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Post by vdcni on Nov 15, 2017 17:35:02 GMT
Not until next November but starring Tom Burke which should draw a crowd.
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Post by showgirl on Nov 16, 2017 5:38:40 GMT
Only if you've heard of the above person, which I either haven't, or have forgotten I have. The play itself certainly doesn't appeal but there are others in the season of more interest to me and it would be great if any of the productions attracted more support for the Rose.
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Post by martin1965 on Nov 16, 2017 7:06:07 GMT
The star part is in fact the King. Derek Jacobi and John Woodvine have played it recently. Might be a hard sell, Schiller is hardly a household name!
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Post by Jan on Nov 16, 2017 7:24:55 GMT
Not until next November but starring Tom Burke which should draw a crowd. Never heard of him. Kingston are very hopeful asking us to book a year in advance for this attraction, booking on the day will be possible. I will look at reviews for its run in Exeter before committing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 8:04:20 GMT
Even if you set aside his tv work (cormoran strik, musketeers) im surprised regular theatre goers on here dont know him from his theatre work
Its also at the nuffield in Southampton next year
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Post by vdcni on Nov 16, 2017 8:22:50 GMT
Only if you've heard of the above person, which I either haven't, or have forgotten I have. The play itself certainly doesn't appeal but there are others in the season of more interest to me and it would be great if any of the productions attracted more support for the Rose. Well obviously only if you've heard of him but three high profile BBC drama roles in the last 4 years should give him enough name recognition to bring people into the Rose. I'd be tempted having missed the last West End production but I thought he was the weakest part of The Deep Blue Sea at the National last year.
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Post by showgirl on Nov 16, 2017 8:28:08 GMT
I'm still wondering if I've ever seen this Tom Burke chap in anything (I don't watch tv and haven't seen The Deep Blue Sea" since the CFT version a year or two back); I must do some research.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 13:01:04 GMT
Even if you set aside his tv work (cormoran strik, musketeers) im surprised regular theatre goers on here dont know him from his theatre work Its also at the nuffield in Southampton next year I agree. Even if you don't watch television, there's more than enough theatre credits in his CV for a regular theatre goer to have seen him. And not exactly a couple of fringe things that only 4 people saw either. There's plenty of work at the Donmar, Hampstead, Almeida and Old Vic theatres as well as The Nash in there.
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Post by showgirl on Nov 16, 2017 14:20:11 GMT
Well he has obviously made no impression on me; perhaps he should try harder! Alternatively, maybe his was one of the many performances which have sent me to sleep?
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Post by martin1965 on Nov 16, 2017 14:44:42 GMT
I'm still wondering if I've ever seen this Tom Burke chap in anything (I don't watch tv and haven't seen The Deep Blue Sea" since the CFT version a year or two back); I must do some research. What not at all?
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Post by martin1965 on Nov 16, 2017 14:50:45 GMT
Not until next November but starring Tom Burke which should draw a crowd. Never heard of him. Kingston are very hopeful asking us to book a year in advance for this attraction, booking on the day will be possible. I will look at reviews for its run in Exeter before committing. Come on JB, you must have seen him on telly? Youve no excuse especially now you dont have to pay for your licence😌
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 14:59:50 GMT
For those not acquainted with Mr Tom Burke, allow me a moment to introduce him here And here What A Burke!
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Post by mallardo on Nov 16, 2017 15:11:31 GMT
Burke is best known to me as the leading man in the Neil LaBute plays Reasons To Be Pretty (Almeida) and Reasons To Be Happy (Hampstead) - he played the same character in both and was charismatic and altogether excellent.
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Post by Jan on Nov 16, 2017 15:17:56 GMT
Never heard of him. Kingston are very hopeful asking us to book a year in advance for this attraction, booking on the day will be possible. I will look at reviews for its run in Exeter before committing. Come on JB, you must have seen him on telly? Youve no excuse especially now you dont have to pay for your licence😌 I very rarely watch television and I never go to new plays and dislike Rattigan - given that I don’t know how could ever have seen him. However, I HAVE seen Don Carlos in the original German. So, you win some and you lose some.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 15:28:44 GMT
I very rarely watch television and I never go to new plays and dislike Rattigan Do you really never go to see new plays? When does a new play stop being a new play for you to see it? Does it have to be revived a certain number of times or have to have run for a period of time or do you never see plays written after a particular year?
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Post by Baemax on Nov 16, 2017 15:41:48 GMT
Design for Living at the Old Vic? The Doctor's Dilemma at the National? Do these still count as new to you even though they're not Rattigan?
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Post by Jan on Nov 17, 2017 14:11:45 GMT
I very rarely watch television and I never go to new plays and dislike Rattigan Do you really never go to see new plays? When does a new play stop being a new play for you to see it? Does it have to be revived a certain number of times or have to have run for a period of time or do you never see plays written after a particular year? Yep. Never go. Went a lot in the 80s but good ones were so few and far between I gave up. I think the last new play I saw was more than 20 years ago. Occasionally I’ll go to a revival of Pinter or Shaffer or something like that, I don’t have a firm rule. Despite that I’m still a “regular” theatregoer, not as much as you maybe but I can easily see 30-50 productions per year.
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Post by altamont on Sept 11, 2018 17:38:13 GMT
Full cast -
Gadi Roll directs renowned actor Tom Burke (The Musketeers, The Deep Blue Sea, The Doctor's Dilemma) as Rodrigo, Marquis of Posa, Alexandra Dowling as Eboli, Darrell D'Silva (X, The Lying Kind, Dunsinane) as Philip, Kelly Gough (Game of Thrones, A Street Car Named Desire) as Elizabeth, Jason Morell as Domingo, Vinta Morgan as Alba, Samuel Valentine (King Lear BBC/Amazon, The Stepmother) as Don Carlos, Stephen Ventura as Lerma, and Flip Webster as Duchess. Alexander Allin, Dan Ball, Guy Dennys and Euan Shanahan complete the ensemble.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 11, 2018 19:08:48 GMT
He’s also seen in my local Sainsbury’s absolutely constantly, if that’s any help.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 12, 2018 13:28:27 GMT
I mean as a customer!
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Post by Sotongal on Sept 12, 2018 13:28:59 GMT
Tweet pic from NSTheatres, Southampton.
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Post by nash16 on Sept 12, 2018 14:25:56 GMT
Love that he and his gf Alexandra are getting to be onstage together.
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Post by altamont on Oct 13, 2018 22:47:27 GMT
I'm afraid I can't recommend this - a first for us this evening, leaving at the interval. It was only the third preview at the Northcott in Exeter, but I struggle to see how the issues we had can be improved.
I recall really enjoying the Derek Jacobi/Richard Coyle production in 2005, but this is very strange - the cast predominantly declaim their lines at each other, at great speed, and quite a high volume, so subtlety in the text is lost. Also problems understanding what they were actually saying - and we were in the front row.
No set to speak of, just lights - lots of lights, with the characters facing each other across a vast and echoing stage, with their profiles to us most of the time. Tom Burke was the only actor who seemed to bring much colour to his role.
I'm really disapppointed we reacted in this way - maybe it improved in the second half, but we'd really had enough by the interval.
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Post by joem on Oct 15, 2018 21:19:02 GMT
I vaguely remember the Derek Jacobi production.
Who is Tom Burke might well prove to be a case for Sherlock Holmes. Clue: maybe they should ask his dad?
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Post by Jan on Oct 17, 2018 17:26:29 GMT
The Times didn’t like this;
“At once bombastic and punishingly dull, this is weirdly mechanical and the tone rarely deviates from an onslaught of spittle-flecked shouting”
1*
Always a risk with Schiller. I’ve seen this play in the original German. Imagine that.
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Post by peelee on Oct 22, 2018 19:25:22 GMT
Those here who remember that very good BBC TV series State of Play, about a British newspaper and conflict with crooked senior politicians that featured Bill Nighy as a charismatic newspaper editor with staff that included John Simm and Kelly Macdonald, may remember that then newish TV actor Tom Burke played a fact-digger who quietly got on with it. It was compelling TV at the time.
There was a Hollywood remake that put it all into one USA-based feature film, and starred Ben Affleck, Helen Mirren and Russell Crowe, but it was nowhere near as good.
I've never seen Don Carlos, by the Schiller I'd never heard of until hot ticket Mary Stuart in the West End with Harriet Walter and Janet McTeer, but on the strength of that play I'd like to see this play.
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Post by Sotongal on Nov 6, 2018 20:12:05 GMT
The Times didn’t like this; “At once bombastic and punishingly dull, this is weirdly mechanical and the tone rarely deviates from an onslaught of spittle-flecked shouting” 1* Always a risk with Schiller. I’ve seen this play in the original German. Imagine that. You have my admiration for watching the play in the original German! We saw Don Carlos in Southampton and also went to a Q and A with Tom Burke there. He and presumably the company had only seen the 1* review and appeared mortified by it, and so hadn't read the other reviews and so didn't seem aware the other reviews were 3* (since then a 4* also). They'd obviously had a terrible time in Exeter, for a number of reasons, though Southampton NST had managed to help them sort out the sound,etc, problems. The set is basically the black rear and side walls of the theatre, with a bank of lights on the rear wall. On stage are tables, chairs and moveable lights, which are moved about to emphasise characters or conversations ( and possibly the claustrophobia of Court). The costumes are black, with just a flash of red lining on the Kings jacket, echoed by a red carpet at one point.( Apparently, director Gadi Roll usually wears black. ) The music however, though not very noticeable, does not seem to do anything for the production. Tom plays the enigmatic visionary the Marquis de Posa and the prince, Don Carlos, is played by Sam Valentine. It's a mammoth 3+ hours long, with a massive amount of dialogue ( even after dumping 60 pages of script) and almost Shakespearean - although it's in modern English, you have to spend the first five/ten minutes tuning your ears into the dialogue like you do with Shakespeare ( and Don Carlos opens the production with some exposition, so concentrate!) Would sum it up as a good first stab at a very difficult play by a new production company, which needs encouragement ( as does any new theatrical company). We did wonder if Tom should try a different director for his next production, but this would seem unlikely as ARA is Tom and Gadi's company. Don Carlos is in the Rose Theatre, Kingston, for the next two weeks.
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Post by Backdrifter on Nov 7, 2018 17:44:54 GMT
Those here who remember that very good BBC TV series State of Play, about a British newspaper and conflict with crooked senior politicians that featured Bill Nighy as a charismatic newspaper editor with staff that included John Simm and Kelly Macdonald, may remember that then newish TV actor Tom Burke played a fact-digger who quietly got on with it. It was compelling TV at the time. There was a Hollywood remake that put it all into one USA-based feature film, and starred Ben Affleck, Helen Mirren and Russell Crowe, but it was nowhere near as good. I've never seen Don Carlos, by the Schiller I'd never heard of until hot ticket Mary Stuart in the West End with Harriet Walter and Janet McTeer, but on the strength of that play I'd like to see this play. I'm currently re-watching State of Play (the series) as I do most years and I never tire of it, it's one of the best TV dramas there's ever been. And just the one series, 6 episodes, job done. Great stuff. However, a slight correction - Burke played Sid the transcriber they used when they were secretly taping meetings. He's involved in a couple of darkly amusing scenes. He looked about 18 at the time! I couldn't believe when he was cast as Cormoran Strike, having read the novels and imagining someone else entirely, but I liked him in the role. I must have seen him on stage given what others have listed above, but can't remember him. The 04/05 Crucible production of Don Carlos that transferred to the Gielgud was superb. Jacobi was excellent as the King and it was probably the last role I saw him in that I fully enjoyed. Richard Coyle was brilliant in the lead role. I really like him generally and would have loved him to have taken over as the Doctor from Tennant. Claire Price was the Queen. I haven't seen her on stage for a long time. Peter Eyre was memorable in a very brief but sinister role as the blind Cardinal Chief Inquisitor, hobbling around on two sticks, exuding menace. I had thoughts of seeing this at the Rose but am now not in the area anyway during its run but it seems I'm not missing much. I can't remember how much stage time Posa gets, I don't remember it as being that much, yet TB is all over the promo? That role was Elliot Cowan in the Crucible one. Have the Rose stopped using pics from the Dench production yet? Does it get better numbers these days? As Jan brock said, usually in my experience there's seats going begging. Until last year it was my most local theatre but I rarely went there, the programme just never enticed me very much. I also always thought the unvarying Elizabethan configuration was a big mistake.
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