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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 11:47:54 GMT
I hate to be "that person" but I wasn't all that impressed with the movie or the music. The plot was uneven and ropey and the subplot with Jenny Lind cringeworthy bad. And why did they hire someone who can't sing and had to be dubbed for the part instead of some proper musical performer who had knocked that song out of the park? The real opportunity, to give us some of the “freaks” back stories, was overlooked. That woman with the white hair was at the front in almost every scene and we didn’t even find out her name, she never spoke. Also General Tom Thumb, looked like a kid with a deep voice dubbed on. 100% agree I'd much rather have heard about those characters than Barnum's fairly dull family...but I got told off for saying something similar over on the Follies thread so HOW VERY DARE YOU BURLY THAT IS NOT THE FILM AUTHOR IS GOD etc etc
*please see my earlier post today on sarcasm, before anyone gets their arse in hand
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:04:32 GMT
Pasek and Paul recieve their third Oscar nomination for "This is Me".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 18:45:21 GMT
The soundtrack to this has been nicely keeping me company all day. Though I also can't get 'The Greatest Show' out of my head.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 19:39:58 GMT
It's so exciting to see Keale Seattle now in the Top 10 (at #8) as of today! Yes for the Broadway realness!
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Post by groupbooker on Jan 31, 2018 23:47:17 GMT
Broadway World - 20th Century Fox looking at a "possible" Broadway show! I just felt first time I saw Frozen "that's going to be a musical" the way it was written and same goes for this now - could well be? Have LED screens behind for bigger circus scenes? Who knows.
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Post by The Lost on Jan 31, 2018 23:52:30 GMT
I've read a couple of articles recently that have said that this movie has broken a number of records, in that despite having been playing for several weeks, the weekly gross doesn't seem to be decreasing. I think I actually heard that it took more money in its SIXTH weekend than it did in its first and although hasn't made anywhere near as much as them, has that Titanic/Avatar appeal as people are going to see it just as much as the weeks go by, instead of there being a consistent reduction in takings week on week.
My question of course is, why? Why is this staggeringly mediocre piece of historical inaccuracy and shallowness doing so well? The most accurate adjective I can think to describe this film is "average". Its songs all make the same vapid point about self-identity and breaking free that we've seen done to death in every musical franchise since the dawn of time, its plot is neither adventurous nor remotely accurate for what's meant to be a biopic of P.T Barnum's life. I honestly don't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 9:04:07 GMT
Broadway World - 20th Century Fox looking at a "possible" Broadway show! I just felt first time I saw Frozen "that's going to be a musical" the way it was written and same goes for this now - could well be? Have LED screens behind for bigger circus scenes? Who knows. Urgh no. With the exception of the Phantom 25th at the Royal Albert Hall, I think the use of LED Screens as set devices are a real cop out. The recent tour of elf, for example, used a massive video wall for most of the setand resulted in a really two dimensional, flat effect. Phantom worked as an exception because not only were they really restricted on depth and backstage space, but it took a very intelligent approach breaking them up as individual pieces, layered with projection. The size of the entire image filling almost floor to ceiling of the Royal Albert Hall just emphasised the spectacle. Using flat walls of video as a backdrop is ugly, in my mind. Slight diversion from the original point in case. I think TGS was definitely written with a transfer to stage in mind and its probably a race now to see which lands first, Showman or La La Land. Case in point:
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Post by kathryn on Feb 1, 2018 9:13:26 GMT
My question of course is, why? Why is this staggeringly mediocre piece of historical inaccuracy and shallowness doing so well? The most accurate adjective I can think to describe this film is "average". Its songs all make the same vapid point about self-identity and breaking free that we've seen done to death in every musical franchise since the dawn of time, its plot is neither adventurous nor remotely accurate for what's meant to be a biopic of P.T Barnum's life. I honestly don't get it. People pay for their cinema tickets before they see the film! I'm sure it's not very good, but it does look like a fun trip to the cinema, not too demanding, not depressing, at a time when cinemas are swamped with awards-bait dramas about Serious Issues. And it's January, after all, so lots of people want cheering up. They really should be seeing Paddington 2 instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 9:53:27 GMT
My question of course is, why? Why is this staggeringly mediocre piece of historical inaccuracy and shallowness doing so well? The most accurate adjective I can think to describe this film is "average". Its songs all make the same vapid point about self-identity and breaking free that we've seen done to death in every musical franchise since the dawn of time, its plot is neither adventurous nor remotely accurate for what's meant to be a biopic of P.T Barnum's life. I honestly don't get it. People pay for their cinema tickets before they see the film! I'm sure it's not very good, but it does look like a fun trip to the cinema, not too demanding, not depressing, at a time when cinemas are swamped with awards-bait dramas about Serious Issues. And it's January, after all, so lots of people want cheering up. They really should be seeing Paddington 2 instead. Exactly! Funny enough I haven't seen the film before I um...see the film? And having seen Paddington 2 (and it departed our cinemas) And honestly, in the depths of January I'd still have watched the admittedly deep as a puddle, but actually fun enough to pass a couple of hours TGS than sit through 3 hours of Oscar Bait 'issue cinema' (there's a time and place for that but a grey Friday in January for me is not it). Same with theatre while we're at it. I have no earthly desire to see Mama Mia in a theatre, but I fully respect people who when looking for a fun night out want to see that rather than The Birthday Party
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Post by viserys on Feb 1, 2018 9:57:48 GMT
Slight diversion from the original point in case. I think TGS was definitely written with a transfer to stage in mind and its probably a race now to see which lands first, Showman or La La Land. I honestly think that these things are ALWAYS written with a transfer to stage in mind these days, whether it's Disney's animated movies or this new slew of movie musicals with "real people". The Mamma Mia Sequel will turn up on stage sooner or later too, I'm sure. As for WHY this is so successful - I felt it was average at most myself, but I would agree with Kathryn that people are looking for something cheerful and uplifting in these glum winter days when the real world out there is increasingly depressing. I would also assume that the average cinema-goer isn't as experienced in the done-to-death theatrical tropes of "self-identity and breaking-free" as we are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 10:07:31 GMT
Slight diversion from the original point in case. I think TGS was definitely written with a transfer to stage in mind and its probably a race now to see which lands first, Showman or La La Land. I honestly think that these things are ALWAYS written with a transfer to stage in mind these days, whether it's Disney's animated movies or this new slew of movie musicals with "real people". The Mamma Mia Sequel will turn up on stage sooner or later too, I'm sure. As for WHY this is so successful - I felt it was average at most myself, but I would agree with Kathryn that people are looking for something cheerful and uplifting in these glum winter days when the real world out there is increasingly depressing. I would also assume that the average cinema-goer isn't as experienced in the done-to-death theatrical tropes of "self-identity and breaking-free" as we are. You know what the 'not everyone is as experienced' reminds me of what my Mum said about it 'If we didn't watch as many musicals we'd think it was brilliant' which about sums it up! Every 'casual' musicals fan I know thinks it's the best thing since ....well probably Mama Mia
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Post by kathryn on Feb 1, 2018 10:13:20 GMT
Which just goes to show that Hollywood is missing a trick by not making more movie-musicals. Clearly there’s an audience for them!
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Post by MoreLife on Feb 1, 2018 10:28:34 GMT
[/quote] 100% agree I'd much rather have heard about those characters than Barnum's fairly dull family...but I got told off for saying something similar over on the Follies thread so HOW VERY DARE YOU BURLY THAT IS NOT THE FILM AUTHOR IS GOD etc etc
*please see my earlier post today on sarcasm, before anyone gets their arse in hand
[/quote] Are you being disrespectful of INFALLIBLE AUTHORS again, Emily? Or even DIRECTORS or PRODUCERS, huh? Ah, the chutzpah...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 10:29:34 GMT
100% agree I'd much rather have heard about those characters than Barnum's fairly dull family...but I got told off for saying something similar over on the Follies thread so HOW VERY DARE YOU BURLY THAT IS NOT THE FILM AUTHOR IS GOD etc etc
*please see my earlier post today on sarcasm, before anyone gets their arse in hand
[/quote] Are you being disrespectful of INFALLIBLE AUTHORS again, Emily? Or even DIRECTORS or PRODUCERS, huh? Ah, the chutzpah... [/quote] hahaha the UTTER BALLS on me I know...HOW VERY DARE I
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Post by The Lost on Feb 1, 2018 11:27:48 GMT
People pay for their cinema tickets before they see the film! A huge amount of this film's success is repeat viewings. There isn't an infinite market of first timers who conveniently spread themselves relatively equally over each week, there are a lot of people that have gone 5, 10 times to see this, if you search The Greatest Showman on Twitter, about half of the tweets are "saw this for the third time yesterday" or "my 5th time today and I dragged all my family along with me". Had people only been seeing this once, the grosses would have decreased substantially week on week.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 1, 2018 12:02:55 GMT
Nah, it's not repeat viewers themselves producing box office. It never is - they're always a noisy minority, there's simply not enough of them to be significantly changing the numbers. A Twitter search will find many repeat viewers for the vast majority of popular films, not just this one. There's always a small number of people who passionately love a film.
Though of course the word of mouth from repeat viewers has an impact - telling their friends to see it, and taking friends and family (who may not enjoy it as much as the repeat viewer) for the first time. But with movie box office large numbers always mean that the vast majority of people saw it once, and a comparatively tiny minority saw it lots of times.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 4, 2018 18:15:45 GMT
Finally watched this today. Cinema very busy with lots of teens and families in.
Thought it was fine - diverting enough for a couple of hours. I’m sure there was a more interesting story in there though, about the actual circus performers.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 5, 2018 14:58:45 GMT
Vue are doing a singalonga version with the lyrics up on screen karaoke style.
Fully authorised bad behaviour. It will end in tears.
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Post by mistressjojo on Feb 10, 2018 8:08:07 GMT
Vue are doing a singalonga version with the lyrics up on screen karaoke style. Fully authorised bad behaviour. It will end in tears. I'm going to a singalonga show of this in Sydney in a fortnight. It's a whole evening event in a proper old theatre with 'pre-show activities'. I'm hoping this means Hugh Jackman wandering around in his ringmaster outfit.
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Post by Steve on Feb 27, 2018 17:21:22 GMT
This is an absolute phenomenon at the UK Box Office. It opened at number 3 at the end of December, it has been in the top 5 for 9 weeks straight, it was number 2 this last weekend, behind only "Black Panther." It resists gravity. It has made approximately £2 million every single weekend. More generally, three of the all time top 5 grossing live action musicals (not counting inflation, of course lol) have been released in the last year or so: Beauty and the Beast, La La Land and this. So, it really feels like a good time for movie musicals at the minute. Hope the trend sustains.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 27, 2018 18:49:56 GMT
Incredible isn’t it? While I was buying tickets for something else the other night there was a group of five teenage lads at the next machine buying tickets for this. My friends 80 year old Mum liked it too. It seems to completely defy demographics.
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Post by westendcub on Feb 27, 2018 18:53:32 GMT
I forgot to post that I went to the sing-a-long on Satdatmy afternoon (4th time seeing this film).
I went solo & really enjoyed it, I picked the afternoon showing at the O2 has I figured it would be attended but half full (Expect busier in the evening showing).
No real bad behaviour- people were singing along (including me) & once in a while I noticed some hands waving in the air!
It was a mixed audience, parents with kids, couples or two friends & us solo pottered around! I did wonder if I would have gotten self conscious but I didn’t (mind ‘Never Enough’ & ‘Tightrope’ are tricky!!).
My friend has booked us to go see at Regents Park aioen Air in September!!
Love the film!!
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Post by ctas on Feb 27, 2018 23:23:31 GMT
Vue are doing a singalonga version with the lyrics up on screen karaoke style. Fully authorised bad behaviour. It will end in tears. I'm going to a singalonga show of this in Sydney in a fortnight. It's a whole evening event in a proper old theatre with 'pre-show activities'. I'm hoping this means Hugh Jackman wandering around in his ringmaster outfit. I went to the London one (first of the singalongs) and we got free t shirts, the director popped in to introduce the film and there was a costume contest where an adorable small girl in ringmaster get-up won Hugh Jackman’s top hat from the film. I’d only seen it once previously so having the words on screen was a blessing, it was a really fun event though! I think I enjoyed the film more in that setting.
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Post by mistressjojo on Feb 28, 2018 0:10:05 GMT
I'm going to a singalonga show of this in Sydney in a fortnight. It's a whole evening event in a proper old theatre with 'pre-show activities'. I'm hoping this means Hugh Jackman wandering around in his ringmaster outfit. I went to the London one (first of the singalongs) and we got free t shirts, the director popped in to introduce the film and there was a costume contest where an adorable small girl in ringmaster get-up won Hugh Jackman’s top hat from the film. I’d only seen it once previously so having the words on screen was a blessing, it was a really fun event though! I think I enjoyed the film more in that setting. Wow, we didn't get any freebies! There was a local actor being MC who gave away some cinema passes , and a few performers (gymnasts,a strongman and a guy on stilts) in the foyer. We had short pre-recorded videos from Hugh & Keala introducing the film. It was a fun night and the audience got right into things, most notably booing poor Jenny Lind!
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Post by showgirl on Feb 28, 2018 5:21:18 GMT
I didn't fancy this at all when it was released, though people where I volunteer (who rarely share my taste in films and don't go to the theatre except for an annual treat) raved about it and were talking of going back. However, I was a bit desperate for something to see before a matinee recently, so I went to the Senior Screen performance at a Picture House. Normally these are very popular, especially at that particular site (Gate, Notting Hill), but most unusually, this one was sparsely attended and I was probably the sole senior. However, the rest of the audience consisted mainly of teenagers, so it seems correct that they also like this. Mind you, I don't know why they weren't at school. As for the film, it was what I expected (and Hugh Jackman leaping around was heave-making), but I did like the music, which I found very catchy.
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Post by Elle on Mar 1, 2018 23:58:24 GMT
I just saw this tonight and I'm loving the soundtrack, very entertaining movie! I had expected it to be longer though, it could have easily gone on for another 30 minutes. I think the messages of the movie resonate with many people, acceptance and belonging are universal themes. There's something special about this movie, it has heart, which is why I think it appeals to such a large demographic. They already said it in the movie, it doesn't matter if it's fake if the joy is real. This is me. 😭
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 19:04:02 GMT
I'm still stunned by the success of the soundtrack in the UK! Just looked at the midweek charts, and This is Me is still in the Top 10, whilst Never Enough and A Million Dreams have entered the Top 30, meaning if they holds there until Friday, five of the eleven songs from the soundtrack have been in the Top 30 (the other two being Rewrite the Stars and The Greatest Show), which is crazy considering the film has been out as long as it has!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 20:48:36 GMT
I'm still stunned by the success of the soundtrack in the UK! Just looked at the midweek charts, and This is Me is still in the Top 10, whilst Never Enough and A Million Dreams have entered the Top 30, meaning if they holds there until Friday, five of the eleven songs from the soundtrack have been in the Top 30 (the other two being Rewrite the Stars and The Greatest Show), which is crazy considering the film has been out as long as it has! Same! I'm quite often in the gym while one of the music channels has a chart update on and it's so odd seeing a musical film up there! it's nice, but odd! And kids are NUTS for this thing, it's almost Let it Go levels!
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Post by justfran on Mar 12, 2018 22:13:13 GMT
Apparently UK cinema sales of this were up 26% this weekend and it’s now taken more than £37 million! Great to see it still doing so well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 23:08:37 GMT
And to top off the crazy, the soundrack has spent nine week at number one, it is the only number one in 2018 so far!
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