesn't guarantee tickets sales in this day.
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Post by Being Alive on May 31, 2023 19:25:21 GMT
Wouldn't think so - Crazy for You has come in with largely it's original cast intact - or those it has replaced are with theatre people rather than 'names' so I would argue Sound of Music alone will be fine provided this reviews well.
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Post by theatrelover97 on Jul 10, 2023 11:53:28 GMT
Was a fair bit of press controversy last week about the trigger warnings applied to the show. Feels like an pressure group sent a press release to all the press at the same time. According to twitter it was even discussed on GB news.
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Post by Jon on Jul 10, 2023 11:54:37 GMT
Was a fair bit of press controversy last week about the trigger warnings applied to the show. Feels like an pressure group sent a press release to all the press at the same time. Do you always post stuff that is about so called controversy? Nobody cares.
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Post by theatrelover97 on Jul 10, 2023 12:08:21 GMT
Was a fair bit of press controversy last week about the trigger warnings applied to the show. Feels like an pressure group sent a press release to all the press at the same time. Do you always post stuff that is about so called controversy? Nobody cares.Β Sorry if commenting on orchestrated press attacks on the show is considered off limis on here.
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