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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 15:55:26 GMT
Nancy's young, vibrant and a bit rough around the edges - plus she's from London. If that role goes to Idina Menzel, there's something seriously wrong with the casting process!! So many of the names mentioned here are the same old, same old. I really hope we don't see Hope Fletcher, a Strallen or Sheridan Smith here. There are plenty of young actresses who could give Nancy the outspoken but heartfelt hardness and diversity she should have. So only people from London can play Nancy?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 7, 2021 16:27:14 GMT
I think only an actress from the East End should play this. Or it’s offensive to Eastenders.
Or, they could just NOT REVIVE IT.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 7, 2021 16:30:17 GMT
Yeap Martine McCutcheon.
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Post by alece10 on Jan 7, 2021 16:37:31 GMT
It should be a bona fide Cockney and they must have been born within the sound of Bow Bells and preferably an ex or current pearley queen.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Jan 7, 2021 16:42:05 GMT
Nancy's young, vibrant and a bit rough around the edges - plus she's from London. If that role goes to Idina Menzel, there's something seriously wrong with the casting process!! So many of the names mentioned here are the same old, same old. I really hope we don't see Hope Fletcher, a Strallen or Sheridan Smith here. There are plenty of young actresses who could give Nancy the outspoken but heartfelt hardness and diversity she should have. So only people from London can play Nancy? I never said that, I just said it needs to be someone who suits the part. Even if she was the right age, are you telling me Idina Menzel can pull off a convincing London accent?
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Post by steve10086 on Jan 7, 2021 19:16:08 GMT
So only people from London can play Nancy? I never said that, I just said it needs to be someone who suits the part. Even if she was the right age, are you telling me Idina Menzel can pull off a convincing London accent? She struggles to pull off a convincing human voice.
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Post by westendboy on Jan 7, 2021 20:45:15 GMT
We're all discussing about who should play Fagin and Nancy, but what about Bill Sykes?
One person who comes to mind that could work is Andrew Lincoln. I don't think Sykes necessarily needs to have the best vocals and I can imagine Lincoln pulling the role off well. He can be intimidating and give off the impression of a person you don't want to mess with.
Although his schedule will probably get in the way, but who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 21:10:55 GMT
So only people from London can play Nancy? I never said that, I just said it needs to be someone who suits the part. Even if she was the right age, are you telling me Idina Menzel can pull off a convincing London accent? If it's just someone who suits the part, then Nancy being from London doesnt matter. I never mentioned anything about Idina Menzel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 21:12:19 GMT
And i would happily pay to see her do it, over nearly every single name mentioned so far.
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Post by robertb213 on Jan 7, 2021 21:16:04 GMT
Martine would actually be brilliant, to be fair.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Jan 7, 2021 21:55:47 GMT
I never said that, I just said it needs to be someone who suits the part. Even if she was the right age, are you telling me Idina Menzel can pull off a convincing London accent? If it's just someone who suits the part, then Nancy being from London doesnt matter. I never mentioned anything about Idina Menzel. I was originally responding to a previous poster who thought Idina Menzel would make a good Nancy. I pointed out that - amongst a list of other traits - Nancy is from London. I never said the actress had to be from London, only that she would need to convincingly portray Nancy and all her traits, one of which is a London accent. I apologise if my point wasn’t clear enough for you.
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Post by danb on Jan 7, 2021 22:04:51 GMT
Let’s just wait and see if it even happens first. I think I like the idea of Martine best. Approaching middle age but still got it.
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Post by robertb213 on Jan 7, 2021 22:21:36 GMT
I'd love to see Jessie Buckley do it as well. It would be a lovely way of honouring her roots and finally let us see how good her Nancy would've been (although Jodie was fabulous)
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Post by theatreian on Jan 7, 2021 23:20:14 GMT
Thinking back to I'd do anything I always thought Francesca Jackson was very good. I loved Jodie and was glad she won, but Francesca really sold that song.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 7, 2021 23:39:36 GMT
And i would happily pay to see her do it, over nearly every single name mentioned so far. Martine would actually be brilliant, to be fair. Ha, she would be good in the role, but if you want to see he, make sure you buy several tickets, over several performances. Not sure if Cameron Mackintosh would want to work with her again after My Fair ‘indisposed’ Lady. But saying that Martine hasn’t rush back to be on stage again, think she done a arena tour of Elf. So if appearing on stage caused problems, with poor mental health, then that is very sad.
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Post by hitmewithurbethshot on Jan 8, 2021 2:16:14 GMT
Iwan Rheon is probably too big a name now but he'd be a fantastic Bill Sykes
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Post by musicalmarge on Jan 8, 2021 8:47:42 GMT
Thinking back to I'd do anything I always thought Francesca Jackson was very good. I loved Jodie and was glad she won, but Francesca really sold that song. She’s an excellent talent! I saw her in a Kenwright Barry Manilow musical - Can’t Smile Without You? We should see more of her. Be good to get her into EastEnders too.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jan 8, 2021 8:53:05 GMT
We're all discussing about who should play Fagin and Nancy, but what about Bill Sykes? One person who comes to mind that could work is Andrew Lincoln. I don't think Sykes necessarily needs to have the best vocals and I can imagine Lincoln pulling the role off well. He can be intimidating and give off the impression of a person you don't want to mess with. Although his schedule will probably get in the way, but who knows. Michael Jibson. Years ago I was in am dram production of Oliver in Hull (me, me, me) I was shuffling around uncomfortablly in the chorus and MJ was our excellent Dodger (his brother was Oliver). After that they both went on to be boys in the Palladium production and 20 odd years later he gets Oliviers for Our House and Hamilton
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Post by zak97 on Jan 8, 2021 9:03:29 GMT
Picking up on names mentioned: Jessie Buckley, Iwan Rheon and Bill Bailey would be a great leading cast in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 9:23:20 GMT
Thinking back to I'd do anything I always thought Francesca Jackson was very good. I loved Jodie and was glad she won, but Francesca really sold that song. She’s an excellent talent! I saw her in a Kenwright Barry Manilow musical - Can’t Smile Without You? We should see more of her. Be good to get her into EastEnders too. She was also in the recent London staging of Tina: The Tina Turner Musical. She was quite good, but no, she will not be considered for any Oliiver! going forward.
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Post by alece10 on Jan 8, 2021 11:25:06 GMT
Picking up on names mentioned: Jessie Buckley, Iwan Rheon and Bill Bailey would be a great leading cast in my opinion. I'm not sure Jessie Buckley is a better.
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Post by danb on Jan 8, 2021 12:21:21 GMT
I was never sold on Jessie as Nancy during the show, nor am I now. She has already shown that her talents massively outstretch this role and it would be a massive waste of potential. I always felt so sorry for CM that the public went the obvious route with JP. It was right at the time but not exactly star making, I won’t expect to see Jessie on Celebrity Come Dine With Me any time soon but really look forward to seeing her in one of the forthcoming big budget musicals being made.
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Post by scarpia on Jan 11, 2021 22:00:32 GMT
I love Oliver! but I'm not particularly interested in another revival - especially one from Cameron. I'd be interested in a brand new production, but I expect we'll just get a scaled down remount of a previous show. I can imagine it now...'MORE SPECTACULAR THAN EVER' with a cast of 5. I hope Poppins gets to stick around for a bit longer...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 12, 2021 6:55:15 GMT
I walked out of Oliver at half time. It was no charisma Samantha Barks and full of himself Neil Morrissey who had the absolute nerve to insert a “joke” about Bob the Builder into the script. Added to that the overdone cor blimeyness of it all and it was all embarrassingly dreadful. I HATED it.
This was the run where CM turned up one night at The Palace to announce that SB had bagged the role of Eponine in the film.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jan 12, 2021 8:49:23 GMT
I walked out of Oliver at half time. It was no charisma Samantha Barks and full of himself Neil Morrissey who had the absolute nerve to insert a “joke” about Bob the Builder into the script. Added to that the overdone cor blimeyness of it all and it was all embarrassingly dreadful. I HATED it. This was the run where CM turned up one night at The Palace to announce that SB had bagged the role of Eponine in the film. Its sounds more Panto! Oliver has a dodgy book and dull but very humable score. If I never see it again then I'd be OK with that.
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Post by danb on Jan 12, 2021 10:07:15 GMT
I think that people warmly remember the (mostly) bright cheery movie and the ear worm tunes. Is this dark and really quite dreary production meant to brighten our spirits? I agree that it’s time to have a crack with a different production more akin to the film once lockdown lifts if it really is to be revived again. I’m quite sure that purists would disagree but I wouldn’t revisit it in its current state. Whilst Neil Morrissey adlibbing sounds like my worst nightmare, I think they could cast Biggins & get Arlene in to liven up the choreo without cheapening it too much.
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Post by westendboy on Jan 16, 2021 19:18:24 GMT
To continue suggestions on who could play Fagin, perhaps maybe Warwick Davis? The only musical he appeared in (as far as I'm aware) was 'Spamalot' and I was thinking that he could potentially make a good Fagin. Sure he doesn't have much musical theatre experience and is usually typecast, but I feel a role like this could probably break that typecasting, if he pulls it off that is.
In fact, why not allow more actors with disabilities a chance at being in big West End shows, not just those with dwarfism? Despite how far we've come, there's still so fewer roles.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 16, 2021 19:27:29 GMT
A lot of theatres are not equipped backstage to be fully accessible for a wide range of disabilities sadly.
It is a significant barrier to anyone with mobility issues with the large numbers of steps and lack of lifts in many older theatres.
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Post by westendboy on Jan 16, 2021 19:36:59 GMT
A lot of theatres are not equipped backstage to be fully accessible for a wide range of disabilities sadly. It is a significant barrier to anyone with mobility issues with the large numbers of steps and lack of lifts in many older theatres. That is a shame. I wish more producers and architects would consider these barriers and how to break them, so more people with disabilities can experience a show like everyone else. I know it would be difficult to implement these in older theatres. But what if (and this is a very big IF, as we don't know what theatre will look like in a post-COVID world) new theatres were built, but with more accessibilities backstage, front of house areas and auditoriums?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jan 16, 2021 19:47:25 GMT
The only theatre where I (kind of) consistently see disabled actors is the National Theatre, the West End should really step up
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