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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 15:14:54 GMT
New musical about Sylvia Pankhurst at the Old Vic from the 1st-22nd of September directed by Kate Prince. www.oldvictheatre.com/whats-on/2018/sylvia-2Noticed a thread hasn't been made for it but saw on the Old Vic twitter today they had a sneak peak of one the songs from the show and it sounds very promising and interesting, am very much looking forward to seeing it. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 4, 2018 15:23:11 GMT
Strikes me as very derivative of a certain hit show running near Victoria at the moment.
The difference being that LMM used the melting pot of modern American musical genres to tell a piece of American political history - and this project (on the basis of just one short clip admittedly) is just taking the first part of that to tell the story of a British woman who ended her life in Ethiopia. So there is a significant disconnect between the two - whereas there was a unity to LMM's approach.
It may well work - but from that short clip, it just feels an attempt to 'do a Hamilton' rather than being something unique.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 15:33:17 GMT
Strikes me as very derivative of a certain hit show running near Victoria at the moment. The difference being that LMM used the melting pot of modern American musical genres to tell a piece of American political history - and this project (on the basis of just one short clip admittedly) is just taking the first part of that to tell the story of a British woman who ended her life in Ethiopia. So there is a significant disconnect between the two - whereas there was a unity to LMM's approach. It may well work - but from that short clip, it just feels an attempt to 'do a Hamilton' rather than being something unique. Strap in honey cos we're in for a whole bunch of British-born Hamilton-wannabes over the next few years. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 4, 2018 15:46:57 GMT
Strikes me as very derivative of a certain hit show running near Victoria at the moment. The difference being that LMM used the melting pot of modern American musical genres to tell a piece of American political history - and this project (on the basis of just one short clip admittedly) is just taking the first part of that to tell the story of a British woman who ended her life in Ethiopia. So there is a significant disconnect between the two - whereas there was a unity to LMM's approach. It may well work - but from that short clip, it just feels an attempt to 'do a Hamilton' rather than being something unique. Strap in honey cos we're in for a whole bunch of British-born Hamilton-wannabes over the next few years. You may well be right - doesn't mean we should welcome it. You can't really break the ground twice in the same place. It is already broken. |
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Mar 4, 2018 18:06:23 GMT
Strikes me as very derivative of a certain hit show running near Victoria at the moment. The difference being that LMM used the melting pot of modern American musical genres to tell a piece of American political history - and this project (on the basis of just one short clip admittedly) is just taking the first part of that to tell the story of a British woman who ended her life in Ethiopia. So there is a significant disconnect between the two - whereas there was a unity to LMM's approach. It may well work - but from that short clip, it just feels an attempt to 'do a Hamilton' rather than being something unique. Zoonation have been doing this sort of thing for about fifteen years, maybe some will only notice them now but they are as likely to have influenced Lin Manuel Miranda than vice versa. Into the Hoods, their biggest success so far, started off in 2008, the same year that In the Heights hit Broadway. |
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Post by raiseitup on May 24, 2018 13:12:52 GMT
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Post by Mark on May 24, 2018 13:28:14 GMT
That is quite the cast!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 13:30:37 GMT
Carly Bawden! I'm IN!
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Post by sf on May 25, 2018 15:41:55 GMT
Yep, me too. That cast list was enough to sell me a (cheap) ticket.
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Post by bellboard27 on May 25, 2018 20:37:51 GMT
Strikes me as very derivative of a certain hit show running near Victoria at the moment. The difference being that LMM used the melting pot of modern American musical genres to tell a piece of American political history - and this project (on the basis of just one short clip admittedly) is just taking the first part of that to tell the story of a British woman who ended her life in Ethiopia. So there is a significant disconnect between the two - whereas there was a unity to LMM's approach. It may well work - but from that short clip, it just feels an attempt to 'do a Hamilton' rather than being something unique. Strap in honey cos we're in for a whole bunch of British-born Hamilton-wannabes over the next few years. Mmmm.... I just noticed this on the website of Exeter's Northcott Theatre: "A forthcoming adaptation of Kenneth Grahame’s Wind in the Willows takes the riverbank to the ‘hood in 2019 with the radical In the Willows – The Hip-Hop Musical, a co-production with the Northcott." |
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Post by Snciole on May 25, 2018 21:17:19 GMT
Zoonation have been doing this sort of thing for about fifteen years, maybe some will only notice them now but they are as likely to have influenced Lin Manuel Miranda than vice versa. Into the Hoods, their biggest success so far, started off in 2008, the same year that In the Heights hit Broadway. Controversially Some Like It Hip Hop had more of an impact on me than Hamilton did. There was some stunning choreography in that show. |
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Post by david on May 25, 2018 22:10:46 GMT
After looking at the cast announcement for this, it’s persuaded me to purchase a £15 ticket.
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Post by stagey on Sept 1, 2018 13:04:33 GMT
This opens Monday. Really torn whether to see it or not, do love Beverley Knight. Do people think it’s worth it?
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Post by Snciole on Sept 1, 2018 15:13:07 GMT
I am going to the first preview on Monday so you will haven't ramblings to look forward to.
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Post by Snciole on Sept 3, 2018 11:13:16 GMT
First preview cancelled. Ticket holders have the option of a rescheduling or watching the dress rehearsal and get a refund. I only paid £10 but I'd rather see the whole show so no show for me tonight
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Post by Seriously on Sept 3, 2018 12:14:03 GMT
Book by Katie Prince
Lyrics by Katie Prince
Additional Music by Katie Prince
Directed and Choreographed by Katie Prince
Produced by the Katie Prince Company.
I can't wait for the reviews!
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Post by raiseitup on Sept 3, 2018 12:42:42 GMT
I'm going to give the dress rehearsal a go tonight, don't think I'll have another opportunity to see this
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Post by raiseitup on Sept 3, 2018 21:27:27 GMT
Well, we got through the first act and about 2 minutes into the second before the actress playing Sylvia collapsed on stage, forcing the rest of the show to be cancelled.
Not looking likely for tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 21:30:24 GMT
Well, we got through the first act and about 2 minutes into the second before the actress playing Sylvia collapsed on stage, forcing the rest of the show to be cancelled. Not looking likely for tomorrow. Oh no, poor Genesis. Hope she is OK.  |
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Post by raiseitup on Sept 3, 2018 21:52:43 GMT
Well, we got through the first act and about 2 minutes into the second before the actress playing Sylvia collapsed on stage, forcing the rest of the show to be cancelled. Not looking likely for tomorrow. Oh no, poor Genesis. Hope she is OK. Me too! She did an incredible job in the first act, you wouldn’t have noticed a thing. Katie Prince said she told her not to go on today, but she insisted on performing |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 22:10:11 GMT
Well, we got through the first act and about 2 minutes into the second before the actress playing Sylvia collapsed on stage, forcing the rest of the show to be cancelled. Not looking likely for tomorrow. Collapsed from what? Is it like Home I’m darling Where the actor managed to come back the folllowing day 🤣🤣 |
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Post by jamb0r on Sept 3, 2018 22:28:45 GMT
Parsley - there’s a little word that you might want to look up. I’ve copied and pasted from the dictionary to save you the trouble:
compassion
kəmˈpaʃ(ə)n
noun
sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others.
Honestly your comments make my skin crawl (still haven’t worked out how to block people on TapaTalk - anyone know?)
I hope she’s ok! Have a ticket for tomorrow night, but not expecting it to go ahead with this news.
Any reviews on the portion of the show that did go ahead tonight?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 22:54:04 GMT
I hope Genesis recovers ASAP
She is a BILB alumni after all
I apologise if I made my point badly
But I get the impression
This show has had some problems along the way
With shows cancelled a few weeks ago
And then the first preview also postponed
Perhaps it’s all bad luck
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Post by poster J on Sept 3, 2018 23:01:44 GMT
I hope Genesis recovers ASAP She is a BILB alumni after all I apologise if I made my point badly But I get the impression This show has had some problems along the way With shows cancelled a few weeks ago And then the first preview also postponed Perhaps it’s all bad luck Are you seriously insinuating that the lead actress may have collapsed deliberately? Because if so, that's a new low. Even if you're not (which I sincerely hope is the case), your posts are in bad taste here anyway - there is a time and a place to talk about customer service/demands, economics, show viability and readiness and so on, but when a person has been taken ill onstage so badly that a show has to be cancelled, it is definitely not the time or the place, and that is not difficult to work out. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 23:40:45 GMT
I hope Genesis recovers ASAP She is a BILB alumni after all I apologise if I made my point badly But I get the impression This show has had some problems along the way With shows cancelled a few weeks ago And then the first preview also postponed Perhaps it’s all bad luck Are you seriously insinuating that the lead actress may have collapsed deliberately? Because if so, that's a new low. Even if you're not (which I sincerely hope is the case), your posts are in bad taste here anyway - there is a time and a place to talk about customer service/demands, economics, show viability and readiness and so on, but when a person has been taken ill onstage so badly that a show has to be cancelled, it is definitely not the time or the place, and that is not difficult to work out. I am not insinuating anything 1- about 4 weeks ago I was called by old Vic indicating several performances of Sylvia were cancelled including the one i had booked for The run is already less than 3 weeks long They didn’t give any reason for the cancellations 2- the first preview was cancelled and made into a dress rehearsal which implies the show was either not ready or behind schedule Interesting if this is related to 1) 3- the less actress then sadly collapsed Mid show Meaning that same dress rehearsal was cancelled A poster who went this evening stated “Katie prince told her not to go on” 1) 2) and 3) May all be unrelated coincidence I don’t know Or perhaps the lead has been unwell Or perhaps the show is demanding I didn’t mean to detract from her acute situation So again I APOLOGISE But to me there seemed to be grumblings Of issues weeks ago with this show Which seem to have gotten worsen |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 8:11:51 GMT
Guys, use the report function. The mods aren't omnipresent, they have lives outside this place. Even if they're very interested in a particular production it still might take them a while to get to a thread, but less time if people have gone "huh, that's an awful post. better report it". If someone posts something that you consider objectionable - an attack or a link to a bootleg or scurrilous rumours - then *instead* of engaging, we should use the report function. The person who rises to the bait and attacks right back when they see a post they perceive as objectionable is always going to look like the idiot in the long run, and engaging with the post in the meantime is just going to give the poster fuel to keep going.
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Post by jamb0r on Sept 4, 2018 9:12:11 GMT
Just received an email to say tonight's performance has been cancelled due to "one of the company being taken ill".
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Post by raiseitup on Sept 4, 2018 9:18:54 GMT
She was absolutely fantastic in Act 1, hope she recovers ASAP.
Parsley's right about one thing though, the show isn't ready and I don't think that's going to be resolved in the next couple of performances. Lighting and sound need a lot of work. Katie Prince said we were watching the very first full dress rehearsal of the show, and to the cast and crew's credit there wasn't a single show stop in the first act, it just needed some tightening during transitions, etc. She also said that they hadn't been able to do a proper sound check yet, and the second half of act 2 was done on a single lighting cue.
As for the first act, I really enjoyed what I saw, on the other hand my partner couldn't bare to sit through any more of it and escaped at the interval... The first act is clocking in at 1hr 20 and it's just too long, some of the protest scenes feel repetitive and there were several false endings where I thought the interval was coming.
It's very Hamilton-lite. Some parts of the staging and music sound they were lifted directly from it. The music takes from quite a few different genres and blends them together with ranging success. I enjoyed the music while watching it but couldn't tell you a single melody now. Also, I hate to compare to Hamilton again, but its characters are so clearly defined, so even when actors are doubling up it's easy to follow. This was not the case for Sylvia, there were A LOT of characters and most are all wearing the same thing, coupled with mic issues, I was lost several times.
What was wonderful was to hear so many gorgeous voices on one stage, there wasn't a weak link among them and Bev got a few limited opportunities to give us a belt or two, I hope she has a big number in Act 2.
Oh, and Winston Churchill's mother is a total scene stealer.
All in all, I think there's definitely some potential here and I hope I get to see the finished product.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 9:37:37 GMT
Parsley's right about one thing though, the show isn't ready and I don't think that's going to be resolved in the next couple of performances. Lighting and sound need a lot of work. Katie Prince said we were watching the very first full dress rehearsal of the show, and to the cast and crew's credit there wasn't a single show stop in the first act, it just needed some tightening during transitions, etc. She also said that they hadn't been able to do a proper sound check yet, and the second half of act 2 was done on a single lighting cue. As for the first act, I really enjoyed what I saw, on the other hand my partner couldn't bare to sit through any more of it and escaped at the interval... The first act is clocking in at 1hr 20 and it's just too long, some of the protest scenes feel repetitive and there were several false endings where I thought the interval was coming. It's very Hamilton-lite. Some parts of the staging and music sound they were lifted directly from it. The music takes from quite a few different genres and blends them together with ranging success. I enjoyed the music while watching it but couldn't tell you a single melody now. Also, I hate to compare to Hamilton again, but its characters are so clearly defined, so even when actors are doubling up it's easy to follow. This was not the case for Sylvia, there were A LOT of characters and most are all wearing the same thing, coupled with mic issues, I was lost several times. What was wonderful was to hear so many gorgeous voices on one stage, there wasn't a weak link among them and Bev got a few limited opportunities to give us a belt or two, I hope she has a big number in Act 2. Oh, and Winston Churchill's mother is a total scene stealer. All in all, I think there's definitely some potential here and I hope I get to see the finished product. First full dress rehearsal No proper sound check One lighting cue for the second half of act 2 A cancelled preview And then a cancelled dress rehearsal Of a show that’s running for less than 3 weeks And of which they were performing segments Back in early April Sounds amazingly professional Thanks for confirming my suspicions That this show was far from ready and this was an ongoing problem going back some weeks or possibly longer |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 9:53:33 GMT
www.thestage.co.uk/news/2018/hip-hop-musical-sylvia-delays-opening-night-old-vic/Press night moved from 11th to 17th sept This was yesterday before the cancelled show The explanations from the OV Sound like the usual creative BS cover all The show is only running until 22nd Seems a bit weird to have only 6 shows post PN Perhaps they are wanting to transfer it Hence the short run It’s amazing and astounding They are so behind When they were performing parts of the show As far back as April 4th
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