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Post by intoanewlife on Aug 27, 2019 21:38:28 GMT
I can't remember the last time I even thought of anything to do with Jewish people and frankly I doubt think they are on most people's radar very often either. ...and given the recent - documented - rise in anti-Semitism, that's part of the reason a public conversation about representation and identity is so necessary.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Aug 28, 2019 8:40:09 GMT
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 28, 2019 9:09:01 GMT
I'd have had FAR more (actually 'some') respect for this person if he'd have stepped up early on in the process and inspired/created some real change instead of (as you point out) kicking a hornets nest with little to no thought for the consequences and looking like a bitter 'whiny little *****'. What a horrific, racist, dishonest series of posts. 1. It was a large group of people not one man. 2. None of them have any connection to the production so obviously short of being psychic there’s no way they could have “stepped up” prior to the public announcement. 3. They did contact the producers privately and had private conversations. 4. A group of people from an oppressed ethnic minority complaining that a play about that minority group being staged without a single person actually of that ethnicity is not “bitter and whiny.” Not sure why you felt the need to drag up Israel or the Labour Party, has neither have anything to do with this thread. Oh and “intoanewlife” I’m really curious as to why in one post you stated that you’ve been waiting “years” to see another production of Falsettos and felt the letter had “tarnished” your long-awaited chance to see it again, yet in another post you claimed to be completely unfamiliar with Falsettos and that you didn’t have the slightest clue what the musical is about until the scandal? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Oh and welcome to the board. Always great when brand new posters get really stuck in like that.
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Post by sf on Aug 28, 2019 13:25:20 GMT
...and given the recent - documented - rise in anti-Semitism, that's part of the reason a public conversation about representation and identity is so necessary. I'm old. I remember when people in online discussions constructed arguments to back up their point.
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Post by intoanewlife on Aug 28, 2019 19:07:42 GMT
I'd have had FAR more (actually 'some') respect for this person if he'd have stepped up early on in the process and inspired/created some real change instead of (as you point out) kicking a hornets nest with little to no thought for the consequences and looking like a bitter 'whiny little *****'. What a horrific, racist, dishonest series of posts. 1. It was a large group of people not one man. 2. None of them have any connection to the production so obviously short of being psychic there’s no way they could have “stepped up” prior to the public announcement. 3. They did contact the producers privately and had private conversations. 4. A group of people from an oppressed ethnic minority complaining that a play about that minority group being staged without a single person actually of that ethnicity is not “bitter and whiny.” Not sure why you felt the need to drag up Israel or the Labour Party, has neither have anything to do with this thread. Oh and “intoanewlife” I’m really curious as to why in one post you stated that you’ve been waiting “years” to see another production of Falsettos and felt the letter had “tarnished” your long-awaited chance to see it again, yet in another post you claimed to be completely unfamiliar with Falsettos and that you didn’t have the slightest clue what the musical is about until the scandal? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Oh and welcome to the board. Always great when brand new posters get really stuck in like that. I'm not racist or dishonest, I can be pretty horrific after a few drinks though and if I eat too much and don't exercise. 1-4 I'm bored of already and have said all I have to say on the matter. Others brought up Labour and considering most of the fingers pointing at them is because of his/their stance on Israel, I threw in a bit of Israel for good measure. I missed the recent Broadway production, I couldn't fit it in to my busy schedule so I was disappointed. I didn't have a full grasp of what it was about other than a lot of people were raving about it. I tend to go into most things I see totally blind, I do the same with movies. No trailers for me, weirdo I know. I thought it was a musical about the gheys, as I said I had no idea they were Jewish the gheys and I like Andrew Whatshisface who was in the Broadway production. Unfortunately it closed in between trips. Thank you, I look forward to you calling me names again in the future. Love and light x
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Post by lonlad on Aug 28, 2019 22:40:47 GMT
the "gheys"
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Post by intoanewlife on Aug 28, 2019 23:03:44 GMT
the "gheys" Gheys = classy gays x
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 29, 2019 6:37:27 GMT
Director Steven Dexter’s tweet about Jewish actors wearing yellow stars and tattooing their Spotlight number on their arms is disgraceful.
And isn’t it interesting how many brand new anonymous Twitter accounts (with zero followers, zero following, no profile photo, no name, display name things like “Jewish Theatremaker”) have sprung up to defend Steven Dexter and attack the letter signers? Some accounts have only ever sent one tweet, defending Steven Dexter, and somehow he’s finding and liking those tweets despite not being @ into them.
Oh and ^^, calling a post (not a person) “racist” is an opinion, not “name calling.” Bit rich coming from someone who posted calling Adam “bitter and whiny” among other things.
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Post by sf on Aug 29, 2019 9:34:02 GMT
I'm not racist or dishonest That, I'm afraid, is not entirely for you to judge. People are free to draw their own conclusions based on the evidence you've given them.
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Post by latefortheoverture on Aug 29, 2019 11:26:56 GMT
Sorry to be so behind, I'm a little confused.
I get that a group of Jewish people within the arts wrote a letter. Did it not say they wished more Jewish voices were involced in Jewish stories? Which is a completely fair point, but was it directly aimed at Falsettos or the industry as a whole?
Why all this backlash?
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Post by sf on Aug 29, 2019 11:39:51 GMT
Sorry to be so behind, I'm a little confused. I get that a group of Jewish people within the arts wrote a letter. Did it not say they wished more Jewish voices were involced in Jewish stories? Which is a completely fair point, but was it directly aimed at Falsettos or the industry as a whole? Why all this backlash?
Because some people, bizarrely, seem to feel threatened when members of minority groups assert themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 11:51:04 GMT
I'm not racist or dishonest That, I'm afraid, is not entirely for you to judge. People are free to draw their own conclusions based on the evidence you've given them. People should probably also bear in mind legal action can be taken if they libel (or slander) another person as a result. The burden of proof being on the person making the libellous/slanderous remark, so they’d better be very sure they can back up their own judgement.
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Post by amp09 on Aug 29, 2019 12:18:45 GMT
Come on everyone, we’re all here for a love of theatre. It’s not nice to read accusations being thrown around to the point that libel and slander are being mentioned. Emotions are high over this, but I do feel the discussion has gone a bit too far, and got too personal. Let’s all move on.
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Post by robertb213 on Aug 29, 2019 14:07:40 GMT
^^ Agreed. Looking forward to hearing the verdicts from tomorrow's first preview 😀
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 29, 2019 16:40:15 GMT
That, I'm afraid, is not entirely for you to judge. People are free to draw their own conclusions based on the evidence you've given them. People should probably also bear in mind legal action can be taken if they libel (or slander) another person as a result. The burden of proof being on the person making the libellous/slanderous remark, so they’d better be very sure they can back up their own judgement. Opinions are not libellous and I was very careful to say “the post is racist and dishonest” not “the person is racist and dishonest.” The posts in question (namely the allegation that the signatories went to the press without substantial private conversations with the producers first) were not factually accurate. If anyone’s getting sued for libel it’s not me.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 29, 2019 20:42:13 GMT
Posts removed. Tm has asked that this discussion moves on. Let’s do that please.
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Post by carmella1 on Aug 29, 2019 21:02:19 GMT
No problems.
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 29, 2019 21:15:04 GMT
Apologies - of course
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Post by xanady on Aug 30, 2019 9:34:51 GMT
We are there tonight.Will report back asap.
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Post by ABr on Aug 30, 2019 9:46:51 GMT
I agree, lets bring it back around to an appreciation of the show! I've not booked tickets yet but I can't wait to see it, and see what they've done with it! I want reports from people who see it ASAP!
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Post by JJShaw on Aug 30, 2019 9:52:17 GMT
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Post by theatre241 on Aug 30, 2019 18:30:45 GMT
Just seen a photo of the set on instagram, doesn't look what I expected It tot look like. Theres a lot of motif's on photo frames and everything is very black and white
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Post by xanady on Aug 30, 2019 22:03:53 GMT
Whst a night! A fabulous atmosphere of electric anticipation in the foyer and in the auditorium before the show.Creatives pacing around behind us at back of theatre.We were in Row M.There is not a bad seat in the whole theatre. As stated by previous poster and as seen all over Instagram etc,the stage is a chess board inside an art gallery with each ‘frame’ either empty for a character to look through or a video screen. A brilliant show...very emotional...sung beautifully throughout.A well-drilled tight cast. Immediate standing ovation.Lots of older teenagers in. Highly recommended. Will post more tomorrow as now in a bar near Tower Hill....
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Post by theatre241 on Aug 30, 2019 22:18:24 GMT
Whst a night! A fabulous atmosphere of electric anticipation in the foyer and in the auditorium before the show.Creatives pacing around behind us at back of theatre.We were in Row M.There is not a bad seat in the whole theatre. As stated by previous poster and as seen all over Instagram etc,the stage is a chess board inside an art gallery with each ‘frame’ either empty for a character to look through or a video screen. A brilliant show...very emotional...sung beautifully throughout.A well-drilled tight cast. Immediate standing ovation.Lots of older teenagers in. Highly recommended. Will post more tomorrow as now in a bar near Tower Hill.... Looking to book tickets for this, the last row is £25 and the row that you were sat in is £29, is it worth splashing out to be 1 row forward?
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 30, 2019 22:39:59 GMT
For a first preview, it’s in wonderful shape. Act 1 felt like it took about 15 mins for everyone to settle, and get into their stride, but from then on it just got better and better. Cast are universally excellent - must shout out to Daniel Boys who is giving an astonishing performance as Marvin - I didn’t know how anyone would match Christian Borle but he is just wonderful. Some technical issues with sound, lighting cues missed and mics dropping in and out but that will all be fixed. But an instant standing ovation, and an extremely emotional audience. Think it’s gonna be a big hit.
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Post by theatre241 on Aug 30, 2019 22:50:53 GMT
For a first preview, it’s in wonderful shape. Act 1 felt like it took about 15 mins for everyone to settle, and get into their stride, but from then on it just got better and better. Cast are universally excellent - must shout out to Daniel Boys who is giving an astonishing performance as Marvin - I didn’t know how anyone would match Christian Borle but he is just wonderful. Some technical issues with sound, lighting cues missed and mics dropping in and out but that will all be fixed. But an instant standing ovation, and an extremely emotional audience. Think it’s gonna be a big hit. How was the set? Ive seen some photos and im not too sure on it
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 30, 2019 22:58:07 GMT
Set is clever - lots of picture frames. I think it would have felt like it came together a bit more of all the lighting had worked properly - not entirely sure on the projections either, but it all worked!
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Post by latefortheoverture on Aug 30, 2019 22:59:50 GMT
Excited for this one now!
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Post by xanady on Aug 31, 2019 8:36:18 GMT
eugene241,the back row would be fine,you won’t miss a thing.There is a raised platform/mini-balcony but you will still see the actors who stand on it. As people on twitter etc have said,the audience last night were very,very emotional and there were obvs a lot of Falsetto’s fans in there who had been dying to see the show for ages. Hard to pick stand-out performances as they were all brill. ‘Unlikely Lovers’ and ‘Trina’s Song’ had me in tears...beautifully done! Great comic timing/delivery when necessary.The cartwheel was hilarious(you will understand this reference when you see it!) Themes/issues in this show are as relevant as when first written and need addressing and respecting now more than ever.One moment early in second act when audience let out a mighty roar of approval will stay with me forever!Sorry for the teaser! Feel blessed to have seen this show with my daughter and wife. This will sell-out once the reviews hit,I feel.
Merch was lovely-great designs-got the baseball key-ring...terrific programme...show finished at about ten past ten.
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Post by theatre241 on Aug 31, 2019 10:02:11 GMT
Does anyone think TodayTix might be doing rush for this? Not sure whether to wait or try and grab a deal
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