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Post by kathryn on Oct 15, 2018 9:17:42 GMT
It's a related issue in the grand scheme of women's place in Hollywood and other industries, certainly - but it's far too soon to be expecting to see change in that area. Especially as that's not a specific goal at the moment.
It's a long, long, road ahead - you can't expect every problem facing women in the film industry to be addressed in a year.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 15, 2018 9:47:24 GMT
you can't expect every problem facing women in the film industry to be addressed in a year. Well, it's been a long time building and when a dam bursts... and body image has been part of the metoo hashtag for a while now.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 15, 2018 10:01:06 GMT
It takes a lot longer than a year to get most films made! Even if studios, casting directors and directors decided tomorrow that they want to have a more diverse range of body-types among actresses in their films, you'd likely not see the results on red carpets until next year's round of festivals.
We're at least a few years off getting gender parity in writers and directors - assuming studios follow through on their stated aspirations - because of the timescales involved in putting film projects together. I'd not expect to start to see a shift in the area of body types until after that's been achieved, in all honestly.
There's a critical path, just like in any other change project - you need to get the right people in place first. You go for the easy wins to start with - the things everyone agrees need to change. You show everyone that change brings benefits as well as challenges, because you need to get buy-in from the key stakeholders for the larger project to work.
God, I sound like a management consultant now. But it's true - this kind of transformation doesn't happen quickly. You can't change things all at once overnight. It's a process.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 15, 2018 13:05:41 GMT
decided tomorrow that they want to have a more diverse range of body-types I think it has already been decided and it's being loudly demanded - we're certainly seeing it on stage and in British TV and to some extent in US. I was saying it because I sort of expected several prominent actresses to now look a bit more relaxed but instead you can still chart the upward-to-US career progress of an actress by a succession of pics of her losing her curves and getting bonier.
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Post by n1david on Oct 15, 2018 13:53:08 GMT
Was the foyer at Embankment Garden Cinema as horrible last year? Been there twice this year, and in both cases impossible to move in the foyer as it's been so packed (let alone get a drink or something to eat). Might have been a good idea to build a foyer large enough to take a full audience - would speed people getting into the auditorium too.
Anyway, to films, and loved Papa Chulo, thought Sauvage was very good and not as predictable as some films of its type. The Front Runner today competent but unexciting.
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Post by foxa on Oct 15, 2018 18:59:27 GMT
Liked 'Wildlife' entered into the first film category, directed by Paul Dano and starring Carey Mulligan and Jake Gyllenhaal, based on a Richard Ford novel. Sensitive performances, beautiful use of the setting.
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Post by poster J on Oct 15, 2018 19:22:26 GMT
I thought Wild Rose was wonderful, and Jessie Buckley is a star. Really raw, honest and powerful performance and so much said in her eyes alone. Julie Walters and Sophie Okonedo are great as well.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 15, 2018 20:53:40 GMT
Great to see the restored Tunes of Glory tonight. We may have lowed the average age of the audience a bit. I hadn’t heard of it before seeing it in the festival brochure and being intrigued by the prospect of Alec Guinness and John Mills playing against type. Can certainly see why it hasn’t become a staple of mid-week afternoon TV - it’s very much about the impact of World War II on the men who fought it.
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Post by ellie1981 on Oct 15, 2018 21:14:10 GMT
I thought Wild Rose was wonderful, and Jessie Buckley is a star. Really raw, honest and powerful performance and so much said in her eyes alone. Julie Walters and Sophie Okonedo are great as well. Amazing. My favourite of the lot so far. It was just such a feel good film and I can’t wait to see it again. Jessie Buckley is amazing and I was so impressed with the young production team. The Director and Producer both looked like they were in their early 30s.
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Post by Xanderl on Oct 16, 2018 12:39:39 GMT
Was the foyer at Embankment Garden Cinema as horrible last year? Been there twice this year, and in both cases impossible to move in the foyer as it's been so packed (let alone get a drink or something to eat). Might have been a good idea to build a foyer large enough to take a full audience - would speed people getting into the auditorium too. Yes, had my first visit there on Saturday - first film of the day (The Ballad of Buster Scruggs). Incredibly uncomfortable packed foyer, not helped by only one person checking tickets at each door. Screen itself is fine (although soundproofing not great) but it's not exactly a "premium" experience! Only seen two films this year - Buster Scruggs and the "Surprise Treasure" which was excellent! Used to see loads up to a few years ago when I got fed up with the price increases - although these now seem to have settled down and normal London cinema prices have caught up (eg £17 for the LFF versus £16 for a normal Picturehouse Central or Curzon Soho ticket). Also find the programme format ("Cult!" "Flinch!" "Emote!" etc rather than the logically themed sections we used to get) annoying and hard to navigate.
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Post by ellie1981 on Oct 16, 2018 12:55:34 GMT
Just seen Life Itself. Avoid it is my recommendation.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 16, 2018 12:58:45 GMT
Was the foyer at Embankment Garden Cinema as horrible last year? Been there twice this year, and in both cases impossible to move in the foyer as it's been so packed (let alone get a drink or something to eat). Might have been a good idea to build a foyer large enough to take a full audience - would speed people getting into the auditorium too. Yes, had my first visit there on Saturday - first film of the day (The Ballad of Buster Scruggs). Incredibly uncomfortable packed foyer, not helped by only one person checking tickets at each door. Screen itself is fine (although soundproofing not great) but it's not exactly a "premium" experience! It's the flies that land on to the projector lens that really annoy me about that venue. It obviously needs a bug-proof screen around the booth.
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Post by stefy69 on Oct 16, 2018 12:58:58 GMT
Great to see the restored Tunes of Glory tonight. We may have lowed the average age of the audience a bit. I hadn’t heard of it before seeing it in the festival brochure and being intrigued by the prospect of Alec Guinness and John Mills playing against type. Can certainly see why it hasn’t become a staple of mid-week afternoon TV - it’s very much about the impact of World War II on the men who fought it. It really is an excellent film, IMHO John Mills finest hour.
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Post by poster J on Oct 16, 2018 14:49:21 GMT
Yes, had my first visit there on Saturday - first film of the day (The Ballad of Buster Scruggs). Incredibly uncomfortable packed foyer, not helped by only one person checking tickets at each door. Screen itself is fine (although soundproofing not great) but it's not exactly a "premium" experience! It's the flies that land on to the projector lens that really annoy me about that venue. It obviously needs a bug-proof screen around the booth. I didn't notice any last night. I did, however, hear several ambulances/police/fire brigade vehicles going along the Embankment, especially during the Q&A. Also the rake between rows really is poor. I'm seeing another couple of films there (The Favourite on Thurs and If Beale Street Could Talk at the weekend) and desperately hoping I'm on an aisle for both!
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Post by Marwood on Oct 16, 2018 17:20:27 GMT
Went there for The Party last year and thought the film was dreadful, so was in no rush to hang about for the Q&A after the screening - there were some particularly crappy people in my row who made no effort whatsoever to move to let me out despite several ‘excuse me’s on my part - thankfully not seeing any of the films on display there this year.
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Post by Marwood on Oct 18, 2018 21:08:43 GMT
So, Dragged Across Concrete: I don’t know what genius at the BFI thought it was a great idea to screen a film running the best part of three hours at a quarter to nine on a week day evening ( and then starting ten minutes after then without so much as a sorry or even an excuse me for its late start), but good God, what an awful, joyless, dimly shot film - not an ounce of excitement to proceedings, and it just seemed a terribly grim, dull and just plain racist film. I bailed after 45 minutes - only the second time I’ve left a cinema screening early but nothing I saw made me think it would be worth me paying for a cab/Uber the other side of midnight just to say I saw this a few months before most other people.
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Post by callum on Oct 18, 2018 22:44:39 GMT
Another think about EGC - any time someone on your row fidgets or moves in their seat, the whole block of seats that are joined together get shook around like one of those rollercoaster simulator rides. *whispers*... I’m starting to miss Odeon Leicester Sq!
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Post by asfound on Oct 19, 2018 6:49:18 GMT
So, Dragged Across Concrete: I don’t know what genius at the BFI thought it was a great idea to screen a film running the best part of three hours at a quarter to nine on a week day evening ( and then starting ten minutes after then without so much as a sorry or even an excuse me for its late start), but good God, what an awful, joyless, dimly shot film - not an ounce of excitement to proceedings, and it just seemed a terribly grim, dull and just plain racist film. I bailed after 45 minutes - only the second time I’ve left a cinema screening early but nothing I saw made me think it would be worth me paying for a cab/Uber the other side of midnight just to say I saw this a few months before most other people. I'm really looking forward to this after Bone Tomahawk and Brawl in Cell Block 99. Joyless and grim sounds right up my street. You'll have to excuse me if I take your review of a quarter of the film with a pinch of salt. I heard people say the same things after leaving Mandy and All the Gods in the Sky early, and those were great.
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Post by Marwood on Oct 19, 2018 8:17:17 GMT
So, Dragged Across Concrete: I don’t know what genius at the BFI thought it was a great idea to screen a film running the best part of three hours at a quarter to nine on a week day evening ( and then starting ten minutes after then without so much as a sorry or even an excuse me for its late start), but good God, what an awful, joyless, dimly shot film - not an ounce of excitement to proceedings, and it just seemed a terribly grim, dull and just plain racist film. I bailed after 45 minutes - only the second time I’ve left a cinema screening early but nothing I saw made me think it would be worth me paying for a cab/Uber the other side of midnight just to say I saw this a few months before most other people. I'm really looking forward to this after Bone Tomahawk and Brawl in Cell Block 99. Joyless and grim sounds right up my street. You'll have to excuse me if I take your review of a quarter of the film with a pinch of salt. I heard people say the same things after leaving Mandy and All the Gods in the Sky early, and those were great. I thought Bone Tomahawk and Brawl were both great which made this all the more disappointing- having one lead character shouting out ‘anchovies!’ for some unknown reason and the other stressing about his daughter getting raped when she is older for no reason other than the potential rapists are black did not make for riveting viewing. It’s one thing for a film to set out to be slow burning, and another for next to nothing of any note to happen in the first forty five minutes of a film. Anyway, going to see Mandy tomorrow - expecting great things (well greater than DAC anyway)
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Post by ellie1981 on Oct 19, 2018 8:23:52 GMT
Etangs Noirs was at 70 minutes, one of the most tedious and pointless films I’ve ever seen. The last half of the film is literally watching a man on a metro train walk about from carriage to carriage. Might as well just put a hidden camera on anyone when taking the tube.
The White Crow was ambitious but pacing was all off until the last 40 minutes. It was lovely to see Ralph Fiennes talk about it in the intro though as he was clearly very passionate and quite emotional about getting it made.
Best films so far for me have been Wild Rose, Beautiful Boy and Colette.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 20:45:18 GMT
Ranked:
1. If Beale Street Could Talk 2. Widows 3. The Favourite 4. Suspiria 5. Roma 6. Beautiful Boy 7. Can You Ever Forgive Me? 8. Vox Lux 9. Green Book
All nine worth at least one watch. And I'll likely watch the top 8 again. Beale Street is another masterpiece from Barry Jenkins and the only 5* of the year for me. What a talent.
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Post by poster J on Oct 20, 2018 21:33:20 GMT
I agree that Beale Street is a masterpiece, just a stunning piece of filmmaking that lives up to the hype and has to be in Oscar contention next year.
In contrast, I quite liked the Favourite but didn't think it quite lived up to the hype - it went too far for me in places to the point where I didn't find parts of it as amusing as a lot of the audience seemed to. Really great performances from the three leads though, Olivia Coleman especially.
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Post by ellie1981 on Oct 21, 2018 16:39:03 GMT
Finished my final day now. Did have tickets to Stan & Ollie tonight but I’m just exhausted so sold them. Full rankings for everything I’ve seen:
1. If Beale Street Could Talk 2. Wild Rose 3. Colette 4. Beautiful Boy 5. The Hate U Give 6. Can You Ever Forgive Me? 7. The Favourite 8. Roma 9. The Old Man and the Gun 10. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs 11. Widows 12. The White Crow 13. Destroyer 14. After The Screaming Stops 15. Nancy 16. The Front Runner 17. Lizzie 18. Life Itself 19. Etangs Noirs
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Post by nialld on Oct 21, 2018 17:25:48 GMT
Agree with others that Wild Rose was phenomenal, Jessie Buckley is such a star! I love the LFF and always wish I could see more but managed to fit in 7 films this year, my rankings:
1. Wild Rose 2. The Favourite 3. The Kindergarten Teacher 4. Destroyer 5. Can You Ever Forgive Me? 6. Wildlife 7. Been So Long
Really hard ranking as I really enjoyed all of them, apart from Been So Long which I thought was pretty awful.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 21, 2018 20:47:05 GMT
Agree that If Beale Street Could Talk is stunning, and also loved Wild Rose. The Fight was very good today, too.
Actually I don’t think I’ve seen a really bad film this year. I have discovered that my patience/concentration runs out at about 9pm on multiple film days and I should probably stop booking anything that starts after 8pm if I’m seeing stuff during the day - particularly galas, which always start late. Getting home at gone midnight several days on the trot is exhausting - especially when I have to go to work during the day. I’m pretty sure that the 3 films I enjoyed the least would have been more enjoyable earlier in the day/on more sleep. I found Wildlife very slow - though I swear Carey Mulligan is going to get an Oscar nod; Duplicate was fine but not as interesting as it thinks it is; and The Man Who Killed Don Quixote underwhelmed me and simply outstayed it’s welcome. But I don’t think any of them were bad.
As always, I can’t be doing with rankings. It was great to see Border, Amra and the Second Marriage, and Rafiki as I just wouldn’t get them at my local cinema. They Shall Not Grow Old was a hell of an experience - I was sat 4 rows behind William and had an excellent view of the Royal Baldspot, Very much enjoyed Sometimes Always Never, The Fight, and A Private War - I am hoping that they get a wider audience. Pretty sure A Private War is going to campaign heavily for awards (they have Annie Lennox doing an original song over the end credits) so it should get wide coverage. There's posters for Mirai all over town so that is obviously getting a wider release - a rather lovely film for kids. And there’s no doubt that Beautiful Boy will be all over awards season - and deservedly so.
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Post by n1david on Oct 22, 2018 9:37:33 GMT
1. Papi Chulo 2. The White Crow 3. Vox Lux 4. El Angel 5. Benjamin 6. The Favourite 7. Sauvage 8. Consequences 9. The Front Runner 99. Been So Long
Not a vintage LFF for me...
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Post by Snciole on Oct 27, 2018 20:23:40 GMT
I only saw Mr Soul! this year which was an odd film, it was unsure if it wanted to be about Ellis Haizlip or the whole production. It had some great archival footage but it felt to me they were playing conspiracy about its demise when it looks like the show hadn't progressed from 1968 to its cancellation in 1973 when the civil rights movement/its audience had.
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