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Post by The Matthew on Oct 6, 2017 13:21:19 GMT
I'll leave it for the Moderators to decide Personally I have a soft spot for Drury Lane and I love technical details, but there might be copyright issues with reposting images so it's probably best to link to the source site.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 13:30:09 GMT
I'll leave it for the Moderators to decide Personally I have a soft spot for Drury Lane and I love technical details, but there might be copyright issues with reposting images so it's probably best to link to the source site. Fair point. All the material is in the public domain and was openly available to view at public consultation but best to err on the side of caution.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 6, 2017 15:25:32 GMT
I'll leave it for the Moderators to decide, but personally, @remark , I'd love it if there were more images posted somewhere. I'm sure I'm not alone. As much as I like a sensitive and well-designed theatre refurbishment, I feel a little sorry for @theatremoney.com. He/it will have to discard 40 years of theatregoing knowledge! Might be worth a Theatre Royal Drury Lane thread popping up in General Chat, as its not about a musical specifically. If it does, i'll quite happily fill it with images from the planning applications. Edit: Infact I might summarise the planning application in a new thread with images for people to save them going through the 1000's of pages of documents. Done
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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 6, 2017 18:03:30 GMT
Nah, it's great fun exploring a new layout. Happened many times and I love it . I'm now having visions of you swinging round Drury Lane, hanging off the new circle by your tail, etc.!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 18:48:39 GMT
Nah, it's great fun exploring a new layout. Happened many times and I love it . I'm now having visions of you swinging round Drury Lane, hanging off the new circle by your tail, etc.! That's exactly how he does it and nothing will tell me otherwise
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Post by Oleanna on Oct 7, 2017 1:41:56 GMT
Current Vs Proposed. Stalls definitely looks intersting... not sure if legroom is gained or lost. Is anybody else concerned by the proposed modifications to the boxes? I find the original 3/2/3 design to be iconic and visually striking and remarkable. I think that the proposed redesigned version will distill this effect, and also potentially not be in keeping with the aesthetic of the rest of the auditorium. The idea of those slips for example, would work in many other theatres, but in this grand old lady, it seems out of place.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 2:08:26 GMT
Current Vs Proposed. Stalls definitely looks intersting... not sure if legroom is gained or lost. Is anybody else concerned by the proposed modifications to the boxes? I find the original 3/2/3 design to be iconic and visually striking and remarkable. I think that the proposed redesigned version will distill this effect, and also potentially not be in keeping with the aesthetic of the rest of the auditorium. The idea of those slips for example, would work in many other theatres, but in this grand old lady, it seems out of place. I was thinking the same thing. Whenever I see Drury Lane on TV I can recognise it in a heartbeat just by looking at the boxes (quite similar to the Birmingham Hippodrome's), so it will be a shame to see it reconfigured quite drastically IMO. And what is going on with the column closest to the stage isn't exactly easy on the eye so it would definitely need the show designers to come up with something extravagant to mask it (much like what happened with the Belgrade in Coventry. It looks great during pantomime when masked by the set, but just an empty black void either side of the pros arch during the rest of the year). But beside the box configuration, I think it looks like it will be a great thing for Drury Lane. Hopefully getting rid of 200 seats will help it in someway sell easier (although I have no idea how 42nd Street is doing right now). Can't say I'm too excited about Frozen being the first show in post-refurbishment.
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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 7, 2017 11:59:20 GMT
I'm not denying it - how else do I get to report on ALL angles? Also, without the trusty tail-vault, it's a lot of stairs moving between levels. Being able to fire oneself from the dress circle front lighting rail directly to the rear balcony saves a long climb, I can tell you. Don't you stop to check out the upper circle though?
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Post by steve10086 on Oct 8, 2017 12:49:20 GMT
Must say I think it’s shame the amazing boxes are being pretty much destroyed. Have always admired them when in the theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 13:30:09 GMT
Its interesting, the justification for a lot of the changes to the foyer (and other areas of the theatre) are to 'bring it back in line with the original Wyatt structure', but yet the destruction of the iconic TRDL boxes does the opposite.
I can see both sides of the argument. The first stack closest to stage only get used for tech elements now really and by removing them make the stage more accessible for bigger proscenium sets (which are a fairly staple matter of musical theatre these days) they wont be affecting capacity in any detrimental way. I conversely feel that the cluster of 7 boxes surrounding the royal box is really iconic and would be a great loss to the theatres atmosphere and heritage.
There are currently no formal objections to any of the changes to the interior.
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Post by Jon on Oct 8, 2017 16:41:43 GMT
I do think that theatres have to adapt with the times to remain competitive. They are wonderful buildings but let not deny that some of them have their faults.
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 9, 2017 13:57:46 GMT
To a large extent, planning, especially on listed buildings, is a game between the applicant and the planners. The applicant asks for far more than they really want, then, over the weeks and months, they 'negotiate' with the planners to arrive at the scheme they really wanted in the first place.
Both sides know the rules and everyone ends the process satisfied.
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Post by Phantom of London on Oct 12, 2017 22:26:59 GMT
Looks like the Lord has been converted and this love of architecture that he is now so happy to throw money at it.
However the Gents in the Stalls, has the cheapest floor covering, the cheapest white tiles, the cheapest white bathroom ceramics, the cheapest hand drier from the RS Cataloque, so where does this Damascus moment come from?
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 13, 2017 12:20:34 GMT
I think most women would happily choose number over finish.
Incidentally, as I read it, in the redeveloped Theatre Royal, the only toilets in the stalls will be two for disabled use. Everyone else, male or female, will have to make their way downstairs to the basement, or upstairs to the royal circle.
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 13, 2017 13:39:10 GMT
Then, unless I'm mistaken, which is entirely possible, there will be chaos!
I'll look for myself next Wedneday, but where do the stairs off from the Rotunda currenly lead too?
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 13, 2017 13:59:44 GMT
Where the bar currently is, which I assumed from the plans was downstairs, is where the new toilets will be. Glad we got to the 'bottom' of it.
I'll get me coat!!!
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 14, 2017 12:26:02 GMT
At the risk of becoming a crushing bore, in the interests of research I've been poring over toilets all morning. Much better than pouring over toilets!
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Post by Tibidabo on Oct 14, 2017 12:27:36 GMT
At the risk of becoming a crushing bore, in the interests of research I've been poring over toilets all morning. Much better than pouring over toilets! And definitely better than pawing over toilets......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 12:58:43 GMT
At the risk of becoming a crushing bore, in the interests of research I've been poring over toilets all morning. Much better than pouring over toilets! Careful. Remember what happened to George Michael...
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 14, 2017 13:07:14 GMT
You will disappointed to learn, Tibidabo, that the new ladies toilets, down in the basement, will have just 18 cubicles. Yes, just 18 cubicles for the hundreds of women 'sitting' in the stalls.
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Post by Tibidabo on Oct 14, 2017 14:45:29 GMT
just 18 cubicles. Yes, just 18 cubicles for the hundreds of women 'sitting' in the stalls. How come your-in the know TallPaul?
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Post by The Matthew on Oct 14, 2017 15:05:41 GMT
At least they (probably) won't be those dreadful steel bowls with two strips of wood screwed to the top. "Quiet, comfortable, hygienic, convenient, welcoming, easy to clean, pleasant to use. Our new design is none of these. We've aimed to make our toilets a worse choice than voiding in your underpants and by God I think we're pretty much there."
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 16, 2017 12:47:41 GMT
just 18 cubicles. Yes, just 18 cubicles for the hundreds of women 'sitting' in the stalls. How come your-in the know TallPaul ? Cos I can read, and have no life!!! (I must compliment you on the gag.) When it comes to lavatory related facts, I'm your man.
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Post by Tibidabo on Oct 16, 2017 12:59:14 GMT
When it comes to lavatory related facts, I'm your man.I knew it! You are, in fact, that great lyricist Georgious Kyriacos Panayiotou and I claim my £5!
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 16, 2017 13:41:44 GMT
Rumbled, again, baby.
I'm all over Channel 4 tonight.
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 20, 2017 13:24:50 GMT
I find it's always best to take statements made in planning applications with a pinch of state, but RUT claim that one of the reasons Aladdin is playing at the Prince Edward Theatre is because Disney looked at Drury Lane and decided that, despite the larger seating capacity, the stage house was too decrepit and ancient.
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Post by TallPaul on Dec 14, 2017 14:56:55 GMT
I was reading the Evening Standard on the train last night. It reported that Westminster councillors met on Tuesday night and approved the redevelopment plans for TRDH.
The formal part of the planning process has only taken three months - bish bash boss! As the boundary of Westminster and Camden runs straight down the middle of West Street, Cam Mack must wish the Ambassadors was 20 metres to the west.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 9:50:11 GMT
Thinking about this recently. I really feel there should be some sort of documenting of this process. Ala Grand Designs, but this could make a 4/6 part series in itself. I can imagine 'behind the scenes' there's bound to be countless dramas and incidents that make some interesting television. It would be an incredible opportunity missed not to capture the before, during and after states.
Alternatively a book like the recently published 'London Theatres' would be amazing.
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Post by zak97 on Jan 7, 2019 15:47:22 GMT
According to the WoS article it will be possible to have shows set in the round post rennivstion!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 15:52:23 GMT
Stalls seats are now all removed from the venue.
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