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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 24, 2021 19:54:18 GMT
I would have thought the Young Vic would be great for this. Very much agree , or it could work in a smaller space like the Donmar or Almeida I’m sure
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Post by inthenose on Sept 24, 2021 20:07:03 GMT
I'm getting vibes this might be going somewhere a little bigger, but could be wrong. Long way off anyway, these things always take ages
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Post by danielwhit on Sept 24, 2021 22:02:03 GMT
I imagine the recent discussions around Alice Ripley have left a sour taste around the original production so they might be up for someone reimagining the whole thing I've no idea what this refers to - can you enlighten me please?
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Sept 24, 2021 22:24:22 GMT
I imagine the recent discussions around Alice Ripley have left a sour taste around the original production so they might be up for someone reimagining the whole thing I've no idea what this refers to - can you enlighten me please? Without getting too deep into it, a lot of young women have come out about inappropriate relationships they had with Ripley as children during the show's run. There wasn't anything sexual about them (except for seemingly one minor instance where they had a conversation about a picture of Ripley in lingerie), it was all just very personal and intense relationships with children where she would invite them to her dressing room alone or have dinner with them. She'd form these close bonds but then drop them later on. She obviously had quite a profound affect on these already vulnerable children (they seemingly all connected with Alice due to her playing a character dealing with mental health issues) and then didn't handle the situation well by any stretch of the imagination. Nothing illegal but definitely inappropriate.
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Post by inthenose on Sept 24, 2021 23:07:15 GMT
I've no idea what this refers to - can you enlighten me please? Without getting too deep into it, a lot of young women have come out about inappropriate relationships they had with Ripley as children during the show's run. There wasn't anything sexual about them (except for seemingly one minor instance where they had a conversation about a picture of Ripley in lingerie), it was all just very personal and intense relationships with children where she would invite them to her dressing room alone or have dinner with them. She'd form these close bonds but then drop them later on. She obviously had quite a profound affect on these already vulnerable children (they seemingly all connected with Alice due to her playing a character dealing with mental health issues) and then didn't handle the situation well by any stretch of the imagination. Nothing illegal but definitely inappropriate. I did wonder if this subject would be breached on here. Here are some news reports covering the subject in more detail, with interviews from people involved discussing their alleged experiences and a denial of guilt from Alice Ripley: bit.ly/3CJ6jib (The Independent) bit.ly/2W913oo (Metro) bit.ly/3AGurBw (Rolling Stone)
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Post by shady23 on Sept 24, 2021 23:26:44 GMT
I personally found it pretty distasteful for some big broadway names to come out and say they didn't know her but she was innocent. Adam Pascal did a particularly triggering post, which I think he later deleted.
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Post by apubleed on Sept 25, 2021 9:01:45 GMT
I don't understand why Alice Ripley would have anything to do with whether Michael Grief could mount the original production in London. She wouldn't/couldn't star in it and really has nothing to do with it anymore? Open to new interpretations (I mean there have been so many productions worldwide) but it would be nice for London to see 'the brilliant original'. It's not just the physical production but Greif's directing in particular with the actors that was outstanding (in fact the physical production was probably secondary to the acting direction). I'd love to see what Michael might do with some local talent.
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Post by inthenose on Oct 5, 2021 21:44:50 GMT
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Post by gmoneyoutlaw on Oct 6, 2021 1:10:39 GMT
Will this production be in English?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 5:18:01 GMT
Will this production be in English? Yes. The Spanish article on Broadway World Spain says the production will be in English. I saw the Spanish version, Casi Normales, in Madrid in 2017 and thought it was brilliant. The producer who devised this new idea is Pablo del Campo, who produced that Spanish version, so I'll be interested to see this in Barcelona.
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Post by inthenose on Mar 16, 2022 6:20:01 GMT
The arrogance!
I love this show, but they are acting like an out of town tryout is a huge insult. This show was workshopped, ran off-broadway to get it right and now they expect it to do "2 years minimum" at 700 a night.
The director and US producers of this show have very strange ideas and expectations.
This potential production is now dead in its current form.
Unless a strong and well funded regional venue and leader like Nikolai's boss can pick it up, I think this show is done, sadly. They want guarantees of a West End run to follow.
So sad. This show could've added so much to town.
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Post by inthenose on Mar 16, 2022 6:28:04 GMT
Additional: they still won't release the amateur rights. Pathetic.
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Post by Paul on Mar 16, 2022 10:59:49 GMT
Joanna Riding would make an amazing Diana.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 20:53:00 GMT
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Post by inthenose on Mar 31, 2022 21:08:59 GMT
This sounds truly surreal. I am expecting a big projected Adam Pascal head on a screen.
A bit like when Homer goes for re-Neducation in one of the Treehouse of Horror episodes.
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Post by inthenose on Jun 11, 2022 8:29:40 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 11, 2022 8:59:07 GMT
Not just immersive, but disruptive also!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2022 12:04:26 GMT
I think it looks great. Looking forward to seeing this.
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Post by squidward on Jun 12, 2022 1:40:38 GMT
I know this is an often-asked question on here, but I wonder why NTN has never been produced here in the UK? The immersive version looks fascinating, but the original Broadway show was a profoundly moving experience that I’ll never forget.
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Post by inthenose on Jun 12, 2022 2:05:56 GMT
See the last few pages. It was set to happen.
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Post by squidward on Jun 12, 2022 17:29:01 GMT
See the last few pages. It was set to happen. None of that explains definitively why the show hasn’t come here, although 2 years in a 700 seat theatre is a weird directive. I don’t think it ran for two years on Broadway ( apologies if I’m mistaken). It’s such a niche show, definitely not one for coach party bookings or one where you’ll come out humming the tunes. I loved it. Sadly there are aspects of the narrative that I can personally identify with and I was so affected by it that I took me a while to get out of my seat and leave the theatre at the end. I think star casting ( as in musical stars like Hannah W or Jenna R) would really spoil it. When I saw it I had never heard of Marin Mazzie and that helped to keep the focus on the intensity of Diana’s character, rather than an actress who had been the lead in many other shows giving her interpretation of Diana. Of course without star casting it could have a very short commercial life, so somewhere like The Dorfman or Young Vic would suit it so much better than a Shaftesbury Ave theatre. I’m glad it never happened at The Menier. The casting there can often be way off beam or the same actors in the old boys and girls club turning up over and over again.
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 12, 2022 19:18:29 GMT
...Marin Mazzie is literally the definition of Broadway star casting though.
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Post by squidward on Jun 13, 2022 1:47:57 GMT
Not for a Brit like me though.
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 13, 2022 13:10:38 GMT
I think you're in a minority though, because (as a Brit) Marin Mazzie was a big Broadway name (original Mother in Ragtime, the huge Kiss Me Kate revival, various takeovers including from Kelli O'Hara in the King and I) - she was a huge name, and in the comparison of Hannah Waddingham and Jenna Russell being the British version of star casting, Marin Mazzie would have absolutely been the Broadway definition of that - she wasn't an unknown taking over in Next to Normal, it was HUGE that someone of her stature was doing it...
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Post by squidward on Jun 13, 2022 15:02:02 GMT
I’m often in a minority in more ways than one. I guess I’d be sorry to see this show become ‘the Hannah Waddingham ( or insert other UK MT revered leading lady here) show’ rather than something that purely stands on the material. As I think I mentioned before, this show feels very resonant for me as it mirrors issues I have dealt with personally. I think the part of Diana calls for outstanding acting chops, as well as musical ones, and Marin Mazzie had both and the some.
If only Nicola Walker could sing, she’d be my perfect Diana.
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Post by mattnyc on Jun 13, 2022 15:33:47 GMT
When Marin and Jason took over, the show became an “event” for Broadway. She was so brilliant (as was Alice) but being able to see her and her husband do this together was something really special. Marin was, and will always be, one of our greatest performers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 11:06:55 GMT
Here is a video from last night's first preview of Next to Normal in Barcelona. www.instagram.com/reel/CfgUT24ooD7/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=(I know this technically belongs in the International section, but there has been some discussion here about the immersive version, so here's how it looks)
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Post by inthenose on Jul 2, 2022 22:42:50 GMT
Here is a video from last night's first preview of Next to Normal in Barcelona. www.instagram.com/reel/CfgUT24ooD7/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=(I know this technically belongs in the International section, but there has been some discussion here about the immersive version, so here's how it looks) Thanks! Any more clips people find would be very much appreciated, as there is no way I can justify flying to Barcelona for a one hour experience!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 12:43:50 GMT
Here is a video from last night's first preview of Next to Normal in Barcelona. www.instagram.com/reel/CfgUT24ooD7/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=(I know this technically belongs in the International section, but there has been some discussion here about the immersive version, so here's how it looks) Thanks! Any more clips people find would be very much appreciated, as there is no way I can justify flying to Barcelona for a one hour experience! The official opening night is next Wednesday, so I'm hoping they provide more footage then. It is a bit frustrating it's just an abridged hour-long version (although those seats (cubes) wouldn't be comfortable to sit on for 2.5 hours). It might have been on this thread or elsewhere on the forum, but was there talk of a film adaptation of Next to Normal at one point?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 15:11:53 GMT
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