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Post by foxa on May 17, 2016 13:18:17 GMT
This isn't going to be a very helpful comment as he's leaving the show soon and has been off for at least one performance, but I unexpectedly loved Richard Kind in this. I've always thought he was funny on TV, but didn't see him as Nathan Detroit. He changed my mind. He just naturally has 'funny bones,' so gets every bit of humour out of the role. Plus he seemed to be hugely enjoying himself. It was the first time I'd seen a Nathan Detroit who really adored Adelaide's show. He seemed amused and delighted throughout and he and Samantha Spiro were fantastic doing 'Sue Me.' There was a slight sense of the rest of the cast looking after him a bit in some of the dance numbers (lifting him onto furniture, handing him things) but somehow that added to the enjoyment too.
Trivia note: George Clooney is a good friend of Richard Kind's and was best man at his wedding.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 19:23:42 GMT
To be honest, I'm quite surprised this isn't doing well. It's a great revival and the Phoenix isn't a huge theatre
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Post by Jon on May 18, 2016 19:27:48 GMT
To be honest, I'm quite surprised this isn't doing well. It's a great revival and the Phoenix isn't a huge theatre It's a show that often revived and TBH as much as I like Richard Kind and Samantha Spiro, they're not draws to the general public as much as Sophie Thompson and David Haig.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 19:30:40 GMT
To be honest, I'm quite surprised this isn't doing well. It's a great revival and the Phoenix isn't a huge theatre It's a show that often revived and TBH as much as I like Richard Kind and Samantha Spiro, they're not draws to the general public as much as Sophie Thompson and David Haig. Yes I do agree with the casting. It's nice to see it revived again, it's a good filler for the Phoenix too before a new show goes there at the end of the year
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 18, 2016 19:39:38 GMT
To be honest, I'm quite surprised this isn't doing well. It's a great revival and the Phoenix isn't a huge theatre It's a show that often revived and TBH as much as I like Richard Kind and Samantha Spiro, they're not draws to the general public as much as Sophie Thompson and David Haig. David Haig and Sophie Thompson are draws? Would you mind telling me where they are known from? I would've thought Richard Kind would be a draw, but perhaps he is better known in the States.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 19:47:15 GMT
It's a show that often revived and TBH as much as I like Richard Kind and Samantha Spiro, they're not draws to the general public as much as Sophie Thompson and David Haig. David Haig and Sophie Thompson are draws? Would you mind telling me where they are known from? I would've thought Richard Kind would be a draw, but perhaps he is better known in the States. Yes I think Richard is better known in the States. David Haig and Sophie Thompson are both very well known for their roles as a married couple in Four Weddings and a Funeral! Sophie Thompson has also been in other films and TV shows like Eastenders.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 19:50:52 GMT
David haig is pretty well known, Sophie Thompson I'm not so sure...especially on her name alone. She's one of those actresses that pops up in stuff and people recognise her face but I wouldn't say they really know who she is.
Richard kind I didn't know on his name alone, then I saw his face and realised I'm a fan of his.
Name recognition and face recognition aren't always the same thing
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 18, 2016 19:54:40 GMT
I saw the show at the Savoy and it was good, but not great. Would've given it 4 stars. Went to see it again for Richard Kind (BING BONG!!!!!!!) and absolutely loved the show. In my opinion, the new cast really improved the show. Definite 5 star the second time, loved every second of it!
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Post by callum on May 18, 2016 19:55:41 GMT
Saw this on Sunday afternoon. Felt bad for Samantha Spiro, the best thing an otherwise laboured production. SDYRTB was the only time it ever achieved lift-off for me. Sat in second row of the stalls for only £17 - I guess business isn't going that well! Richard Kind was off and was obviously very disappointed as he was high on the list of the reasons why I wanted to go. Understudy was perfectly competent. The fella who played the Chicago gangster (forgot his name, apologies) was dreadful! Was as if some bloke had just been plucked from the street. Hardly knew his lines and when he did so they were delivered in such a stiff and stunted way. I guess there was some shuffling about between the cast. Although it's not this production's fault I just found the book incredibly disparate and unengaging - heresy I know! Wouldn't rush back to see this version or another production.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 18, 2016 20:00:45 GMT
The fella who played the Chicago gangster (forgot his name, apologies) was dreadful! Was as if some bloke had just been plucked from the street. Hardly knew his lines and when he did so they were delivered in such a stiff and stunted way. I guess there was some shuffling about between the cast. Was that the role of Big Jule? Can't remember who the Chicago gangster was.
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Post by callum on May 18, 2016 20:06:04 GMT
The fella who played the Chicago gangster (forgot his name, apologies) was dreadful! Was as if some bloke had just been plucked from the street. Hardly knew his lines and when he did so they were delivered in such a stiff and stunted way. I guess there was some shuffling about between the cast. Was that the role of Big Jule? Can't remember who the Chicago gangster was. Yes that's it! He was played by a huge black guy but then at the Oliviers he was being played by a white actor so obviously different arrangement to then. I'd most definitely assume he was an understudy. I'm not saying this to be bitchy but he was just excruciating! Like a GCSE Drama performance.
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Post by shady23 on May 18, 2016 21:10:13 GMT
Sounds like you saw Cameron Johnson who plays the role in the UK Tour. He was on loan at the weekend with a few others.
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Post by shady23 on May 18, 2016 21:13:49 GMT
Also, for anyone interested, the London cast sang Sit Down You're Rocking the Boat on that ITV Palladium programme tonight.
Fast forward to twenty minutes in and save yourself from hearing Bradley Walsh's swing opener. My ears have not yet recovered.
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Post by theinvisiblegirl on May 24, 2016 5:57:26 GMT
Rebel Wilson has just announced on Twitter that she's playing Miss Adelaide from 28 June to 21 August. I love her in the comedies she's done but not sure how I feel about this!
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Post by Ade on May 24, 2016 6:08:55 GMT
I'm not sure how I feel about it either but I absolutely have to see it to find out how it goes down!
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Post by Jon on May 24, 2016 6:23:08 GMT
Rebel can sing so I think it could work, a very different take on Miss Adelaide that's for sure
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Post by Mark on May 24, 2016 6:26:52 GMT
Um.... What ?!?!?!
This casting is odd, but GENIUS
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 6:32:46 GMT
Completely unexpected but I actually think she could do a good job with this and it will definitely sell tickets.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 6:51:33 GMT
Rebel Wilson has just announced on Twitter that she's playing Miss Adelaide from 28 June to 21 August. I love her in the comedies she's done but not sure how I feel about this! No! That's amazing! Is this her west end debut?
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 24, 2016 6:57:50 GMT
If she can pull this off then I'll be mightily impressed! Totally bizarre casting!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 6:58:54 GMT
Brilliant, off-the-wall casting!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 7:41:58 GMT
I wonder if she'll do more musical theatre after that?
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Post by freckles on May 24, 2016 8:02:07 GMT
She's already doing Little Mermaid at the Hollywood Bowl (Ursula). Maybe this will lead to more. Very interesting casting, I'm quite excited.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 8:14:07 GMT
Wowsers in my trousers this is the most exciting news in a long time! not a fan of GnD but RW is genius and I would walk over raw sewage to see her,in something! HAPPY TUESDAY!!
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Post by Scots UK Theatre on May 24, 2016 8:19:22 GMT
Really not a fan of Guys & Dolls, but this casting makes me want to see it. Could be crafty casting by the producers. Should also bring in a younger audience.
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Post by Anniek on May 24, 2016 9:06:24 GMT
Bizarre, but maybe brilliant. First I was shocked, but now, when I let go of the picture of Miss Adelaide I have in mind, it could work out.
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Post by freckles on May 24, 2016 9:26:07 GMT
I wonder who's going to be her Nathan?
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Post by Being Alive on May 24, 2016 9:28:54 GMT
Her Nathan is Nigel Lindsey. This is bonkers casting, but as others have said, once I remove Sophie Thompson and Sam Spiro from my mind this is perfectly plausible!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 9:31:56 GMT
Her Nathan is Nigel Lindsey. This is bonkers casting, but as others have said, once I remove Sophie Thompson and Sam Spiro from my mind this is perfectly plausible! No, Nigel finishes at the same time as Samantha Spiro. Richard Kind leaves at the end of this week. I imagine the next Nathan will be younger?
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Post by alece10 on May 24, 2016 9:36:32 GMT
Mad casting but as others have said this could work. I got the feeling bookings were flagging a bit so this will give sales a boost plus it will bring in a much younger audience. Not sure what they will think of the show though as its certainly more of a traditional musical. I really had no idea who she was and it was only when she appeared on some award ceremony recently and I thought she was very funny that brought her to my attention. Might need another visit to see the show for me.
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