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Post by alece10 on Sept 8, 2019 19:06:47 GMT
Funny how Verdon isn’t so well known here in UK. Or am I wrong? She is known to die hard MT fans of a certain age but dont think known by the general public.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 8, 2019 19:08:41 GMT
Just watching the Chicago episode and Gwen's vocal problems. Could you imagine being in the audience the night they said "the role of Roxie Hart tonight will be played by Liza Minnelli" I would have literally had a heart attack.
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Post by callum on Sept 8, 2019 19:59:54 GMT
Watched MARVIN’S ROOM a few weeks ago - starring Verdon in one of her final roles. It was the first time I’d actually seen the real Gwen on screen - she reminded me so much of Williams’ portrayal of her, obviously showing what a good job Williams did
Interestingly, in the film, she’s made out to be an extremely doddery and unglamorous old lady - even though Gwen was only 70 at the time, the same age that Meryl Streep is now!
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Post by justfran on Sept 8, 2019 21:15:58 GMT
I’ve been watching this on BBC2 and found it ok but quite distracting how it jumps about in the timeline. The onscreen countdowns seem a bit gimmicky. Agree that Michelle Williams is excellent.
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Post by theatreian on Sept 8, 2019 21:19:05 GMT
quite distracting how it jumps about in the timeline. I agree but a great series giving an insight that dispels what I may have thought Bob Fosse was like.
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Post by karloscar on Sept 9, 2019 7:21:45 GMT
Having watched the whole series and the Verdon documentary and lots of YouTube clips, I was very impressed over all by the writing and performances, but it was so dark and bleak that I felt the joy and energy that Verdon exuded as a performer, and the pleasure they found in the creative process was totally missing. Having said that, the scene where Gwen turns on Bob for daring to make Nowadays a duet should win an Emmy for Williams. ( The fact that his instinct was correct, and the show works better when Velma has equal billing with Roxie makes it all the more painful.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 7:56:00 GMT
I’ve been watching this on BBC2 and found it ok but quite distracting how it jumps about in the timeline. The onscreen countdowns seem a bit gimmicky. Agree that Michelle Williams is excellent. I think the jumps in time work, they're supposed to be distracting. In my interpretation the non-linear timeline allows you to see Fosse as he is from the start. With a linear timeline we'd see Bob as a child being taken advantage of, then Gwen helping him out get work, then his success, etc. The audience could then be compelled to feel a sense of plight for Fosse, which is not what the director wants. You're not supposed to feel sorry for him. He's a piece of work. By presenting Fosse as he really was straight away, with jumps in time unsettling the audience, you're prevented from significantly empathising with Fosse at any point.
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