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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 16:41:41 GMT
Do the Americans like Joseph? I dont know why but I always think of it as being a very British type of musical that only the Brits would get. Probably totally wrong. The 90s production only lasted 6 months on Broadway. I'm surprised They didn't take Donny Osmond back for Broadway
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 17:49:07 GMT
Do the Americans like Joseph? I dont know why but I always think of it as being a very British type of musical that only the Brits would get. Probably totally wrong. Certainly at the Palladium I am amazed by how non diverse the audience is - seems to be almost entirely Brits which in the West End is very unusual.
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Post by viserys on Aug 12, 2019 17:57:06 GMT
If investors and theatres are wanting to bring Joseph to Broadway, ALW is not going to say no. He has Phantom and School of Rock at the moment, so Joseph and Cinderella would take it to four shows. I believe he's the only composer to achieve this, last time in 2017. Plus, with the upcoming spree of closures, Joseph is well known and safe, especially for a limited run. Very different from The Woman in White. Erm, School of Rock on Broadway closed a while ago... so it would be three shows.
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Post by Jon on Aug 12, 2019 18:01:22 GMT
I wonder if Joseph on Broadway was a placeholder for Sunset Boulevard hence why it only ran for six months,
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Post by chernjam on Aug 13, 2019 1:08:14 GMT
I wonder if Joseph on Broadway was a placeholder for Sunset Boulevard hence why it only ran for six months, Joseph's grosses on Broadway were respectable for 1994: www.broadwayworld.com/grosses/JOSEPH-AND-THE-AMAZING-TECHNICOLOR-DREAMCOAT That production was the Los Angeles Cast with Michael Damian - who was a U.S. Soap Opera star. I believe he had a 6 month contract and Donny Osmond was starring in the Canadian Production. And yes, the Minskoff Theatre was promised for Sunset back in March of 1994 when they finally pulled the trigger and said Glen was coming to Broadway and not Patti. I'm hazy in recalling (and lazy in googling -) but I believe Edgar Dobie (sp?) was a spokesperson for RUG and made a point of explaining that no, Joseph was not a "flop" on Broadway. And they did have extensive renovations to the theatre for Sunset. Remember, they expected Sunset to be another Phantom that would be running for years and years, so the theatre owners wanted to seriously upgrade the place from it's 70's vibe (I'm remembering the seats being plastic, fold down and there was one massive seating section for the lower and mezzanine sections - not the customary 3 sections with 5 aisles) All of the seating was replaced throughout the theatre, there was a lot of work done on the stage itself. Had Sunset not come to that theatre, they might have tried re-casting Joseph especially with the Summer coming and tourists in the city, kids out of school, etc. While it's definitely more popular in the UK - it does get a lot of play in schools out here. I'd assume it would do good business with some good casting. Whoever pointed out that it might be a safe bet for an empty house is probably correct. I'm just not sure that this same production would fly. The shtick that people have described about Sheridan I can't imagine being well received (even if the NY Times did like it... reading his review, I really wondered if it was jet lag. He's not a huge ALW fan) But then again, what do I know? School of Rock was a Broadway hit and I never went to see it -primarily because of the whole "come see kids playing on broadway" campaign. At over $100 a ticket, no thanks.
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Post by carmella1 on Aug 15, 2019 22:04:24 GMT
I do not think this really would fly long term. Not because its Joseph they have plenty of tours, I just think that the Sheridan type humor would not fly on Broadway. Not to mention Broadway does not have a Sheridan type leading lady (thank goodness).
Maybe bring it back to the Palladium next year for the panto.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 0:35:32 GMT
I do not think this really would fly long term. Not because its Joseph they have plenty of tours, I just think that the Sheridan type humor would not fly on Broadway. Not to mention Broadway does not have a Sheridan type leading lady (thank goodness). Maybe bring it back to the Palladium next year for the panto. If I remember correctly, you were adamant the Palladium run was going to flop, and would have to heavily discount to shift tickets. Fair enough, this version is not for you (have you actually seen it?), but like it or not, lots of people are enjoying it. And enjoying Sheridan in it.
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Post by ABr on Aug 16, 2019 8:20:52 GMT
I'll be seeing it tonight, never seeing another production and only being shown the filmed version earlier on in the year! So I'm really eager to see what they've done with the show, and I'm really looking forward to seeing Sheridan on stage (Managed to miss her in Funny Girl and didn't see Legally Blonde). I'll reserve my judgements about it going to Broadway until I've seen it so I can give an informed opinion on it We are up in the Grand Circle, will we miss much being up that high and slightly to the side?
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Post by ABr on Aug 16, 2019 9:36:20 GMT
We are up in the Grand Circle, will we miss much being up that high and slightly to the side? Height, not at all. The Palladium is incredibly intimate. I've seen stand-up comedy from row D up there and still felt very close. As the stage is wider and further back than usual, you won't miss anything at the sides either. Thats great to hear, thanks TheatreMonkey! The last thing I saw at the Palladium was Wizard of Oz, and though we were high up, we were pretty central, so had no complaints, but that was a LONG time ago haha!
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Post by carmella1 on Aug 17, 2019 0:32:59 GMT
I do not think this really would fly long term. Not because its Joseph they have plenty of tours, I just think that the Sheridan type humor would not fly on Broadway. Not to mention Broadway does not have a Sheridan type leading lady (thank goodness). Maybe bring it back to the Palladium next year for the panto. If I remember correctly, you were adamant the Palladium run was going to flop, and would have to heavily discount to shift tickets. Fair enough, this version is not for you (have you actually seen it?), but like it or not, lots of people are enjoying it. And enjoying Sheridan in it. As far as the reception goes you are right I thought it would flop. I am thoroughly surprised by its popularity. No I have no intention of seeing it.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 17, 2019 10:40:03 GMT
As Joseph is coming to the end of its run I think it is safe to say that this production has been a huge success. I know many people didn't like the production or the star but there is no avoiding the fact that this, along with the recent pantos, has got to be one of the biggest box office successes for the Palladium in recent years. There has been no discounting apart from the weekly lottery (less said about that the better) and its a big old theatre to fill. So well done Joseph I say!
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Post by LaLuPone on Aug 18, 2019 10:51:14 GMT
Wow so this is now completely sold out for its last two weeks besides 1-2 tickets at the occasional performance for £150! I’m suddenly very happy with my central row s stalls seat at £45 for the last Wednesday!
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Post by denise on Aug 18, 2019 11:10:32 GMT
The whole run has been at 100% capacity - which is insane for a theatre that holds that many people - GOGOGOJO!
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Post by hulmeman on Aug 18, 2019 11:52:34 GMT
I actually ventured to London yesterday to see Joseph with a friend (I was the responsible adult!!). Not my number one choice of show, but having sat through it so many times, there are so many innovations in this production to make it enjoyable. Of course "Joseph" is bomb proof and any criticism is pointless with an engaging Joseph, the unstoppable Sheridan Smith and the heart throb that is Jason Donavan (kudos to him for meeting his fans at the stage door). It's got colour and energy and will be the benchmark for future productions. If I do have a criticism I can get away with, it is the sound design which sounds like it was done by Helen Keller.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 12:05:35 GMT
As Joseph is coming to the end of its run I think it is safe to say that this production has been a huge success. I know many people didn't like the production or the star but there is no avoiding the fact that this, along with the recent pantos, has got to be one of the biggest box office successes for the Palladium in recent years. There has been no discounting apart from the weekly lottery (less said about that the better) and its a big old theatre to fill. So well done Joseph I say! 100% agree! My reservations about this production remain (though I have loved it enough to see it 8 times in total lol) but there is no doubt it has been an absolutely massive success - probably the most commercially successful new show this year. Interested to see which rumours about it's return will be true (return to Palladium after the panto, return next Summer or open ended in another theatre). Re casting, assuming 100% MT is sadly not an option, I am hoping for pop star Joseph and MT knock-the-vocals-out-of-the-park Narrator. And anyone but our Jase as Pharaoh lol.
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Post by mjr on Aug 18, 2019 22:11:17 GMT
Safe to say this will be returning next summer then....
Maybe the Lord will be brave enough to try and get the tired Kenwright production off of the road (it deserves a lifetime achievement award) and get this new production out.
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Post by jennapatchell on Aug 24, 2019 21:24:38 GMT
Saw this tonight. Enjoyed it far more than expected and actually liked Jason for once (never liked him in ANYTHING before). Sheridan did get a bit much at times
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Post by danb on Aug 24, 2019 21:42:51 GMT
Saw this tonight. Enjoyed it far more than expected and actually liked Jason for once (never liked him in ANYTHING before). Sheridan did get a bit much at times [br. Me too. Jason surprised me, he was very energetic but seemed to be playing Frank’n’Furter. The kids were good, Jac sang well (would have loved to see his Jack Kelly) but I really couldn’t get on with SS. But mostly it was the production. Who was the narrator? Why was she knocking about with them kids? It just needed framing somehow and for Linzi to appear out of that trapdoor just once.
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Post by TheatreTwittic on Aug 24, 2019 22:50:28 GMT
I saw the matinee today and walked away very happy.
I have to admit some of the original soundtracks bored me, but this production put an extra sparkle into even those songs. The nod to creative teachers inspiring children works so well and I did like the hints of modern technology used throughout.
I'm still not sold on Donovan but he attracts large ticket sales and he wasn't as bad as the BGT performance he gave.
The orchestrations are beautiful and I enjoyed how they and their MD got involved at the end from the confines of the pit.
One thing I did spot is how easy it would be to tour the production, I wouldn't be surprised if Harrison Tours the production. He'll probably do what he did with Annie, bring it back for a limited run and then venture out on a UK tour.
It's time the BK production was laid to rest and with even blood brother's touring to much smaller venues next year it does seem he's cutting back his operations.
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Post by shady23 on Aug 25, 2019 6:05:22 GMT
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Post by danb on Aug 25, 2019 7:55:01 GMT
Wasn’t a lot wrong with it last night...nothing that sounded like laryngitis anyway.
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Post by jennapatchell on Aug 25, 2019 10:05:04 GMT
Wasn’t a lot wrong with it last night...nothing that sounded like laryngitis anyway. Agreed. Can't remember when, but there was one note she was about to sing in a big finale number but then didn't sing it and laughed instead
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Post by danb on Aug 25, 2019 10:09:37 GMT
Wasn’t a lot wrong with it last night...nothing that sounded like laryngitis anyway. Agreed. Can't remember when, but there was one note she was about to sing in a big finale number but then didn't sing it and laughed instead You only noticed one dodged note? 😂 Seriously though, I was surprised to be slightly impressed by her ‘Pharoahs Story’. It was all in the kids vocals & volume, but as a whole it did the trick. Whoever booked her an extra gig at the end of a run? Bonkers.
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Post by lonlad on Aug 25, 2019 10:17:20 GMT
Nothing that a few weeks in the sun somewhere hot won't put right .....
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Post by jennapatchell on Aug 25, 2019 10:40:56 GMT
Agreed. Can't remember when, but there was one note she was about to sing in a big finale number but then didn't sing it and laughed instead You only noticed one dodged note? 😂 Seriously though, I was surprised to be slightly impressed by her ‘Pharoahs Story’. It was all in the kids vocals & volume, but as a whole it did the trick. Whoever booked her an extra gig at the end of a run? Bonkers. I deffo noticed some dodgy notes, but this was one where she was about to sing the note and then suddenly stopped before reaching it.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 25, 2019 13:31:31 GMT
This is returning to the Palladium next year.. about to be announced.
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Post by Rory on Aug 25, 2019 13:33:26 GMT
This is returning to the Palladium next year.. about to be announced. Thought it might. It's been a big hit for them.
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Post by andrew on Aug 25, 2019 13:35:58 GMT
Nothing that a few weeks in the sun somewhere hot won't put right ..... I think that this comment is extremely insensitive, especially in a forum about musicals. Vocal damage is an very serious thing that most people who do not sing professionally cannot really understand. It could take you 5 minutes to educate yourself about it rather than write something like that.
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Post by danb on Aug 25, 2019 14:41:22 GMT
This is returning to the Palladium next year.. about to be announced. Thought it might. It's been a big hit for them. Although I didn’t love it, it was clear that most everyone else did. Standing O before it had even finished. Very mixed audience. If it gets people to the theatre it’s all good. (Apart from the very unusual family in front of us who's two children were bored stiff fidgeting and talking the whole way through whilst M&D lapped it up, totally ignoring them whilst all around them suffered grrrr)
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Post by carmella1 on Aug 25, 2019 17:21:41 GMT
With this same cast? Since I gather this production has been tailored for Sheridan would she return?
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