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Post by theatremadness on Feb 19, 2018 19:10:35 GMT
Has The Music Man ever been revived professionally in the UK? It seems to be done all the time in the US, but have never heard of it being done here. Chichester did it in 2008 with Brian Conley as Harold Hill and Scarlett Strallen as Marian. Cast also had Katy Secombe, Jenny Galloway, Zizi Strallen and Sophie Louise Dann. It was really glorious - I presume primed for a transfer but never happened for some reason! Though I don't speak with any knowledge about that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 19:16:09 GMT
Thanks theatremadness. I didn't know about that. Great cast though.
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Post by paplazaroo on Feb 19, 2018 20:12:09 GMT
I’d love to see The Boy From Oz. Also while we’re on the subject of Jackman surely we’re due a another lavish Oklahoma? Annnd Brigadoon, Mack and Mabel, return to the forbidden planet. I agree someone should do Lord of the rings again but strip it back to actor muso Mumford and sons/once vibes
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 20:20:49 GMT
Starlight Express Whistle Down The Wind The Beautiful Game Moby Dick Martin Guerre Children of Eden Closer To Heaven
Sadly can't really see any of them happening any time soon, at least not as a major revival. Though of course The Union have had a crack at three of them!
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Post by daisy24601 on Feb 19, 2018 20:25:39 GMT
Memphis and She Loves Me and many older ones which I never got the chance to see due to my youth...
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Post by Raven on Feb 19, 2018 20:35:35 GMT
Starlight Express Memphis We Will Rock You Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
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Post by alece10 on Feb 19, 2018 20:45:30 GMT
Time for the return of Forbidden Broadway
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Post by daisy24601 on Feb 19, 2018 20:48:14 GMT
How could I forget Sweeney Todd also!
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Post by martin1965 on Feb 19, 2018 21:12:49 GMT
Has The Music Man ever been revived professionally in the UK? It seems to be done all the time in the US, but have never heard of it being done here. Chichester did it in 2008 with Brian Conley as Harold Hill and Scarlett Strallen as Marian. Cast also had Katy Secombe, Jenny Galloway, Zizi Strallen and Sophie Louise Dann. It was really glorious - I presume primed for a transfer but never happened for some reason! Though I don't speak with any knowledge about that. It was def supposed to tour but in the end of course didnt, not sure why.
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Post by tonyloco on Feb 20, 2018 0:17:32 GMT
Tony Yes and Yes. Canyou help me out? I long ago lost a tape containing a song that I believe came from Tenderloin. The lyrics made me smile and can you confirm they were something like? "he acted celestial, when I wanted bestial..." (Google not helpnig so I maybe barking in the wrong forrest?) Would also love to see their Fiorella, at one time Radio 2 played "A Little Tin Box" once a week. My annual plea for Pal Joey or any Rogers and HART musical. Mr Snow, I am absolutely certain that that line does not occur in the original cast album of 'Tenderloin'. Actually, it sounds as if it might have been written by Sondheim, a la 'I never do anything twice'. Despite what Wiki says, 'Fiorello' was done in London at the Piccadilly Theatre in the early 1960s and I remember enjoying it, especially 'A Little Tin Box' which John Wilson included so brilliantly in one of his Albert Hall concerts. No reason why 'Fiorello' couldn't be revived by one of the small London theatres like the Menier. The last London production of 'Pal Joey' in 1980 with Dennis Lawson and Sian Philips was superb and really did justice to this unusual show. A well cast revival could be very successful. I seem to remember a great revival of 'The Boys from Syracuse' at Drury Lane in 1963 with a very starry cast and I think it would be well worth reviving. In fact if the National thought 'A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum' worth mounting a few years ago (as indeed it was) that they should certainly do 'The Boys from Syracuse'. Just to widen this discussion a bit, I an surprised to see suggestions for a revival of 'She Loves Me' when we have been awash with productions of this in recent years. Similarly, I would have thought we have seen enough (unsuccessful) attempts to get 'Mack and Mabel' to work, including Chichester with Michael Ball, to realise that despite its great story and terrific score, the second act fails to gel and it just isn't viable as a stage musical. I did in fact enjoy the pared down version with Janie Dee and David Soul but there are many other shows that have been far more neglected and deserve reviving ahead of 'Mack and Mabel'. Oh, by the way, I don't suppose it will happen, but I would love to see 'Annie Get Your Gun' staged exactly as it was originally written with its original script and all the offensive material about native Americans intact, especially Annie's song 'I'm an Indian Too'. Sorry, but I am an unreconstructed lover of old musicals even when they are seriously non-PC. And I see somebody asking to see 'The Desert Song' but that would never be acceptable in these days of female empowerment, unless perhaps the Red Shadow was played by a woman! OK, I guess I had better call a taxi!
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Post by romeo94 on Feb 20, 2018 0:45:57 GMT
Sunday in the Park with George and A Little Night Music
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Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2018 6:13:24 GMT
I’ve saw the 2011 Broadway production but I’d like to see How fo Suceed in Business Without Really Trying done at The Open Air or Chichester
Brigadoon, Camelot and By Jeeves are ones I’d like to see.
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Post by macksennett on Feb 20, 2018 7:06:47 GMT
Would love to see a revival of Jerry Herman's Mame.
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Post by martin1965 on Feb 20, 2018 7:11:44 GMT
I’ve saw the 2011 Broadway production but I’d like to see How fo Suceed in Business Without Really Trying done at The Open Air or Chichester Brigadoon, Camelot and By Jeeves are ones I’d like to see. How to succeed was done at Chichester in 2005, i saw a good if small scale revival of it at Wiltons Hall last year.
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Post by clair on Feb 20, 2018 8:11:57 GMT
Mame, Man of La Mancha, The Boy Friend, Love Never Dies, Brigadoon and Jack the Ripper
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 9:58:49 GMT
RE: Memphis, as much as I'd like to see it again, I think its too soon. Maybe a tour of the original rather than a WE Revival.
For those wishing for a Starlight Express revival, surely this must be on the cards soon giving the workshopping late last year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 10:29:09 GMT
I'm going to keep demanding an Open Air Theatre production of The Secret Garden until Tim Sheader finally does the right thing and gets it done.
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Post by alece10 on Feb 20, 2018 11:35:01 GMT
Memphis and She Loves Me and many older ones which I never got the chance to see due to my youth... She Love Me was revived last year at the Menier
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Post by tonyloco on Feb 20, 2018 12:11:33 GMT
I am finding this thread extremely interesting and I have now thought up a few more mainly obscure old shows I would love to see staged although they may not all work in this day and age:
The hit show of 1898: 'The Belle of New York' – a sort of early version of 'Guys and Dolls' with a wonderful score and a book that would need some editing. The Fred Astaire movie had nothing to do with the stage show apart from the title and the title song.
Edwardian musicals by Monckton, Talbot, Jones, etc: 'Our Miss Gibbs', 'The Country Girl', 'The Arcadians', 'The Geisha', etc, for their delightful tuneful songs and period charm. The Finborough successfully did 'Our Miss Gibbs' in 2006 in a very pared down version and the shows used to be done often by amateur companies.
Shows by George M. Cohan especially 'Little Johnny Jones' and 'Little Nelly Kelly'. A taste of these can be had in the James Cagney movie 'Yankee Doodle Dandy'.
Shows by Jerome Kern, especially 'Sally' and 'Sunny'
Shows, mainly in the form of operettas, by Victor Herbert, especially 'Naughty Marietta' and 'The Red Mill'
Big stage spectaculars: 'Chu Chin Chow', 'Cavalcade', 'Kismet', 'The Desert Song', 'The Vagabond King', 'Man of Lamancha', 'The Maid of the Mountains', 'Rio Rita', 'White Horse Inn', all with lavish sets and full orchestra and chorus.
And lots of others...!
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 20, 2018 12:15:33 GMT
At the Open Air Iolanthe Secret Garden Sunday Night Music
At Wilton’s Follies Pal Joey Candide Spider Woman Carmen Jones
Bet you can’t guess what two of my favourite venues are?!
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Post by Mr Snow on Feb 20, 2018 12:32:58 GMT
I am finding this thread extremely interesting and I have now thought up a few more mainly obscure old shows I would love to see staged although they may not all work in this day and age: Edwardian musicals by Monckton, Talbot, Jones, etc: 'Our Miss Gibbs', 'The Country Girl', 'The Arcadians', 'The Geisha', etc, for their delightful tuneful songs and period charm. The Finborough successfully did 'Our Miss Gibbs' in 2006 in a very pared down version and the shows used to be done often by amateur companies. S Sometimes wishes do come true... www.wiltons.org.uk/whatson/445-the-arcadians
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Post by Stephen on Feb 20, 2018 12:34:24 GMT
Cabaret at the Donmar. Firstly with Alan Cumming then with some other great actors going in for limited time!
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Post by tonyloco on Feb 20, 2018 12:49:18 GMT
Oh joy, oh rapture unforeseen! (wrong show, but it will do!) Thanks, Mr Snow.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 20, 2018 13:06:10 GMT
In all honesty, I would love to see a return of the Lost Musicals series - a place to discover lost gems that would never get a revival otherwise.
I don't particularly have a wish list - other than perhaps more votes for Camelot and Brigadoon - both packed with wonderful music and long overdue for major professional productions.
There are so many great scores out there that deserve a hearing - most of them have pretty poor books - and so perhaps a series of concerts would be the way to go. With a bit of revision, some of them may go on to commercial success.
Who would have thought back in the 80s that a revised version of Me and My Girl would have gone on to huge success? There are many shows from the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s that won't get a chance of a restaging unless someone with vision takes a punt.
Concert versions don't have the glitz and glamour of a full production - but you can probably attract better singers than you could afford for a run in a small venue and so the music would be well served.
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Post by tonyloco on Feb 20, 2018 13:43:18 GMT
In all honesty, I would love to see a return of the Lost Musicals series - a place to discover lost gems that would never get a revival otherwise. Yes, yes, and yes again! Ian Marshall Fisher had a genius for brilliant casting and many of his Lost Musicals, despite the cast sitting in a row wearing evening clothes and reading from scripts in their hand (with just a piano to accompany them) brought vividly to life some fantastic shows, particularly the Cole Porter and Kurt Weill musicals that they did. They were the highlight of my theatre-going year!
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Post by TallPaul on Feb 20, 2018 13:45:44 GMT
Has The Music Man ever been revived professionally in the UK? There was also a production in Regent's Park in 1995 with Brian Cox and Liz Robertson. I went to a matinee. By 'eck it were hot!!!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 20, 2018 13:55:43 GMT
In all honesty, I would love to see a return of the Lost Musicals series - a place to discover lost gems that would never get a revival otherwise. Yes, yes, and yes again! Ian Marshall Fisher had a genius for brilliant casting and many of his Lost Musicals, despite the cast sitting in a row wearing evening clothes and reading from scripts in their hand (with just a piano to accompany them) brought vividly to life some fantastic shows, particularly the Cole Porter and Kurt Weill musicals that they did. They were the highlight of my theatre-going year! If only we could have a National Musical Theatre Company that could rediscover these shows. That would be some ACE funding I could get behind!
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Post by JJShaw on Feb 20, 2018 14:33:17 GMT
Yes, yes, and yes again! Ian Marshall Fisher had a genius for brilliant casting and many of his Lost Musicals, despite the cast sitting in a row wearing evening clothes and reading from scripts in their hand (with just a piano to accompany them) brought vividly to life some fantastic shows, particularly the Cole Porter and Kurt Weill musicals that they did. They were the highlight of my theatre-going year! If only we could have a National Musical Theatre Company that could rediscover these shows. That would be some ACE funding I could get behind! I believe thats a similar akin to the Encores! they do in NYC and I would also be up for more productions like this to give lesser known knows a god needed airing out!
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Post by Mr Snow on Feb 20, 2018 15:13:57 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_MusicalsFor reasons I can barely understand today, I seem to have put a Baby, Mortgage and building a company ahead of seeing more of these. Also without the internet it was hard to keep up with events and I seem to have lost contact after the move from the Barbican. I saw nothing after On a Clear Day, which I recall had Captain Peacock in the Audience. At the time there seemed little else being done to revive these shows. Today anyone from the Donmar to the Southwark Playhouse might give them a go. Hats off to Ian Marshall Fisher.
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Post by tonyloco on Feb 20, 2018 16:23:04 GMT
I reckon I must have seen more than half of those shows and, with the odd exception, they were outstandingly successful. For me the most memorable were probably Jubilee, Love Life, The New Yorkers, Around the World and all the Cole Porter/Ethel Merman shows with the wonderful Louise Gold. But, as you say Mr Snow, there are now a number of venues taking a chance with old or neglected shows like the recent Ballroom at Waterloo East and The Frogs at Jermyn Street, so we may yet get to see some of our 'wish list' shows somewhere or other.
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