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Post by Michael on Feb 16, 2016 7:21:57 GMT
Not really. Too excited to finally see what all the buzz is about. It was just a spur-of-the-moment thing when I saw that "my" seat (for which I paid a whopping $192) is resold directly on Ticketmaster for $800 - and others for $2000.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 8:20:21 GMT
I'll be honest I was tempted to sell my pair which would pay for a trip to NY (well a fair chunk of it!) But really, I want to see it again and I refuse to contribute to the ridiculous re-sale market on this one. I really wish Ticketmaster had capped it's re-sale tickets, because in principle it's a good idea to legitimately be able to re-sell, but really they're only concerned with the cut they presumably make from re-sale (do they? I don't actually know)
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Post by infofreako on Feb 16, 2016 9:29:57 GMT
They definitely take a cut. 10-15% rings a bell
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 9:59:01 GMT
Ah ha, assumed they did just wasn't sure what the % was. That's a hell of a profit on these resales alone though.
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Post by infofreako on Feb 16, 2016 10:23:10 GMT
It is. Especially as.theyve already had the ticket money once
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Post by horton on Feb 16, 2016 10:40:37 GMT
So they've just brought ticket touting in-house. One of the most disgusting "innovations" yet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 10:49:55 GMT
Sort of downright criminal extortion if you ask me. The ticket-selling industry requires heavier regulation to stop people thinking that tickets being sold at a huge mark-up is okay. While there'll always be a genuine market for re-selling (people who can't attend a sold-out performance, thinking of the returns queue), if they're allowed to sell at such a mark-up, then people are going to buy tickets *just* to re-sell them. And, indeed, people ARE buying tickets just to re-sell them! If tickets were only ever allowed to be sold at face-value (with a strictly enforced minimal processing fee) then the touts would have to find some other way to make a profit, the re-sell market would be much more based around genuine needs to pass a ticket on, and tickets wouldn't sell out quite so obscenely quickly because only people who are genuinely planning to see the show would be buying, and they would only be buying as many as they need.
(Yeah, preaching to the choir, but it makes me so ANGRY that people are being exploited like this.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 11:01:00 GMT
Oh 100% and also it disadvantages those who do just want to re-sell for genuine reasons with fears over tickets becoming invalid as a result of potential crackdowns on profit re-selling. I'm all for an automated re-selling at face value via the ticket vendors (I'm thinking an online version of ringing the theatre to return a ticket) but this approach just legitimises touts.
I also find it quite disturbing that there are companies you can pay to 'line sit' for you to get return tickets (BWW Hamilton thread has a lot on this) again dividing those genuine fans who are willing to sit it out etc, and those who are just willing to pay whatever it takes to see the 'in' show. Sad times.
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Post by RudyGrey on Feb 17, 2016 5:20:03 GMT
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Post by chrismis on Feb 17, 2016 8:25:00 GMT
WOW! Thanks for posting this. It looks amazing. Hope we don't have to wait too long to see it over here! Just hope the price of tickets won't be too ridiculous when it does arrive!
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Post by PalelyLaura on Feb 17, 2016 10:13:58 GMT
It looks fantastic! Got the cast recording last week and can't stop listening to it. I've watched this clip several times already - can't wait for it to come to London!
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Post by primitivewallflower on Feb 17, 2016 18:31:38 GMT
Having listened to the cast recording umpteen-thousand times by now, it's jarring to see it actually staged. I'm going next week and absolutely can't wait.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 17, 2016 19:01:17 GMT
I also find it quite disturbing that there are companies you can pay to 'line sit' for you to get return tickets (BWW Hamilton thread has a lot on this) again dividing those genuine fans who are willing to sit it out etc, and those who are just willing to pay whatever it takes to see the 'in' show. Sad times. You have a good point, but there are genuine fans who have jobs nearby who can't get out in time, who might live close but not super close (Westchester, further-out New Jersey, Long Island, etc...). They may have the same amount of love and desire to see the show as someone who lives 5 minutes away, but have other constraints and are able to afford a line-sitter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 19:12:41 GMT
That is a fair point granted, just the impression I got from hearing about them was that it was yet another way for those who could afford to to get an 'edge' on others. Of course I'm not saying having means doesn't mean someone isn't a "real fan" but it is another 'pricing out' of people from seeing the show.
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Post by Michael on Mar 8, 2016 17:51:59 GMT
All you ever wanted to know about our German chancellor - done the Hamilton-opening-number way: (found on hamiltonworld.com broadwayworld.com)
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Post by Michael on Mar 11, 2016 19:42:41 GMT
Just picked up my ticket for tonight. It's 2.30pm local time and the cancellation line is already 14 people long. The guys in the tents are professional line sitters and camp overnight at most of the days - people are paying them for a chance for a returned ticket. That's crazy.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 11, 2016 21:38:49 GMT
I'm arranging for my trip to the US in December and while I'm seeing Broadway shows I'm re-routing my Hamilton attendance to the Chicago sit-down production which didn't go on sale yet. My dates are picked and my Credit Card is on standby.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 21:55:40 GMT
Am I the only one praying the West End does not become what Broadway has with Hamilton?
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Post by ali973 on Mar 11, 2016 22:02:30 GMT
Why not? It's an exciting global cultural phenomenon and exposes and mainstreams musical theatre to people who have never considered it before. It nourishes the industry, creates new audiences, and encourages more creative and cutting edge work.
If it's crowd control you're worried..just avoid? So long as it's not across the street from where you live why would it bother you?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 22:17:44 GMT
Why not? It's an exciting global cultural phenomenon and exposes and mainstreams musical theatre to people who have never considered it before. It nourishes the industry, creates new audiences, and encourages more creative and cutting edge work. If it's crowd control you're worried..just avoid? So long as it's not across the street from where you live why would it bother you? It's nothing to do with that, and I agree with all the business and culture aspects. If at the New London, it won't really be in anyones way etc...
But what I was meaning is like, on here and everything. On the Broadwayworld Forum, every other thread is Hamilton this, Hamilton that... I just don't want the hype to ruin it for me when I go if it is not, as it appears to some, "the greatest musical ever!". Do you know what I mean?
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Post by ali973 on Mar 11, 2016 22:26:05 GMT
I have to agree that there will be endless talk about it even before it opens. I wish they would have delayed the announcement or would open it this year instead. I'm not sure what's stopping them especially since there will be three simultaneous US productions running by the end of the year. Maybe it has to do with theatre availability in London.
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Post by charliec on Mar 11, 2016 22:26:44 GMT
Just picked up my ticket for tonight. It's 2.30pm local time and the cancellation line is already 14 people long. The guys in the tents are professional line sitters and camp overnight at most of the days - people are paying them for a chance for a returned ticket. That's crazy. When I did the cancellation line in October I started a line at 2:30pm and we were allowed to queue inside!
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Post by Michael on Mar 11, 2016 22:29:26 GMT
I fear that I can only be disappointed, as good as the show may be. At least I managed to not listen to the cast recording, so I'm going completely "unprepared", and tonight will be my first encounter with Hamilton. I'm really excited.
While I was waiting for the sole box office guy to be available, a few people came in, and they were told that the earliest ticket availability is for December.
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Post by Michael on Mar 11, 2016 22:34:35 GMT
When I did the cancellation line in October I started a line at 2:30pm and we were allowed to queue inside! Were you at least successful? A (staff) lady told me that meanwhile the cancellation line builds up over night. As I've said above: The guys in the tents are doing this professionally and selling their place in line to someone who doesn't want to wait for such a long time (I guess they are prebooked by them). These guys are in the queue (almost) every day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 22:38:12 GMT
I am hoping it is at least like The Book of Mormon over here, where for the first 6 months or first year, it was all anyone talked about. But now, whilst one of the biggest hits in London still, it is not thrown in your face as much as it was. It is just happily running.
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Post by Joseph Buquet on Mar 11, 2016 23:04:30 GMT
Why is it so popular? I've got the cast recording, but haven't had time to listen to it yet. I did watch the performance at the Grammy Awards, and felt that I'd already heard about 80% of the musical motifs and arrangements already in In the Heights (right down to the last note of the song). Don't get me wrong - I LOVE In the Heights, but people aren't exactly fighting to get tickets for it here, so I'm interested to know why there's such extreme hype around Hamilton. It's not like the subject-matter seems that exciting...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 23:14:01 GMT
Why is it so popular? I've got the cast recording, but haven't had time to listen to it yet. I did watch the performance at the Grammy Awards, and felt that I'd already heard about 80% of the musical motifs and arrangements already in In the Heights (right down to the last note of the song). Don't get me wrong - I LOVE In the Heights, but people aren't exactly fighting to get tickets for it here, so I'm interested to know why there's such extreme hype around Hamilton. It's not like the subject-matter seems that exciting... I actually agree that I have no idea why it is so popular... I only go to shows that I have an interest in, whether it be story, performer or music. But nothing about this really appeals to me at all. The story sounds uninteresting, granted I haven't heard the whole score.
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Post by Michael on Mar 11, 2016 23:35:58 GMT
Just picked up my ticket for tonight. It's 2.30pm local time and the cancellation line is already 14 people long. The guys in the tents are professional line sitters and camp overnight at most of the days - people are paying them for a chance for a returned ticket. That's crazy. Update: 6.30pm, and there are now more than 40 people in the cancellation line; the tents are now gone. Are there really that many returns? I for one would only queue up if I were the fifth person in line at most. And definitely not longer than for 2h...
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Post by Jon on Mar 11, 2016 23:51:00 GMT
I love Hamilton but you can't really judge it based just on the cast recording, it has to be seen to really appreciate it.
I assume Hamilton already has its theatre in London lined up since the producers were scouting last year, I think it'll be the Victoria Palace when it reopens next year,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 1:37:01 GMT
Why is it so popular? I've got the cast recording, but haven't had time to listen to it yet. I did watch the performance at the Grammy Awards, and felt that I'd already heard about 80% of the musical motifs and arrangements already in In the Heights (right down to the last note of the song). Don't get me wrong - I LOVE In the Heights, but people aren't exactly fighting to get tickets for it here, so I'm interested to know why there's such extreme hype around Hamilton. It's not like the subject-matter seems that exciting... I actually agree that I have no idea why it is so popular... I only go to shows that I have an interest in, whether it be story, performer or music. But nothing about this really appeals to me at all. The story sounds uninteresting, granted I haven't heard the whole score. I saw it before the cast recording came out. The thing that's so amazing about Hamilton is that there's all this hype about it and yet it actually lives up to it. I really like The Book of Mormon but I don't think it lived up to its hype. You shouldn't judge the music of Hamilton from the Grammys alone. They chose that number to perform because it sets everything up and explains, it doesn't need to be put into context, but it's actually one of the weakest songs in the show. I like the score for In the Heights, but Hamilton's is much better and more accomplished. It also sounds different. There is much more rap in Hamilton and rather than the salsa/latin music of In the Heights, Lin-Manuel Miranda has incorporated the rap with R&B. He also wrote the book for Hamilton. He didn't for In the Heights and most people will state that the weakest part of ITH is the book. I agree that on paper the show sounds boring/weird. I don't think most people that are clamouring to get tickets were necessarily interested in Alexander Hamilton before they knew the show. But that's what makes it genius, LMM has made it interesting, he's made it fun, he's made it accessible. Not for one moment watching that show was I uninterested or bored. Yes there are a few people on BWW that don't like Hamilton, but you have to put that into comparison to the thousands upon thousands that love it. It's impossible to write something that everyone likes, but this one comes pretty close. I will say one thing though. This show, nor any other, is worth queuing up overnight for the chance to get a ticket. It's far, far better to wait until the next batch go on sale, buy one at normal price and wait patiently. I've done it twice now and I am looking forward to my next time seeing the show in Summer.
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