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Post by cavocado on Dec 15, 2022 11:55:17 GMT
People on here do realise that the Donmar needs to make money, offering cheap seats to everyone wouldn't exactly be financially viable. Of course, Jon ; the point people are making here is not only that long-standing regulars have been priced out - and losing a chunk of the chore audience is bad in itself, both in terms of loyalty and business - but also that at present, the now more expensive tickets are hanging around unsold for weeks. So perhaps something about the price model needs adjusting? Exactly this. It's not about expecting them to run at a loss, but questioning whether they've got the right pricing if the higher prices lead to more empty/unsold/discounted/papered seats. Maybe they are still taking more money overall and this is the right decision, but it's got to be risky pricing out some regulars, particularly people who have been to see the badly-selling shows as well as the hits. They also lose the word of mouth publicity from those people, and will fall off some people's radar, which could mean other lost ticket sales.
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Post by drmaplewood on Dec 15, 2022 12:04:49 GMT
There is no performance today, it was due to be press night but was cancelled. Tickets are released for a week in advance. Cheerfully withdrawn!
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Post by londonpostie on Dec 15, 2022 19:52:37 GMT
*cough* *cough*
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Post by NeilVHughes on Dec 15, 2022 20:01:29 GMT
It will be interesting to see whether your cough improves on days without a train strike.
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Post by londonpostie on Dec 15, 2022 20:07:18 GMT
Yay Mick and the RMT! The mystery of absent punters this Saturday night is resolved.
In general though, it's selling better than I would have expected, esp. at these prices.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 15, 2022 23:58:13 GMT
Expect more cancellations for this…
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Post by theoracle on Dec 16, 2022 0:17:12 GMT
Expect more cancellations for this… I’m supposed to be going tomorrow. Do you know if it is sickness or something else?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 16, 2022 8:03:28 GMT
Expect more cancellations for this… I’m supposed to be going tomorrow. Do you know if it is sickness or something else? They may need to be rapidly rehearsing a new cast member in to it
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Post by Jan on Dec 16, 2022 14:33:18 GMT
People on here do realise that the Donmar needs to make money, offering cheap seats to everyone wouldn't exactly be financially viable. We had a similar discussion about @sohoplace - at least they have realised that it’s better to have seats filled at lower prices than empty at absurdly high prices. My ticket for AYLI there was £35 when they’d originally tried to sell it for £80 and I’d have stayed away. The Donmar need to learn that lesson given their productions are far from must-sees these days. Anyway, my main point is how come the Donmar are giving cheap seats to 30-year-olds ? How is that fair ? Why not 40 ? They should make some attempt to means test it (students, unwaged etc).
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Post by alessia on Dec 16, 2022 14:44:41 GMT
People on here do realise that the Donmar needs to make money, offering cheap seats to everyone wouldn't exactly be financially viable. We had a similar discussion about @sohoplace - at least they have realised that it’s better to have seats filled at lower prices than empty at absurdly high prices. My ticket for AYLI there was £35 when they’d originally tried to sell it for £80 and I’d have stayed away. The Donmar need to learn that lesson given their productions are far from must-sees these days. Anyway, my main point is how come the Donmar are giving cheap seats to 30-year-olds ? How is that fair ? Why not 40 ? They should make some attempt to means test it (students, unwaged etc). Are there any offers for AYLI that I missed? I look now and again but seats are really expensive. Completely agree on Donmar, would be much fairer to offer cheaper tickets to students and unwaged rather than doing it by age...
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Post by showgirl on Dec 16, 2022 14:56:29 GMT
Or really stick their necks about the parapet & offer some seats as "Pay What You Think It's Worth"?
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Post by cavocado on Dec 16, 2022 15:21:18 GMT
Or really stick their necks about the parapet & offer some seats as "Pay What You Think It's Worth"? Or lucky dip tickets like the Young Vic, Bush and others.
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Post by Jon on Dec 16, 2022 15:36:21 GMT
Or really stick their necks about the parapet & offer some seats as "Pay What You Think It's Worth"? That could be easily be abused.
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Post by Jan on Dec 16, 2022 16:52:51 GMT
We had a similar discussion about @sohoplace - at least they have realised that it’s better to have seats filled at lower prices than empty at absurdly high prices. My ticket for AYLI there was £35 when they’d originally tried to sell it for £80 and I’d have stayed away. The Donmar need to learn that lesson given their productions are far from must-sees these days. Anyway, my main point is how come the Donmar are giving cheap seats to 30-year-olds ? How is that fair ? Why not 40 ? They should make some attempt to means test it (students, unwaged etc). Are there any offers for AYLI that I missed? I look now and again but seats are really expensive. Completely agree on Donmar, would be much fairer to offer cheaper tickets to students and unwaged rather than doing it by age... On AYLI, look on TodayTix for December dates, they have moved the £20 and £35 seats to much better locations. They haven’t so far for January but I imagine they’ll have to.
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Post by theoracle on Dec 16, 2022 17:14:17 GMT
Production photos released. Heading to this tonight assuming it's not been cancelled. With the Under 30s question I think the average wage of someone under 30 is generally considerably lower than someone aged over 30. That being said I'm under 30 and shelled out £60 for this... Row C in the side blocks of the circle for a 2.5hr play is just not worth it in my opinion. Sat there for Teenage Dick and was relieved to be able to get out after the relatively short run time.
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Post by alessia on Dec 16, 2022 17:40:17 GMT
I think I only paid about £20 so my view will be rubbish, but still looking forward to this (hopefully if not cancelled) tomorrow!
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Post by alessia on Dec 16, 2022 17:40:39 GMT
Are there any offers for AYLI that I missed? I look now and again but seats are really expensive. Completely agree on Donmar, would be much fairer to offer cheaper tickets to students and unwaged rather than doing it by age... On AYLI, look on TodayTix for December dates, they have moved the £20 and £35 seats to much better locations. They haven’t so far for January but I imagine they’ll have to. Thank you!
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Post by theatrefan77 on Dec 16, 2022 19:26:35 GMT
Waiting for this to start. Patricia Hodge out. Jane Lambert plays Fanny today
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Post by foxa on Dec 16, 2022 22:57:00 GMT
Waiting for this to start. Patricia Hodge out. Jane Lambert plays Fanny today Oh! Looking forward to hearing what you think (I booked for this and convinced a friend to do so as well, so feeling a little nervous as we both paid more than we usually would.)
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Post by dlevi on Dec 16, 2022 22:57:10 GMT
Saw this tonight and they're clearly just finding their feet with the sudden change of cast. No formal announcement of Patricia Hodge being out except for a monitor at the top of the stairs which was on the second screen after the initial cast listing. If the opportunity arises I'll go back in January once they're more comfortable .
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Post by theatrefan77 on Dec 17, 2022 1:51:33 GMT
Waiting for this to start. Patricia Hodge out. Jane Lambert plays Fanny today Oh! Looking forward to hearing what you think (I booked for this and convinced a friend to do so as well, so feeling a little nervous as we both paid more than we usually would.) I thought it was good and it will probably get better after a few more performances. Jane Lambert was underrehearsed and it showed. She was nervous to start with but got better after a shaky beginning. Overall she did a decent job considering the circumstances. It's a great play and generally well acted. Topics like fascism and immigration are current and i can see why the play has been revived. I won't mind seeing it again.
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Post by vernongersh on Dec 17, 2022 2:03:10 GMT
Donmar posted on their site that Ms. Hodge will be out until December 23rd. I have tickets for after Christmas and do hope she is in the show. I'd imagine this means press night won't happen until after Christmas
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Post by foxa on Dec 17, 2022 12:01:07 GMT
Thank you, dlevi and theatrefan77 . Really interested to see this and as am not booked until 7th Jan, I hope it has settled by then (though you never can tell.)
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Post by theoracle on Dec 17, 2022 16:56:27 GMT
Well I enjoyed this but it ends quite abruptly… I was expecting Jane Lambert to be with a script for this but was pleased to see she was able to go off script for this. I am curious to see Patricia Hodge play Fanny though as I think the comedy will land better but Jane still does a fine job. The children I thought were very good too and I think Lillian Hellman’s text holds up incredibly well. Quickly going back to the under 30s debate, I don’t think I saw many at the Donmar last night which is a pity as it would be great to see a more diverse audience for this. Nevertheless, this show makes use of the Donmar space very well and am glad I got to see this.
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Post by londonpostie on Dec 17, 2022 18:22:51 GMT
With her, Lillian Hellman brings fond memories of way back in the day seeing Elizabeth Taylor in Little Foxes. Where did the time go …
So the issue with this quality of work is whether a new production will do the writer justice. And, at least for me, there is a concern at the Donmar of wet wokery or some other limp political meddling: relieved to say, none of my meters twitched, not even the acute one that sweeps for unearned sentimentality.
Huge kudos to both understudies, and to the wonderfully professional children. The adults weren’t shabby, either. Unfussy staging also very helpful*. Thoroughly absorbing afternoon. Already booked a return in January.
Donmar where have you been!?
4 1/2
* the audience sweepstake (for the minute when the ceiling would be activated) had to be refunded
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