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Post by sweets7 on Aug 7, 2023 23:46:51 GMT
Is this still happening. There are rumours on Twitter (X) that Icke is doing Henry IV parts 1 and 2 in the West End next with Ian McKellen as Falstaff. Noel Coward theatre. According to Greg Doran in 2014 he offered Falstaff to McKellen when he was directing Henry IV but he turned it down. This left Doran totally stumped until someone (I think McKellen himself) said “But the perfect Falstaff is under your nose !” and only at that point did Doran consider offering it to Anthony Sher. Ha ha. If you believe that etc. Not sure that McKellen is right for that part - Justice Shallow maybe - but what is not in doubt is that he normally chooses the best director for his Shakespeares (his last Hamlet being an obvious exception). If you belief that. I didn’t see that but did see Sher in Death of a Salesman. Co staring Harriet Walker who said on that Bryson podcast that she was returning to the stage. So yes maybe her. Still maintain the best person I ever saw on stage was M. Gambon. Just extraordinary. The dear much missed H McCrory too although I never really know whether that was her sheer sexiness…which always caught me when I saw her because it didn’t really translate to the screen. Not for me anyway.
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Post by Jan on Aug 8, 2023 9:05:43 GMT
Still maintain the best person I ever saw on stage was M. Gambon. Just extraordinary. Gambon is one of several actors I’ve seen disappoint as Falstaff - you would have thought he’d have been perfect for it. The only one I can remember who was good in the role was Robert Stephens. Of current actors I’d rather see Conleth Hill play it than McKellen.
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Post by sweets7 on Aug 8, 2023 9:26:25 GMT
Still maintain the best person I ever saw on stage was M. Gambon. Just extraordinary. Gambon is one of several actors I’ve seen disappoint as Falstaff - you would have thought he’d have been perfect for it. The only one I can remember who was good in the role was Robert Stephens. Of current actors I’d rather see Conleth Hill play it than McKellen. Maybe Toby has inherited the flair. Wait until he gets to that age. I didn’t see him play that part.
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Post by Jan on Aug 8, 2023 17:14:44 GMT
Gambon is one of several actors I’ve seen disappoint as Falstaff - you would have thought he’d have been perfect for it. The only one I can remember who was good in the role was Robert Stephens. Of current actors I’d rather see Conleth Hill play it than McKellen. Maybe Toby has inherited the flair. Wait until he gets to that age. I didn’t see him play that part. I like Gambon, King Lear, A View from the Bridge, and others. But for Henry IV by mistake I went to a surtitled performance and he was departing from the text, it made for an anxious viewing, probably for the other actors too.
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Post by lynette on Aug 8, 2023 17:35:18 GMT
Sher was an excellent Falstaff. The anecdote is in Doran’s book and I do believe it.
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Post by David J on Aug 8, 2023 20:25:43 GMT
Roger Allan’s falstaff all the way for me. David Warner was my first falstaff in Michael Boyd’s histories but I can’t remember much now. I did think Boyd’s vision didn’t match with Henry part 1’s lighthearted tone. Part 2 was better, and that was directed by his assistant director
I do also remember liking Anthony Quayle in the 1979 bbc version
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Post by sweets7 on Aug 8, 2023 23:28:55 GMT
He doesn't look bad for it. A wig, a little night cream, a few Pilates classes and he'd get away with .. late-ish 40s? Love this. Wouldn’t we all be thrilled with that.
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Post by Jan on Aug 9, 2023 7:41:32 GMT
Roger Allan’s falstaff all the way for me. David Warner was my first falstaff in Michael Boyd’s histories but I can’t remember much now. I did think Boyd’s vision didn’t match with Henry part 1’s lighthearted tone. Part 2 was better, and that was directed by his assistant director I do also remember liking Anthony Quayle in the 1979 bbc version I didn’t see Allam. I thought Warner was hopelessly miscast, Sher too, even Simon R-B was mediocre in the TV version. John Woodvine was very good years ago.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jan 18, 2024 18:39:32 GMT
Mirren out, Manville in
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Post by aspieandy on Jan 18, 2024 19:44:22 GMT
Indeed. A bit of a blow.
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Post by Rory on Jan 18, 2024 19:48:14 GMT
I'm happy with this casting!
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Post by dr on Jan 18, 2024 19:49:46 GMT
This might be a new most-anticipated show of the year. The ITA production sounds thrilling and the fact it's coming during the US election seems to be no coincidence (Icke adapts it to be a Succession-style election drama, according to reviews.)
It's a shame Hans Kesting won't come to London, but Strong and Manville are sure to be excellent, and the Wyndham's will be a good house for it.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jan 18, 2024 19:52:14 GMT
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Post by sf on Jan 18, 2024 20:44:56 GMT
Typical. You wait ages for an Oedipus, and then two show up at once.
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Post by Jon on Jan 18, 2024 22:18:19 GMT
The Old Vic Oedipus will probably be late January and I suspect the Mark Strong one will be closed by early January.
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Post by dr on Jan 18, 2024 22:27:59 GMT
The dates are available on the OV Website: 21 Jan–29 Mar 2025.
The Icke version is set to start on the 4th October, for a "limited run" - so will likely close early December at worst, or early January at best (in the vein of Sunset Boulevard, Old Friends, Dear England etc. this season.)
The Oedipus-Oedipus double show day appears unlikely...
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Post by Fleance on Jan 18, 2024 22:57:44 GMT
Looking forward to all Oedipuses. I don't think I've seen one since Adrian Noble's production at the RSC/Barbican, with Gerard Murphy.
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Post by alexandra on Jan 18, 2024 23:25:37 GMT
This might be a new most-anticipated show of the year. The ITA production sounds thrilling and the fact it's coming during the US election seems to be no coincidence (Icke adapts it to be a Succession-style election drama, according to reviews.) It's a shame Hans Kesting won't come to London, but Strong and Manville are sure to be excellent, and the Wyndham's will be a good house for it. It’s tremendous. I’ve seen it twice and will happily see it again, notwithstanding the absence of the supremely charismatic Kesting and Heebink.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 19, 2024 0:56:28 GMT
This Wyndhams version will run October to January.
I’d watch Manville read the phone book so I’m in.
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Post by Jon on Jan 19, 2024 1:16:01 GMT
I've only seen Lesley Manville in Long Day's Journey into Night and she was very good.
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Post by Jan on Jan 19, 2024 7:48:54 GMT
Looking forward to all Oedipuses. I don't think I've seen one since Adrian Noble's production at the RSC/Barbican, with Gerard Murphy. Yes it doesn't come around all that often (there's a reason for that). The last one I saw (Sophocles version) was Ralph Fiennes at NT and before that Alan Howard at NT (paired with Oedipus at Colonus). I've also seen the Seneca version. I don't think its a problem there are two productions happening, look at all the Macbeths we have currently which is a far more frequently produced play. The Robert Icke one has been on the cards since pre-Covid and Matthew Warchus will have been well aware of that when programming the Old Vic version.
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Post by adolphus on Jan 19, 2024 11:04:13 GMT
Alan Howard was also excellent as Teiresias in the Fiennes/Higgins version. Looking forward to both these productions. Can't remember when I was last looking forward to so many productions in the big West End Houses - this, Godot, Long Day's Journey, Player Kings, Opening Night
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Post by Rory on Mar 18, 2024 19:12:50 GMT
Email with new artwork received this evening confirming pre-sale tomorrow at 12 noon, with a link coming at 11.30am. Begins 4th October.
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Post by Jan on Mar 19, 2024 8:59:50 GMT
The good news is that Robert Icke agrees with Peter Brook that the most depressing thing about theatre today is excessively high ticket prices. Let's hope he is able to convince the producers of this. We'll see at 11:30am. Based on ticket prices for his Henry IV my guess is that he hasn't tried that hard to convince the producers.
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Post by Rory on Mar 19, 2024 10:11:15 GMT
Booking to 4th January 2025. DMT+ on sale now.
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Post by Dave B on Mar 19, 2024 10:18:47 GMT
Booking to 4th January 2025. DMT+ on sale now. Any hint of prices?
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Post by Steve on Mar 19, 2024 10:27:09 GMT
Booking to 4th January 2025. DMT+ on sale now. Any hint of prices? Previews: £55 back of Stalls, £75 Most of Stalls, Same for Dress, Upper Circle from £25 - 45 Main run Weekdays: £65 back of Stalls, £85 Most of Stalls, Same for Dress, Upper Circle, £25 - 50 Main run Weekends: £70 Back of Stalls, £90 Most of Stalls, Same for Dress, Upper Circle, £25 - £50
Premium Tickets Excluded. Most Expenisve Champagne Ticket is in the Dress for £180 with Perks
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Post by rumbledoll on Mar 19, 2024 11:11:01 GMT
Previews: £55 back of Stalls, £75 Most of Stalls, Same for Dress, Upper Circle from £25 - 45 Main run Weekdays: £65 back of Stalls, £85 Most of Stalls, Same for Dress, Upper Circle, £25 - 50 Main run Weekends: £70 Back of Stalls, £90 Most of Stalls, Same for Dress, Upper Circle, £25 - £50
Premium Tickets Excluded. Most Expenisve Champagne Ticket is in the Dress for £180 with Perks
Are they selling the front row? (Hoping for discounts afterwards, would love to see Icke’s take on this, but the trip dates are not defined for me at the moment so don’t want to book blind…)
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Mar 19, 2024 12:00:19 GMT
Are the £30 for under 30s on sale with this batch or will they be separate?
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Post by Steve on Mar 19, 2024 12:07:05 GMT
I think the closest row they are currently selling is Row D.
And I didn't see any under 30 tickets.
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