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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 13:21:31 GMT
Thrilled for School of Rock, Spring Awakening, Alex Brightman, Zachary Levi, Laurie Metcalf, Laura Benanti, Cynthia Erivo, Megan Hilty and Danielle Brooks for all of their nominations! Shocked at no Audra or Jennifer Hudson and that Jonathan Groff was nominated. Not that he doesn’t deserve it for what he is doing, but that the role is not really a deserving kind of role. That said, congratulations to Hamilton! Sure, Groff has a limited amount of stage time, but he uses his time so well. He owned that role, he was truly phenomenal and I am really sad he's left the show. I'm not at all criticising his performance. I am merely saying I am surprised he was nominated because of that factor. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one that managed to push Hamilton over the 15 nominations.
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Post by Steffi on May 3, 2016 13:22:26 GMT
No nomination for Audra did suprise me a bit but mainly because it had become such a common thing for her to be nominated for every role.
Not surprised Jennifer Hudson was left out. In fact this makes the awards more credible for me - she's a celebrity, yes. But from all I've heard her performance simply isn't award worthy (I might be totally wrong but that's the impression I got after talking to people who've seen her in the show).
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Post by foxa on May 3, 2016 13:36:30 GMT
Wow - so many shows that we've seen in London: The Father, King Charles III, A View from the Bridge, American Psycho, The Color Purple. I'm really happy for Cynthia Erivo and I loved A View from the Bridge and Mark Strong's performance in it. Audra has tweeted that she isn't surprised not to be nominated and is delighted with the list. I think she's great. But she doesn't need another Tony.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 3, 2016 13:40:33 GMT
You know how I said the other day what will this year's snub be? Well we finally have an answer...
America Psycho
A lot of people seem to be quite angry over this.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 13:40:50 GMT
The trouble with the Hamilton wins is that, if it wins all of its awards in each category it is nominated in (which I hope it doesn't for some of them as there are other shows that deserve some of the other awards) then it will of won 13 awards which is a new record too. But, with the performance awards, it may not actually be able to win all of the awards expected. I can't see it winning in any of the categories it is nominated in regarding the performances actually, except possibly Featured Actress but I still want Danielle Brooks to win.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 3, 2016 13:43:22 GMT
The trouble with the Hamilton wins is that, if it wins all of its awards in each category it is nominated in (which I hope it doesn't for some of them as there are other shows that deserve some of the other awards) then it will of won 13 awards which is a new record too. But, with the performance awards, it may not actually be able to win all of the awards expected. I can't see it winning in any of the categories it is nominated in regarding the performances actually, except possibly Featured Actress but I still want Danielle Brooks to win. There's no way it's going home empty handed in the acting category's. It will definitely get one of the supporting category's, if not both. Not sure about leading actor though.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 13:45:21 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong Daniel, but you haven't seen the show yet have you?
The greatness of these performances can't be truly replicated through the cast album. It wont win all of its awards, nor does it deserve to, but at least one actor from Hamilton will take home a Tony (I think it's more likely to be 2-3 though).
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 3, 2016 13:46:18 GMT
The greatness of these performances can't be truly replicated through the cast album. You have to be in... the room where it happens!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 13:53:44 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong Daniel, but you haven't seen the show yet have you? The greatness of these performances can't be truly replicated through the cast album. It wont win all of its awards, nor does it deserve to, but at least one actor from Hamilton will take home a Tony (I think it's more likely to be 2-3 though). You are correct in that I haven't yet seen it, though I have had the offer too this Summer. And I am not going by their performances, as I have said many times before I am sure they are all fantastic and I am not saying they are not at all deserving, in any way shape or form. So please do not think of me making judgements based on just a cast recording. I just wouldn't be surprised, based on what I have heard through word of mouth, reviews, cast recordings, videos etc... if it turned out that...
Danny Burstein wins as he has been nominated many times and lost every time. It will be the Kelli upset from last year, where everyone wants Kristin to win but Kelli wins because she has never won before.
Cynthia or Laura wins as Cynthia has been seen as a lock from the opening night and deservedly so. And Laura has been getting raves for her performance so I wouldn't be surprised if she wins there either.
Renee, again as I have said, is the most likely winner for Featured Actress. I personally would like to see Danielle win but if Hamilton is to win in an Acting category, this is the one it will happen in.
Again, Featured Actor, I don't know truly what will happen.
That is just my opinion based on everything, it is just my opinion. If Hamilton is to lose, it will be in at least two categories for performances in my honest opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 13:56:12 GMT
I think Renee and Daveed are very likely and leading actor will be either Leslie or Burstein. Although Burstein has been nominated many times, his performance in Fiddler is not as acclaimed as Kelli's in The King and I (nor is the revival itself). It's very subtle and nuanced.
Phillipa, much as I adore her, has no chance but I'm just so happy she got nominated.
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Post by Jon on May 3, 2016 14:05:31 GMT
Leslie Odom Jr will likely win over LMM and Danny Burstein and likewise with the supporting roles.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 14:10:59 GMT
You know how I said the other day what will this year's snub be? Well we finally have an answer... America Psycho A lot of people seem to be quite angry over this. It's still two more nominations than it got at the 2014 Olivier Awards! At least it still has plenty of nods for the Drama Desk and Outer Critic Awards.
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Post by Steffi on May 3, 2016 14:11:24 GMT
I would be very happy for Danny Burstein to win. He's wonderful in Fiddler. :-)
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Post by theatre-turtle on May 3, 2016 14:14:14 GMT
Shame no nominations for allegiance ?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 14:19:23 GMT
The Jane Krakowski Tony Award campaign starts here!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 17:33:27 GMT
Yeahhhh I don't think Jennifer is very happy...
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 3, 2016 17:39:02 GMT
I've been trying to make some guesses on who will win best musical. I haven't got a clue! Not sure about best revival of a musical. That could go to anyone. I have a sneaky suspicion Alex Brightman will get leading actor. Most people are saying it's between Danny and Leslie, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it went to Alex. I've seen Lin, Leslie and Alex and Lin was by far my favourite though. Leading actress is definitely Cythina Eviro's. That one's obvious. Supporting actor is a tricky one. I've heard some really good stuff about Christopher Fitzgerald in Waitress and they may give it to him, but it's most likely Daveed's award. I'm pretty sure Renée's going to win supporting actress.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 3, 2016 17:39:44 GMT
Yeahhhh I don't think Jennifer is very happy... It wouldn't surprise me if she left early now.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 17:51:48 GMT
Yeahhhh I don't think Jennifer is very happy... It wouldn't surprise me if she left early now. This week is her last week anyway haha, she announced departure from the show a month ago. she only signed on for 6 months, including previews.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 18:24:12 GMT
Not happy at all lol
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 3, 2016 18:30:51 GMT
The tweets deleted now. She should've worded her tweet differently. Instead of this passive aggressive tweet, she should just said "I didn't really expect to be nominated, so happy for Cynthia and Danielle though. "
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on May 3, 2016 18:39:10 GMT
The lack of appreciation from critics and sections of the audience for American Psycho is something I found depressing. I realised a while ago that a number of shows that I've similarly appreciated have resulted in that same disparity though. I saw what I perceived as a cleverly integrated whole matching style with substance; the substance affecting me deeply emotionally whilst the style providing the visceral thrill. Instead, however, I read from others a fixation on the style with their seemingly unable to access the substance that I saw.
Is it that the style is too overwhelming for some so it becomes the totality of their experience? American Psycho certainly doesn't hold back with the sensory overload (I love sensory overload!). Which brings me to Hamilton that is able to have its stylistically innovative cake which appears to nourish nearly everyone (okay, I'll drop the metaphor).
I haven't seen Hamilton but Miranda treads a careful middle way whereby the strength of actual history and the palatability is high compared to American Psycho's cousins in violence and tattered morality such as Three Kingdoms and Sarah Kane. Bright Star, School of Rock, Waitress, Shuffle Along even are small c conservative. Other murderous shows justify their body count, such as the social background of Sweeney Todd, American Psycho is a giant FU to consumer capitalism and The Donald. No wonder it got stiffed, if the substance don't get you, the two fingers to the audience's way of life will.*
*Whenever I go to New York the well-heeledness of the audience surprises me compared to the London audience, ticket prices playing a large part I imagine. When I saw Urinetown the audience, irony of ironies, was more Wall Street than anything else.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 19:11:49 GMT
Yeahhhh I don't think Jennifer is very happy... I'm surprised that Jennifer wasn't nominated. She deserved to be and, for a Broadway debut, she seemed pretty good. Come me over to London Jennifer, we'll welcome you!!
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 3, 2016 19:39:14 GMT
Yeahhhh I don't think Jennifer is very happy... I'm surprised that Jennifer wasn't nominated. She deserved to be and, for a Broadway debut, she seemed pretty good. Come me over to London Jennifer, we'll welcome you!! The problem is, is that that was quite a competitive category. Sadly you can't nominate everyone.
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Post by kathryn on May 3, 2016 20:14:33 GMT
So, Hamilton to sweep the board?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 20:55:46 GMT
I think we are all forgetting a very interesting race that has not been mentioned and is another one that could get in the way of Hamilton's record break and that is Choreography... will it be Andy or will it be Savion for Shuffle Along?
I have read many interesting thoughts; ranging from "Savion SHOULD win, but he won't" to "it depends what is considered Choreography?" As Hamilton is very movement based whilst Shuffle is huge dance numbers etc... it is certainly shaping up to be one of the most interesting races of the night and one I could certainly see going either way!
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Post by 49thand8th on May 3, 2016 21:18:58 GMT
So, Hamilton to sweep the board? I'm sure having multiple nominations will split the vote in some categories.
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Post by JJShaw on May 3, 2016 21:24:09 GMT
its no surprise that hamilton has set another record with all its nominations, interesting that its managed to do so with the lack of the sound design category (which The Producers and Billy Elliot had when they set the record for 12) and really interesting to read some peoples responses to it all!
i have just realised that i will actually be in new york for the tony awards ceremony so thats going to be really exciting to see those shows pre and post awards!
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Post by Phantom of London on May 3, 2016 22:03:06 GMT
One problem with awards and none of them are exactly perfect, that is that people love one musical and I use Hamilton as an example and tick every catogory, so could have a Hamilton sweep with 13 Tonys, instead of looking at each catogory objectively and say perhaps best choreography and best support actor actually comes from another show that has been nominated.
I hope/fear it will be a Hamilton sweep, not that the show needs it.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 22:08:54 GMT
Hamilton will pick up every award it is nominated for bar Leading Actor, Leading Actress and Choreography. That is my guess only, obviously having no inside knowledge or anything. I think those will go to Danny, Cynthia and Shuffle Along. I kind of hope they do too, just for the sake of making the night more interesting!
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