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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 17:23:36 GMT
Ditto! Can’t wait, I have a feeling this is gonna be sensational. Likewise JCS at Barbican.
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Post by scarpia on Jan 12, 2019 19:24:00 GMT
There's not much news on this. Any rumours re casting?
I'm really keen to see this as this a favourite show of mine and I avoided the awful Kenwright tat that they shoved in as filler at the Dominion and Phoenix. So last time i saw this in London was the superb revival at the Adelphi, which had too short a run. Jamie Lloyd was assistant director on that, so interested to see his take on it.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 12, 2019 19:51:43 GMT
I heard Patti has taken a liking to London....
🙌🏻
#hearditherefirst #moveoverbarnaby
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 22:13:57 GMT
I heard Patti has taken a liking to London.... 🙌🏻 #hearditherefirst #moveoverbarnaby Would love it if this were true. I hear they were considering very diverse casting for all the leads, to make it different from any other production. Curious if this is still the case.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 13, 2019 14:38:41 GMT
Alexandra Burke is playing Eva
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Post by happytobehere on Jan 13, 2019 14:43:26 GMT
That is certainly a...choice.
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Post by Being Alive on Jan 13, 2019 14:43:31 GMT
Um, she's doing WHAT now?!
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Post by LaLuPone on Jan 13, 2019 14:54:48 GMT
Nice try but she’s still in The Bodyguard tour at that point according to the website!
Unless she’s able to pull out...
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 13, 2019 15:28:54 GMT
Hahahahahaha I was joking.
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Post by ali973 on Jan 17, 2019 17:23:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 17:26:13 GMT
If I recall correctly, they are after a specifically Asian Juan Peron as well
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Post by indis on Jan 17, 2019 17:39:09 GMT
cannot open the link above what does it say?
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Post by poster J on Jan 17, 2019 17:41:49 GMT
Why not? It's a fictionalised account, not an exact retelling of someone's life. The only thing that matters is talent! I can't believe we might be about to have essentially the same debate in multiple threads at the same time...
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Post by ali973 on Jan 17, 2019 17:46:55 GMT
I'm pro-color blind casting. But you don't specifically seek out a certain race when the story does not call for it. If the actress happens to be black - so be it, and by all means. But to shut out other POC's and any other race under the sun when it's completely uncalled for, is just not solving the problem.
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Post by indis on Jan 17, 2019 17:53:01 GMT
why not cast the one who sings the best at the audition?
where are the people that scream racism when they posted they only search for white actresses? all silent? why is the outrage not as big as the other way round, it is discrimination
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Post by fiyero on Jan 17, 2019 17:53:29 GMT
Why not? It's a fictionalised account, not an exact retelling of someone's life. The only thing that matters is talent! I can't believe we might be about to have essentially the same debate in multiple threads at the same time... There's a difference between casting a black actress as she is the best for the part and saying it can only go to a black actress. Complicated further as the role is portraying a white woman (though that switch seems to work for Hamilton)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 17:56:30 GMT
why not cast the one who sings the best at the audition? where are the people that scream racism when they posted they only search for white actresses? all silent? why is the outrage not as big as the other way round, it is discrimination I'm kinda with you, in the sense of ultimately it should be the best person for the job, regardless of other factors.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 18:05:52 GMT
Alexandra Burke is playing Eva Im pretty sure @ryan will sue?
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Post by ali973 on Jan 17, 2019 18:06:45 GMT
why not cast the one who sings the best at the audition? where are the people that scream racism when they posted they only search for white actresses? all silent? why is the outrage not as big as the other way round, it is discrimination I am the people that scream racism and I am not silent. I don't think anyone who has been an advocate for color blind/color conscious casting had THIS in mind.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 17, 2019 20:24:29 GMT
They wanted Cynthia Erivo for it.
I kind of think it’s ironic that there’s uproar when they cast a white actor as Maria in West Side Story and yet when they are casting a real life person (who was white).. they state they want someone black..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 20:26:25 GMT
They wanted Cynthia Erivo for it. I kind of think it’s ironic that there’s uproar when they cast a white actor as Maria in West Side Story and yet when they are casting a real life person (who was white).. they state they want someone black.. There's no way Cynthia would do it. We won't see her over here again for a long time, I guarantee.
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Post by indis on Jan 17, 2019 20:30:02 GMT
thats what makes me angry the most - somehow its ok to be racist in one direction, but imagine the uproar if they stated that they only want white actresses at the audition, that is so ... (my english word for it fails me)
how about only looking for blonde white women for the next Tina cast change?
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Post by beatrice on Jan 17, 2019 20:53:12 GMT
I'm pro-color blind casting. But you don't specifically seek out a certain race when the story does not call for it. If the actress happens to be black - so be it, and by all means. But to shut out other POC's and any other race under the sun when it's completely uncalled for, is just not solving the problem. But....isn't this EXACTLY what Hamilton did?? I know they had a good reason, story-telling-wise, and it adds a whole lot of dimensions to the story, but we don't know that that's not the case now?
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Post by beatrice on Jan 17, 2019 20:57:30 GMT
Okay so let me elaborate a little.
I think, in some cases, race is an important part of telling the story.
In Hamilton, that means that they're using race to enforce the idea that immigrants built the USA and so on and so forth (there are other people who can explain this better than me). In West Side Story, the clash of cultures is a big part of what drives the plot line. Therefore, a white Maria makes no sense. In Wicked, the only person who's color matters is Elphaba's, so go ahead and cast whoever (as long as they can sing the part).
Now, I don't KNOW which of these categories Evita falls in, because I haven't actually listened to most of the score (I know, I know...). But before I know, I'm not throwing any rocks. If it's part of their storytelling vision, by all means. If it's "just because" - cast whoever sings the part the best.
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Post by LaLuPone on Jan 17, 2019 21:02:29 GMT
I'm pro-color blind casting. But you don't specifically seek out a certain race when the story does not call for it. If the actress happens to be black - so be it, and by all means. But to shut out other POC's and any other race under the sun when it's completely uncalled for, is just not solving the problem. But....isn't this EXACTLY what Hamilton did?? I know they had a good reason, story-telling-wise, and it adds a whole lot of dimensions to the story, but we don't know that that's not the case now? As far as I know any ethnicity (besides white) can play the leads in Hamilton. Angelica could be black or asian or hispanic or so on for example. Just not white. So it’s not the same as just saying “we are looking for a black actress”.
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Post by beatrice on Jan 17, 2019 21:04:57 GMT
That's very true, LaLuPone! That's my bad for reading super fast on my phone.
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Post by No. on Jan 17, 2019 21:23:00 GMT
I can understand looking for a poc specifically. That’s exactly what Hamilton does and it increases diversity. But it seems that some people associate the term ‘people of colour’ with black people only when there’s much more to it than that.
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Post by jgblunners on Jan 17, 2019 23:10:22 GMT
It would seem that lazy reporting is the culprit here:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 23:16:58 GMT
Not a comment on this exact issue, but it's reminded me that when I was watching Sylvia at the Old Vic, I had a sudden moment when something in my head clicked and I thought Beverley Knight would make an EPIC Eva Peron. She'd sing and act the hell out of it. Spent most of the rest of the show trying to recall if any non white people have played Eva (and if so what colour was the iconic bun wig)?
Anyway, cast her I say.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 23:20:27 GMT
It would seem that lazy reporting is the culprit here: Jamie Lloyd might be interested in auditioning a wide range of actresses, but the original casting call wasn't exactly worded that way^^
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